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Bellavita 12-12-2023 09:05 AM

Its called Urban Sprawl


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Originally Posted by SaveTownofLadyLake (Post 2281302)
The Town has approved 8,500 new residential communities that ARE NOT 55+. There are several properties that are asking Town for re-zoning and annexation to allow another potential 10,000 more just in the immediate area of Griffin Ave and also 466 area.

Tell your Ward Commissioners to VOTE NO on these requests. We have enough traffic and other inconveniences such as not being able to get timely medical appointments. Please tell Town and Commission NO MORE DENSITY


SaveTownofLadyLake 12-12-2023 09:12 AM

I'm not against someone developing their property, I do have a problem with how it's developed. You can't put a size 10 foot in a size 6 shoe and expect to walk without problems.

Lake County does not allow for this type of development for what it is, so the idea is to rezone and annex the land to circumvent the system to do it anyway...that is the issue.

3, 5, 10 acre lots with reasonable modest homes yes, I'll be for that all day long, 800 manufactured homes and 34 other buildings to go with it, I'm not so sure.

This is happening all around the Town of Lady Lake. Just look at the Zoning WEB Site and see the number of requests for rezoning and annexations being requested all of them for changing agricultural land over to medium density housing. They are putting 100 homes on five acre lots thats where the other 10,000 people are going right in the 466 area.

Walmart is trying to squeeze in also and are taking down large mature canopy oak trees that are near 200 years old. Do we really need another Walmart?, there are already 3 in a five mile radius.

Arctic Fox 12-12-2023 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by SaveTownofLadyLake (Post 2281687)
You can joke about this all you want, the homes are low, middle income mobile homes price point high of 170k.

So, rather like those that kick-started The Villages.

We'd better raze the Historic section while we're at it, as we don't want cheap housing in "our" neighborhood.

Vermilion Villager 12-12-2023 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by SaveTownofLadyLake (Post 2281646)
Yes, I agree to your statement that the owner of a property has rights, my rights are being impacted. I bought and invested my home in a rural setting now someone is coming in and pushing me out of my property.

If I came in and put a High School in your front yard without you having prior knowledge would you open your arms to it?

There are those who like and enjoy urban and those who like and enjoy rural. What right does someone have to come in and force urban on me without my permission.

Are you saying we can only vote on what others think we should have?

WOW....I guess now you know what the native Floridians or before them Native Americans thought. :shocked:

Bill14564 12-12-2023 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by SaveTownofLadyLake (Post 2281817)
I'm not against someone developing their property, I do have a problem with how it's developed. You can't put a size 10 foot in a size 6 shoe and expect to walk without problems.

Lake County does not allow for this type of development for what it is, so the idea is to rezone and annex the land to circumvent the system to do it anyway...that is the issue.

3, 5, 10 acre lots with reasonable modest homes yes, I'll be for that all day long, 800 manufactured homes and 34 other buildings to go with it, I'm not so sure.

This is happening all around the Town of Lady Lake. Just look at the Zoning WEB Site and see the number of requests for rezoning and annexations being requested all of them for changing agricultural land over to medium density housing. They are putting 100 homes on five acre lots thats where the other 10,000 people are going right in the 466 area.

Walmart is trying to squeeze in also and are taking down large mature canopy oak trees that are near 200 years old. Do we really need another Walmart?, there are already 3 in a five mile radius.

Maybe there is a terminology problem. They seem to be proposing six homes per acre or 30 homes on five acres, not 100 homes on five acre lots. Six homes per acre is the density of the Villages. 100 homes on five acres would need to be an apartment building.

I still don't see the additional 7,400 approved homes or the 10,000 proposed homes.

SaveTownofLadyLake 12-12-2023 11:33 AM

Exactly the point, the land use for density is being re-worded and changed to allow for more homes per acre depending on where the land is. Rezoning and annexing allows for them to set and or change the laws and rules on the books to make it happen.

Walmart for instance knew coming in they had shortfalls within the property, they then apply for variances to get what they need to keep moving forward. None of the residents pay any attention to these changes and they just keep happening.

That is why there is a specific need to get involved with the Town and Village Commissioners to stop approving these changes and this high density market will slow down or stop.

If there aren't resident's in the meetings to speak up then they believe all is good and that the residents are ok with it.

airdote22 12-12-2023 12:07 PM

Guest
 
Nice truthful article yesterday on line about mobile home parks. Purchasing a new home on rented property is not a good idea as rent will go up yearly @ 4 to 6 percent. Borrow $200,000 @ 8% = 1285 per mo. + $600. mo. rent starting @ goes up 5% yr. + taxes & services. Some years down the road a large corp. buys the park then doubles the rent. Its happening all over the country.

cjrjck 12-12-2023 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by SaveTownofLadyLake (Post 2281876)
Exactly the point, the land use for density is being re-worded and changed to allow for more homes per acre depending on where the land is. Rezoning and annexing allows for them to set and or change the laws and rules on the books to make it happen.

