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angiefox10 09-10-2011 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Posh 08 (Post 392426)
Are there cameras at the gates or elsewhere? They sometimes deter but mostly show "who dun it". IMHO

We were told there were cameras by a sales agent and by an owner who said thats how they knew who busted the gate at 1:00 am in the morning coming in drunk.

tainsley 09-10-2011 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by angiefox10 (Post 392287)
When we went to TV in July and came on the gate we turned around too... Hubby mentioned to me about the "red button." Sooooo being the rebel I am I urged him to push it! Of curers he wouldn't, so I made him stop the car, I got out and pushed the button when the gate opened he drove through it and I then ran to the car giggling. I felt like Bonnie and Clyde! :a040:

Whew.... think anyone saw us????

That's funny. I also was stopped at a gate going over to Southern Trace area...digging in my purse for gate pass when the gentlemen behind me got out of his cart and pushed the button. I was so embarassed, said thanks and went on my way! :laugh:

BigLew 09-10-2011 12:44 PM

good point!
 
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Originally Posted by Trish Crocker (Post 392243)
I hope I never become so paranoid that I must have a gate into my neighborhood. I have lived in the city of Detroit and many of it's suburbs and have never felt the need to be 'gated'. If someone wants to get into an area, they will find a way, with or without gates. One advantage of the gates in TV is that it forces people to slow down, no whipping around the corner into the sub. Personally I like the gates in the villages, I think they are kind of cool....I just don't ever, ever want to have to depend upon gates or fences or guards for my safety. What would be next? Barbed wire? If that's the case, I might as well be living in a prison. Remember....There is nothing to fear but fear itself.

also, once through the gates, unless otherwise posted the max speed limit is 25mph, as noted in other threads. this was a request by the builder as it is not the 30mph norm on local roads. All were part of the plan to limit speeds and increase safety. The gates do take pictures of people entering which are available for review should any crime occur...:police:

asianthree 09-10-2011 01:06 PM

I am still getting over the shock that the gates cost 1.5 million.....we could get a really big indoor heated pool for everyone

angiefox10 09-10-2011 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by asianthree (Post 392587)
I am still getting over the shock that the gates cost 1.5 million.....we could get a really big indoor heated pool for everyone

WHAT??? NO indoor heated pool???? CRAP!!! That does it!!!! :cus:

Just kidding....

Schaumburger 09-10-2011 01:20 PM

Does your gate pass work in all gates?
 
Probably a dumb question, but does your gate pass work at all gates, or just the gate for the Village you live in? When I rented in Chatham in July I just assumed my gate pass just worked at the Chatham entrance gate. I will be back in October renting in Sabal Chase so I thought I would ask before Oct.

nkrifats 09-10-2011 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Schaumburger (Post 392596)
Probably a dumb question, but does your gate pass work at all gates, or just the gate for the Village you live in? When I rented in Chatham in July I just assumed my gate pass just worked at the Chatham entrance gate. I will be back in October renting in Sabal Chase so I thought I would ask before Oct.

Works at all gates.

Schaumburger 09-10-2011 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by nkrifats (Post 392598)
Works at all gates.

Thank you!

downeaster 09-10-2011 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by BigLew (Post 392577)
also, once through the gates, unless otherwise posted the max speed limit is 25mph, as noted in other threads. this was a request by the builder as it is not the 30mph norm on local roads. All were part of the plan to limit speeds and increase safety. The gates do take pictures of people entering which are available for review should any crime occur...:police:

Didn't I read somewhere that will change to 20 MPH effective Jan. 1, 2012?

Pturner 09-10-2011 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by asianthree (Post 392587)
I am still getting over the shock that the gates cost 1.5 million.....we could get a really big indoor heated pool for everyone

Hi Asianthree,
Gates or no, it would have to be one "really big" pool indeed to serve the 80,000 living in TV, let alone the 110,000 population at build out. I can't see that just a single heated indoor pool included in the amenity fees is feasible for a population the size of TV. All of the other included amenities are located throughout TV for convenient access and are built for so many thousand per facility. They may be crowded at times, but are available to all Villagers as some times. A single heated indoor pool could not serve the demand.

