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Downsizing and moving to an easy maintenance home in TV with access to lots of fun activities sounds really nice! |
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For the most part the Villages are still restricted capacity in places and there's no Square entertainment and from what I've read here even though the movies are open the attendance has been low. If I were up north I'd stay and just wait it out. Good luck in whatever you decide. |
Actually people not going to the pool etc means we are all cautious. Hopefully that applirs no mstter where you live. The are no guarantees that other parts of this country do not have the same problem. We only hear about our state because this is where we reside. I for one am cautious and encourage others to do the same. I have started my water aerobics class. We have a limit of 40 and that is working out well.
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I would say don't come back this fall. Florida does not have a mask order, and the governor wants to re-open ASAP. So they will not have the virus under any type of control by the fall. Even though it is suggested to use a mask, many do not, again for political reasons. So restaurants with servers not wearing a mask is common. Basically to stay safe you have to just stay in your house. With golf you can socially distance but many other activities that is not possible. Wait until there is a vaccine.
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Safer than Sorry
I’m staying away for a while until Florida works everything out. Although we should be relatively safe villages picked up 12 cases in last 2 days. Some of the infected claimed they had contact with covid patient. Yesterday the found was not specific. Play safe
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Whether many want to believe it or not, more testing results in identification of more people being infected. What to look at is the hospital admittance rate and death rate based on age basis. |
It depends on your risk level. It is June 26 and Florida is peaking. Many northern states peaked already and are guarding a resurgence. I would stay north until FL cases and deaths are on the decline for a week or two. Many activities are outside here, so watch contact but consider coming down to stay active. Bring hand sanitizer and masks. Still hard to get here.
I just moved here from Michigan and will be returning there for a while to see the self home schooled grand kids after my 14 day quarantine. Parents are all nurses/ drs or prison workers, so the grandkids have had limited contact w adults. I expect a seasonal virus return In the fall most everywhere and it usually is more deadly than this one. Check to see if you have some immunity perhaps, and come on down to enjoy the sunshine and modified activities. It is certainly better than being stuck in your home for 3-4 months. I am guessing that the northern states will support careful vaccine production/distribution more aggressively than southern states. May want to get vaccinated there. Good luck & health, and kudos for requesting input. |
If you make this trip by plane, I recommend getting the ticket now so that you can change plans if there is a new spike and you need to.
I think it is safe here as long as recommended precautions (masks, social distance) are followed. While cases in Florida are increasing, they are among a younger demographic - average age mid-30s - , and some but not all of the increase in numbers is attributable to more testing. Deaths have not increased anywhere, including Florida, even though cases here and elsewhere have increased for weeks. I see plenty of people in the pools. Current talk is that there will be club meetings in person, though we will need to wear masks, of course. I go to restaurants and see plenty of people dining-in. Servers wear masks and patrons are socially distanced. Golf goes on as it has. For me the bottom line is that people fall into two camps. This is contagious, there is not a vaccine, we can't close down forever. This means a good percent of people will get the virus. The two camps: (Camp A): I am at risk of death or serious health complications so I will isolate myself for as long as it takes. (Camp B) I cannot stay isolated forever, the shut-down was for purposes of keeping hospitals from being overwhelmed, they are not overwhelmed, and I am going to go out even if I could get sick. Hopefully Camp B folks wear masks and keep distant. I'm Camp B - I can't stay in my home for months or years, so I use caution but go out. If I was Camp A, I would not come - too many chances to catch the virus on the road. If you are Camp A you are going out as little as possible, so I do not see how you would enjoy coming here. Your northern state will be "open" by October (unless we have a second wave, in which case all bets are off) so its likely your northern state will be having an increase at the time you want to come here. We always knew openings would cause increased cases, but we knew we could not close forever without eventually doing more harm to people that the virus itself. So flexibility is key - get a ticket that can be rescheduled or don't have irrevocable plans to drive. Be ready to make a final decision closer to the day. In fact, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention *esti*mated in May that the coronavirus kills about 0.26 percent of the people it infects, about 1 in 400 people. This is an average - older people and people with underlying conditions won't do as well, but it is not fatal to most people healthy enough to travel, such as yourselves. One thing that is a little different here is people who are not wearing masks - It is not a majority, but I think there are far too many. That difference is likely to persist since, sadly, it seems to be political and there are political differences, on average, between The Villages and northern states. It was much better at Publix last time I went, though I am not sure the improvement is permanent. I can hope. You could check closer to the day to see how we are doing with masks if this is a big factor in your decision. |