Walmart for instance knew coming in they had shortfalls within the property, they then apply for variances to get what they need to keep moving forward. None of the residents pay any attention to these changes and they just keep happening.

That is why there is a specific need to get involved with the Town and Village Commissioners to stop approving these changes and this high density market will slow down or stop.

If there aren't resident's in the meetings to speak up then they believe all is good and that the residents are ok with it.

Why not run for city office? There should be enough Villagers in Lady Lake to give you a solid boost.

Cliff Fr 12-12-2023 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by SaveTownofLadyLake (Post 2281302)
The Town has approved 8,500 new residential communities that ARE NOT 55+. There are several properties that are asking Town for re-zoning and annexation to allow another potential 10,000 more just in

Tell your Ward Commissioners to VOTE NO on these requests. We have enough traffic and other inconveniences such as not being able to get timely medical appointments. Please tell Town and Commission NO MORE DENSITY

8500 communities?? That can't be correct.

Topspinmo 12-12-2023 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by manaboutown (Post 2281624)
This is a free country. Owners of private property have rights. If zoning and such is ok they should be able to proceed. If nothing were ever built the few humans alive would still be living in caves.


Agree, some like to complain about growth when land was sold around them.

SaveTownofLadyLake 12-12-2023 05:55 PM

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shut the front door 12-12-2023 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by SaveTownofLadyLake (Post 2281817)
I'm not against someone developing their property, I do have a problem with how it's developed. You can't put a size 10 foot in a size 6 shoe and expect to walk without problems.

Lake County does not allow for this type of development for what it is, so the idea is to rezone and annex the land to circumvent the system to do it anyway...that is the issue.

3, 5, 10 acre lots with reasonable modest homes yes, I'll be for that all day long, 800 manufactured homes and 34 other buildings to go with it, I'm not so sure.

This is happening all around the Town of Lady Lake. Just look at the Zoning WEB Site and see the number of requests for rezoning and annexations being requested all of them for changing agricultural land over to medium density housing. They are putting 100 homes on five acre lots thats where the other 10,000 people are going right in the 466 area.

Walmart is trying to squeeze in also and are taking down large mature canopy oak trees that are near 200 years old. Do we really need another Walmart?, there are already 3 in a five mile radius.

You lose a little credibility with each post you make. Walmart was denied their request to take down trees.

Escape Artist 12-12-2023 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by SaveTownofLadyLake (Post 2281646)
Yes, I agree to your statement that the owner of a property has rights, my rights are being impacted. I bought and invested my home in a rural setting now someone is coming in and pushing me out of my property.

If I came in and put a High School in your front yard without you having prior knowledge would you open your arms to it?

There are those who like and enjoy urban and those who like and enjoy rural. What right does someone have to come in and force urban on me without my permission.

Are you saying we can only vote on what others think we should have?

It’s already too crowded. Some people like living amongst the hordes but I’m not one of them. Time to sell!

EastCoastDawg 12-12-2023 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by SaveTownofLadyLake (Post 2281589)
Forget about getting a doctors appointment in a reasonable amount of time. If the thought of the 8,500 young people coming in and partaking in your daily town square activities at your expense doesn't bother you then you can go about your day.

You seem to know a lot about these people, even though they aren't here yet - clogging up our town squares, monopolising doctors' appointments (odd, for young people), smoking...

Are you sure they're not your relatives? I hope you would tell us if you were just trying to use us to stop your cousins moving in to the area.

shaw8700@outlook.com 12-12-2023 09:58 PM

The problem you have is even if your post finds those in agreement with you, is the ones that write on forums like this aren’t likely to be the ones going down and standing up in front of the board. Just saying.

Topspinmo 12-12-2023 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by shut the front door (Post 2281986)
You lose a little credibility with each post you make. Walmart was denied their request to take down trees.


Just round one. :oops:

Normal 12-13-2023 02:26 AM

It’s Over
 
Ocala will approve this in a heartbeat. What’s the point?

SaveTownofLadyLake 12-13-2023 06:16 AM

I know a lot about this as I have been living in it and experiencing it. I recently went to get a medical appointment and waited three weeks for it, I need an MRI and can’t get it till end of February due to high volume patient load.

My 10 minute ride to the grocery store now takes 30 minutes at times. Trying to get a table to eat out is also next to impossible.

If no one spoke up about the trees on the Walmart plan they would have voted to remove them without question

Arctic Fox 12-13-2023 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by SaveTownofLadyLake (Post 2282030)
I know a lot about this as I have been living in it and experiencing it. I recently went to get a medical appointment and waited three weeks for it, I need an MRI and can’t get it till end of February due to high volume patient load. My 10 minute ride to the grocery store now takes 30 minutes at times. Trying to get a table to eat out is also next to impossible.