The gates and cameras are a deterrent to crime, serve a purpose in slowing traffic and separating carts and cars entering neighborhoods and add charm to the community. To me, the price-tag is not high for a community this size.

Larry Wilson 09-10-2011 05:09 PM

We had a pool
 
We had a pool. You paid to use the fitness center and the pool.
Harold planned for many of these fitness centers with pools. You will find indoor pools in every gated community around here.
Many cannot take the full sun and in the winter there are many days the air is too cold to use the pools.
For many elderly, that indoor pool was the only exercise they got all winter.
A reason some moved.
One more example of the good old days for us who have lived here for 7 or more years.
I know this will bring on the posts about how everything is perfect in the Villages. Well I have lived here long enough to tell you, both my wife and I used that pool. Many people were very upset when it was taken away.
I like it here too but we should have an indoor pool. Go see how many people wrote that in " the what I hate about the Villages' thread.

Back to thread. Not one crime or robbery was ever prevented or solved by those gates. Yes, we have crime in the Villages. Our best friends and others have been robbed. Not often reported. But on the whole we are safe here .
I do agree the gates are good for slowing down traffic. I also agree many people hit the gates.

buggyone 09-10-2011 09:31 PM

We have crime in The Villages? Yes, there are some golf clubs taken from golf cart at a parking lot now and then. I have heard of unoccupied homes being broken into by service techs from some companies or even groundskeepers on a very rare occasion. I have not heard of ANY violent crime such as strongarm robbery, muggings, or things like that. I see people walking safely at midnight here.

I have seen the teenagers from Lady Lake area hanging out at Spanish Springs and the Church on the Square at night. No one is causing any problems.

This is the most crime-free community I could imagine.

Yorio 09-11-2011 09:43 AM

Phone number, not 911
 
Is there a phone number one can call, if there is suspicious activities going on or someone walking who doesn't seem to belong in the neighborhood?

buggyone 09-11-2011 10:28 AM

You can always call Community Watch at 753-0550. They have no police power at all but would be willing most likely to "check out" suspicious activity - such as a group of people emptying out a house at 3 am.

I do wonder about the phrase of "someone walking who doesn't seem to belong in the neighborhood".

graciegirl 09-11-2011 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by buggyone (Post 392881)
We have crime in The Villages? Yes, there are some golf clubs taken from golf cart at a parking lot now and then. I have heard of unoccupied homes being broken into by service techs from some companies or even groundskeepers on a very rare occasion. I have not heard of ANY violent crime such as strongarm robbery, muggings, or things like that. I see people walking safely at midnight here.

I have seen the teenagers from Lady Lake area hanging out at Spanish Springs and the Church on the Square at night. No one is causing any problems.

This is the most crime-free community I could imagine.

Everyone knows this is my hot button.

I agree with you completely. I think people bring their fears with them from their old place. Relatively speaking...this is a VERY safe place.

We have had one murder, before we came three years ago. Someones adult child was somehow mixed up with drugs and someone came and shot the mother of that child...am I correct on that one? We had a domestic abuse case last year where a woman shot through the bathroom door at her husband and wounded him badly.

We have had clubs and carts stolen. The cart stealing was done by a villagers son and he was caught.

We have had appliances stolen from homes not yet moved into. We have had reported instances of expensive jewelry being stolen out of a home when people were not present.

When taking our grandson to the hospital two years ago in the middle of the night we saw two women jogging down Morse at four in the morning.

I feel safe here, but you are gonna hear that others do not.

And you will then hear about carrying guns here in order to feel safe.

We are all different in how we percieve things.

thistrucksforyou 09-11-2011 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Cateca (Post 335881)
We moved here from a gated community in another state and became used to having a guard at the entrance who upon asking the visitor's name either opened the gate/barrier or denied access. The latter when the resident being visited so requested.