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I have a parent in an Independent living facility and they are taking very prudent precautions. Everyone wears a mask. There are strict social distancing rules. They have meals served in their apartments. If a resident even gets tested for the viruses, the facility basically goes on a lock down with residents confined to their apartments. If I was in group A and wanted to greatly minimize my risk of exposure to this virus, I would live where she is living. No question. Active adults, living in single family homes in an active adult community with lots of shared group amenities are simply going to experience a higher level of risk unless they can stay inside of their homes until a safe and effective vaccine is developed. The best thing that people can do is if they are symptomatic - stay home. Do not put on a mask and head out to Publix - stay home. The risk of asymptomatic transmission appears to be, thankfully, very low. It's the symptomatic, sneezing, coughing folks (masks or no masks) who are spreading this virus around. |
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The Villages has a nice video they can send to you. And reading this TOTV will give you some flavor for the place. There is, also a forum on Facebook for TV.
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There is an uptick in cases but many of those cases appear to be in the younger age groups and most of those people are not getting very sick from it which is a blessing. Considering how many people are out and about I think we're going to be o.k. If things were going to get bad they would already be really, really bad. I think that the fresh air, sunshine and Florida citrus are helping to keep us healthier than other parts of the country. TV will bounce back from this - I am sure of it. |
Don't go anywhere, especially if you're over 65 and your BMI is over 30--do you need a better reason to lose weight
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As far as the virus is concerned, The Villages is a safe place to be .
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In 3 counties combined ( Marion Lake and Sumter) for 3+ months we had less than 1000 positives and around 30+ deaths. Considering the rest of Florida that was so good. Since they "opened things up" who knows. WE cant get TRUE figures... With travel from hot spot States, and other visitors, it will bad in the fall and winter. If you value your life stay safe, and stay home.. Too many here will NOT wear a mask or social distance. NO MASK MEANS YOU DONT CARE, about family, friends or even yourself.
And BTW, if you rent then cancel with the Villages they WILL keep your money.. regardless of the US & global situation on travel. |
Don't plan on coming anytime soon but keep checking. Today Texas and Florida reversed themselves and are now banning alcohol sales in bars because of the huge uptick in positive cases. Many here do not wear masks because it's restricting their freedom to contract or spread the virus. It may come under control once again.
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After being basically couped up at home for the past three months, We are driving down from NY next week. We will try not to stay in a hotel, but will have my own sheets, etc, just in case. But I will tell you that I will not be doing anything that has me to close to other people, and I absolutely will not go out to public areas without a face mask. Of course in my golf cart, no need for a mask I guess. I just plan to do some things in my house, bike ride, take rides in the golf cart, go to the pool, if not crowded, etc. Watch out for this NY gal, because if someone walks past me in an indoor place, not wearing a mask, the Brooklyn will come out!! HAHA
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You know, we snowbirds pay property taxes on our homes, amenity fees, and other fees for garbage and water even when we are not there. So as we see it, we are subsidizing the full timers in The Villages. And we don’t mind. A simple thanks would be enough. |
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There’s a reason why certain eastern and northern states are quarantining travelers coming from Florida. The virus is bad here and getting worse. It’s appalling to see the number of people walking around without masks. If I were you, I’d plan to stay put. I wish I were up there right now. I won’t be surprised if The Villages has to close much of what it has opened too soon. Getting the virus is a high price to pay for “ having fun.”
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If you have a house here and really like it, come on down. Not necessarily safe to do any “normal” activities except maybe golf.