It sounds like the ship has already sailed in your area, and a few more thousand won't make much of a difference.

GizmoWhiskers 12-13-2023 03:13 PM

Bingo! Oops... lost the post... Bingo on "Urban Sprawl." Orlando is a perfect local example. Too much of a "good thing"...

EastCoastDawg 12-13-2023 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by GizmoWhiskers (Post 2282264)
Bingo! Oops... lost the post... Bingo on "Urban Sprawl." Orlando is a perfect local example. Too much of a "good thing"...

The population of Orlando is twenty times that of Lady Lake, so it'll take a lot of catching up...

...and I'm not sure Spanish Springs town square has quite the attraction of Disneyworld.

SaveTownofLadyLake 12-13-2023 05:37 PM

All of the surrounding communities, Mt. Dora, Travares, Leesburg, Wildwood all are having the same conversations regarding the mass developments and the impacts.

Crime is already up in the Town of Lady Lake and also throughout the Villages. It’s only going to get worse.

By placing a moratorium on building, rezoning agricultural lands and annexation this situation can be slowed down to where it can be better managed.

Mileage rates go up on property to maintain roads, infrastructures and to pay for emergency services not to mention the School Board taxes because more schools have also got to be facilitated.

This has dire impacts financially to all of us. I’m sure homeowners policies will also see some form of a hike also

Marathon Man 12-14-2023 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by SaveTownofLadyLake (Post 2281646)
Yes, I agree to your statement that the owner of a property has rights, my rights are being impacted. I bought and invested my home in a rural setting now someone is coming in and pushing me out of my property.

If I came in and put a High School in your front yard without you having prior knowledge would you open your arms to it?

There are those who like and enjoy urban and those who like and enjoy rural. What right does someone have to come in and force urban on me without my permission.

Are you saying we can only vote on what others think we should have?

So, this is what it is all about. I for one am not interested in assisting you in your attempts to keep the view outside you window unchanged. You should have bought more land.

Normal 12-14-2023 08:47 AM

You can move?
 
I get where you are coming from. Respectfully, if you don’t like what a landowner is doing, you can relocate? I wouldn’t expect otherwise. If the Marion County area was more Villages, complaints might give you an ear, but it is the world we live in.

EastCoastDawg 12-14-2023 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by SaveTownofLadyLake (Post 2281302)
The Town has approved 8,500 new residential communities that ARE NOT 55+. There are several properties that are asking Town for re-zoning and annexation to allow another potential 10,000 more just in the immediate area of Griffin Ave and also 466 area.Tell your Ward Commissioners to VOTE NO on these requests. We have enough traffic and other inconveniences such as not being able to get timely medical appointments. Please tell Town and Commission NO MORE DENSITY

Most people who go into politics, whether national or local, do so because they enjoy the power, not selflessly to help others and make a better community.

The bigger the operation, the more their power, so why would they turn down expansion - or listen to those wanting their community to stay small?

SaveTownofLadyLake 12-14-2023 09:57 AM

Why should I have to pack up and leave, I have a vested interest in where I live. If the United States Of America in which we live for freedom and liberty were to have run many, many years ago where would we be. We fight for our rights and freedoms here last time I checked.

If now we can't fight for what we believe in then what's the point.

manaboutown 12-14-2023 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by SaveTownofLadyLake (Post 2282451)
Why should I have to pack up and leave, I have a vested interest in where I live. If the United States Of America in which we live for freedom and liberty were to have run many, many years ago where would we be. We fight for our rights and freedoms here last time I checked.

If now we can't fight for what we believe in then what's the point.

Well, other property owners have rights, too, including the right to develop their properties, whether they adjoin yours or are nearby, whether you like it or not. It is their property, not yours. BTW, with development, the value of nearby properties usually increase to the owners' benefit.

nn0wheremann 12-14-2023 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by blueash (Post 2281367)
Wow, if each of these 8500 communities has 125 people that is a million new residents in Lady Lake. It will get crowded with a million new people. If only they were all OVER 55+, then at least it would still get quiet at 9 PM

Hey, the hoi polloi needs be someplace

Normal 12-14-2023 03:33 PM

Shouldn’t have to, can stay
 
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Originally Posted by SaveTownofLadyLake (Post 2282451)
Why should I have to pack up and leave, I have a vested interest in where I live. If the United States Of America in which we live for freedom and liberty were to have run many, many years ago where would we be. We fight for our rights and freedoms here last time I checked.

If now we can't fight for what we believe in then what's the point.

It was just a question. You don’t have to, you can stay. No one is making anyone move. Just…

Respect the landowner who owns 1300 acres who wants to do what they want on their own property.

It isn’t like there aren’t several mobile home courts around the Villages already anyway. Some are very nice. Just look at the super nice one Hammock Cove being built over ugly sod just off Griffin and Marion. The lake will make a nice view for them. Visit Yale lake to give you an idea of what is coming. The area is very nice!


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