Here is The Villages, there are gates galore; it seems every village has one, whether with a guard or without. However, access is really a big joke, since all the "visitor" to an unguarded village has to do is press a button by the gate, thus lifting the barrier.

My question thus is: How can a villager control who comes to "visit"?


The villages has never advertised itself as a gated community... It always advertises itself as FLORIDAS FRIENDLIEST HOMETOWN....

SteveBressi 10-02-2011 11:33 AM

The Villages are not restricted access. The Gates, however, are a deterrant. Just the fact that a outsider has to interact with someone to gain entry and there are cameras are enough. The point about the slowing of traffic at cart crossings is also a good one.

All-in-all I believe the gates are well-worth the money we pay for them and do deter crime and other unsavory entry to our communities. Nothing will completely prevent crime - not even restricted entry.

Overall, the Villages is a safe and secure community and the gates help keep it that way.

GTTPF 10-02-2011 12:12 PM

After! I'm not real happy about not being told, it is underhanded practice that I didn't expect from TV.:boxing2:

Barefoot 10-02-2011 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by GTTPF (Post 401424)
After! I'm not real happy about not being told, it is underhanded practice that I didn't expect from TV.:boxing2:

When you first look at properties with a Village Agent, I believe they deliberately try to give the impression that it is a gated community and you cannot get access without a resident card. When we purchased, we believed we would be living in a gated community.

However, having said that, now it doesn't matter to me one bit. I feel perfectly safe. I think the current system works just fine. Gates are a bit of a deterrent to anyone unfamiliar with the entry system. And we don't have to pay to maintain the roads.

dblwyr 10-02-2011 06:27 PM

Not a Gated Community
 
I have read material recently in the Villages publications, clarifying that this is not a gated community. The gates are for the purpose of slowing traffic, and to the extent entrants are photographed or access the voice commuinication there may be some control. The roads in the Villages are public roads. I did know this before moving here, and am fine with it.

Jerseygirl08 01-03-2013 10:06 PM

gate pass
 
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Originally Posted by angiefox10 (Post 392457)
We were told there were cameras by a sales agent and by an owner who said thats how they knew who busted the gate at 1:00 am in the morning coming in drunk.

I was just told by a staff person at the VCDD that our gate passes have "ID numbers" on the back that are exclusively yours. They can track you using your gate pass ID number. Cameras must just be a backup measure.

I'm not liking the fact that I can be tracked. However, I have nothing to hide and never will - but the idea just does not sit well with me.

mulligan 01-03-2013 10:31 PM

If that's the case, never look at a retail site online, never use a credit card, a grocery or drugstore card, and never put a toll transponder in your car. You may also want to avoid using a cell phone with GPS.

Virtual Geezer 01-04-2013 07:01 AM

The company that I use to work for used the same security system for access to their buildings and even doors within the building. I got to play around with the system a bit and yes it can do a lot. For example our system would sound an alert when someone tried to enter a door that they were not authorized. Also a quick hit of a function key and up pops a picture of that individual from their employee badge. Lists could be created to show when any person entered the building if HR or a manager requested.

All the programming was done on a central computer in the security department and changes took effect instantly and it changed the access at any location around the country. The access cards are RFI cards and can be wiped out with a magnet. All identification was done within the cards via the programming.

A nice system and I was very surprised to see it when I first visited TV.

One other thing about the system is that it has the ability to set the distance from the card sensors needed to read the card. The larger the receiver (the gray square you hold your card up to ) the farther away the card can be held to be read and again that can be controlled by the program.

VG


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Originally Posted by Jerseygirl08 (Post 603604)
I was just told by a staff person at the VCDD that our gate passes have "ID numbers" on the back that are exclusively yours. They can track you using your gate pass ID number. Cameras must just be a backup measure.

I'm not liking the fact that I can be tracked. However, I have nothing to hide and never will - but the idea just does not sit well with me.


tzangrilli 01-04-2013 08:08 AM

The main reason for gates is not for security. They are there as a traffic control device to make everyone slow down so merging and crossing busy intersections can be a little safer.


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