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-   -   SECO switching to time of day billing (https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-general-discussion-73/seco-switching-time-day-billing-342049/)

crash 06-16-2023 06:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Toymeister (Post 2226415)
SECO services most of TV as the electric utility. They have plans to switch all customers from a .11 first 1,000 kWh, .13 above 1,000 kWh: to a three tier time of day pricing plan.

Super off peak (SOP) .06 per kWh
Off peak (OP) .09
Peak (P). .23

April-Oct
12-6am SOP
6-2pm OP
2-6pm P
6-12pm OP

Nov-Mar
12-6am SOP
6-9am P
9-12pm OP

The SECO rep that I spoke to didn't know when this will be put in place. But the rates have been established so it's clearly not too distant.
If those times are correct very little of my electricity will be in peak hours and I should get a cut in my electric bill.

In California they had a tier system and very little of your electricity would occur in the low tier I believe it was 95 kWh at 0.12 up to 0.39 for over a 1000 with 5 tiers.

jrref 06-16-2023 06:07 AM
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Originally Posted by villagetinker (Post 2226442)
Interesting since I do not believe the current meters or metering system would be able to support REAL TIME metering. To do what is being "reported" requires one way (possibly two way) communication to the utility, or meters with accurate TOD clocks and the ability to store all of this information for a monthly reading.
The other item to consider is if Duke and Florida Power actually have similar rates in place for SECO to buy power at the proposed levels to support the proposed rates. If have not seen any announcements from either of these utilities, or associated news article about the very significant changes to rates, ALL of which require approval from Florida government.
Just my humble opinion.
Right! Currently our meters can't report usage based on time of day.

msilagy 06-16-2023 06:18 AM
ComEd I Illinois has a sign up for notification of peak hours on very hot days. By reducing your electrical outlay during that time you earn $ if less than the year before. It happens maybe 2-3 times in the summer. I always earn $ that go against my next bill! Electricity is more expensive in my Florida home for sure. I pay less in Illinois.

bobnyce 06-16-2023 11:34 AM
Electric useage
 
My wife and I switched to a heatpump wster heater last October. It has saved us from 200 to 300 kwh per month. Bought it at Lowes -A O Smith. Had it installed bt Dunstan Plumbing. Cost about $2,400. Best decision ever. Never used electric elements to supplement at all.

Bilyclub 06-16-2023 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by msilagy (Post 2226915)
ComEd I Illinois has a sign up for notification of peak hours on very hot days. By reducing your electrical outlay during that time you earn $ if less than the year before. It happens maybe 2-3 times in the summer. I always earn $ that go against my next bill! Electricity is more expensive in my Florida home for sure. I pay less in Illinois.
You pay more for practically everything else up there.

Stu from NYC 06-16-2023 03:21 PM
We got our electric bill with news letter last night and while it mentions special pricing for electric cars no mention of time of day billing

Marsha11 06-16-2023 04:20 PM
I dont know why this is being done. I'm concerned with the hatred of utilities by government. Each and every large utility has brown outs for sure. The government won't build anything at all. Then the go broke so then they must raise prices. There is nothing to help the utility at all but govt.

Bogie Shooter 06-16-2023 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Marsha11 (Post 2227109)
I dont know why this is being done. I'm concerned with the hatred of utilities by government. Each and every large utility has brown outs for sure. The government won't build anything at all. Then the go broke so then they must raise prices. There is nothing to help the utility at all but govt.
Did you proofread this?

Keefelane66 06-17-2023 05:21 AM
We went true a smart meter conversion in Naples Florida Area with LCEC a cooperative similar to SECO.. TWACS Technology
This system will require the Cooperative to replace the existing electric meter with a new TWACS (Two-Way Automatic Communication System) digital meter. This project is designed to not only benefit customer-owners with convenience and cost attributes but to also increase the efficiency and safety of the Cooperative's employee team.
This technology will enable the Cooperative to have reliable two-way communication between our offices and your meter. The TWACS system uses existing power lines to transmit data to and from the home office. Eliminating the need for most meter readers.

vinricci 06-17-2023 05:58 AM
Received this email from SECO yesterday:
SECO has learned that there was an erroneous blog post claiming that we are mandating all members opt-in to a time-of-use rate and that is simply not true. I’m sorry for the misinformation.