A friend ventured out to dinner at Cane Garden last week, at an outside table. They observed ‘back to normal’ activities at the bar. Two deep, loud, agitated....terrific for COVID spread. As you ride around town, you see similar ignorance of the CDC guidelines. If you feel really safe up north, stay there. By the way, bring groceries. If you come to Florida you’re expected to quarantine for fourteen days. |
You might want to think about risk in more than one way: first the risk that you get sick. That risk is difficult to quantify. Your movements, your interactions, your health profile, etc, The second risk is that if you get sick, will there be enough hospital capacity to treat you effectively? That is the secondary risk which actually is more easily quantified, and may be more relevant.
Personally, the risk here is a bit more elevated that in other states due to culture, but you can catch the virus in either place. Your outcome may depend more on the availability and quality of healthcare than of getting the virus. However, there are no future guarantees and statistics are not a guarantee, just a historical measurement with never enough details, to any future outcome so being conservative will always be your best option. sportsguy |
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You are enjoying your way of life and we are definitely enjoying ours. We all make decisions that are best for us. There is no need for any of us to thank the other for simply enjoying their life as they choose. |
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Over 100 cases in The Villages now
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Friday June 26, 2020 Today, Florida reported another record for daily new coronavirus cases, with more than 8,900 new cases. Florida Smashes Coronavirus Case Record: Nearly 9,000 Positive Cases on Thursday (NPR) It was a rough week in The Villages too, which now has more than 100 cases. Seven more Villagers test positive for COVID-19 (**************) As you might expect, with numbers rising like they are, the brakes are being pumped on our “re-opening”, starting with bars. All alcohol consumption at Florida bars suspended effective immediately (WESH) Some businesses that have been open, are now shutting back down, either as a precaution, or as a result of their employees or customers contracting the virus. Village Dental shut down due to COVID-19 (**************) Testing will be available this week at the New Covenant United Methodist Church in The Villages from Monday, June 29th through Thursday, July 2nd from 9:00 AM to 12:00 PM. Registration is required and you can do that here: Events List Page | Florida Department of Health in Sumter |
Another factor to consider: traveling is especially difficult. My younger brother is an over the road trucker (all over Eastern states.)
He could not stay home - essential worker delivering food and goods to businesses, etc. For the past 4 months, clocking 60-80 work hours a week. He said it has been extremely high stress. Truck stops and motels not open, can't get a shower, can't eat anywhere except for takeout or eating food brought from home in truck. Makes long traveling days even longer. I wouldn't even consider getting on an airplane these days. If you are in a relatively safe area, I would stay put. Many people in Florida ignoring consequences and we have yet to reach peak numbers. The threat is a long way from over. |
We have a small but non violent group of Grantifa activists here but so far no riots or statue toppling.
New cases are surging but they are mostly younger median age 35. Its safe here as long as you stay away from people. Hospitals are not overwhelmed as most younger cases rarely need them. |
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When you decide which way I should change to can you PM me thanks a lot! I just got a PM that says you may have been wrong about one thing. Not my business but it had something to do with a couple of Lobsters! :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl: :bigbow: :mademyday: |
It is as safe as one makes it. Take risks and it is not, take appropriate precautions and it is safe. It all depends on personal responsibility.
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So, that is why the South has not been as infected as the North over the same time period, but the behaviors are reversing and the South is spreading due to more indoor activities to escape the heat. So this surge is effectively the south's first wave, which makes the south luckier in that the more deadly virus which kills its host and has a shorter life span, has a faster diminishing R0, and not as prevalent and the less deadly or milder is the current most persistent virus. However, Friday, Fauci also said that this type of virus with such large variation of outcomes, has never been seen before in infectious disease studies. So don't assume that there are any guarantees of simple or safe outcomes just because the average age of infections is trending towards the average age of the population, the only assumption is better treatments for most serious shorter hospital stays. Apparent mild cases are still ending up dead at home. And these statements are not paranoia, just data points and analysis from individual outcomes, and medical observations and analysis, as reported in a hospital setting by Coachk, who reviews individual deaths many times a week for statutory reporting. And CoachK listens in every morning on senior staff conference calls at the medical center, discussing all aspects of the hospital current daily status and updates. sportsguy |
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