We do have a TOU rate that you may be interested in since you charge your vehicle at night. Remember though, if you use your HVAC to cool/heat your home during peak hours the price per kWh is almost 23 cents. With summer temperatures, this may not be the time to make the switch.

Keefelane66 06-17-2023 06:54 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by vinricci (Post 2227183)
Received this email from SECO yesterday:
SECO has learned that there was an erroneous blog post claiming that we are mandating all members opt-in to a time-of-use rate and that is simply not true. I’m sorry for the misinformation.

We do have a TOU rate that you may be interested in since you charge your vehicle at night. Remember though, if you use your HVAC to cool/heat your home during peak hours the price per kWh is almost 23 cents. With summer temperatures, this may not be the time to make the switch.
I called SECO office Thursday and received the same info.

Toymeister 06-20-2023 09:55 AM
Received the following email from SECO to this question:

Is SECO intending to replace dumb meters with smart (AMI) meters in three to four years as announced by SECO's CEO at the 2022 annual meeting?

Answer: Thank you for your email. Regarding your inquiry, we are in the process of working on changing out the meters to AMI meters. It will take some time to get them all changed out, so I do not have a timeframe as to when your area will be changed out.



Bottom Line SECO will transition to smart meters as I have stated. And their public relations and communication in general are extremely poor

Bill14564 06-20-2023 10:02 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Toymeister (Post 2228213)
Received the following email from SECO to this question:

Is SECO intending to replace dumb meters with smart (AMI) meters in three to four years as announced by SECO's CEO at the 2022 annual meeting?

Answer: Thank you for your email. Regarding your inquiry, we are in the process of working on changing out the meters to AMI meters. It will take some time to get them all changed out, so I do not have a timeframe as to when your area will be changed out.



Bottom Line SECO will transition to smart meters as I have stated. And their public relations and communication in general are extremely poor
This was in place in MD at least five years ago if not 10 years ago. I was surprised to learn it wasn't already in place in Florida.

If I remember correctly (it's been a while), time-of-use metering saved me money on Maryland with no changes to my normal usage. That was when I was out of the house working all day - we'll have to see what happens now that I'm retired.

Keefelane66 06-20-2023 11:07 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Toymeister (Post 2228213)
Received the following email from SECO to this question:

Is SECO intending to replace dumb meters with smart (AMI) meters in three to four years as announced by SECO's CEO at the 2022 annual meeting?

Answer: Thank you for your email. Regarding your inquiry, we are in the process of working on changing out the meters to AMI meters. It will take some time to get them all changed out, so I do not have a timeframe as to when your area will be changed out.



Bottom Line SECO will transition to smart meters as I have stated. And their public relations and communication in general are extremely poor
AMI meters transmit data of usage eliminating the need for meter readers. It will not require all to go to time of day metering unless you elect this billing option.
As a side not our daughter has just installed solar on their home in Ct AMI meters installed on cloudy day with showers panels are making 30kwh during daylight on full sun days panels are producing 55kwh. Power consumption average is 20kwh for home per 24 hr day according to meter they are not on time of day metering.

Spartan86 06-28-2023 05:38 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by vinricci (Post 2227183)
Received this email from SECO yesterday:
SECO has learned that there was an erroneous blog post claiming that we are mandating all members opt-in to a time-of-use rate and that is simply not true. I’m sorry for the misinformation.

We do have a TOU rate that you may be interested in since you charge your vehicle at night. Remember though, if you use your HVAC to cool/heat your home during peak hours the price per kWh is almost 23 cents. With summer temperatures, this may not be the time to make the switch.
Perhaps obvious but….you either stay on flat rate or go to variable, to include $.23/kw peak? Thanks.


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