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Gpsma 08-23-2023 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by snbrafford (Post 2248648)
I try to avoid self checkouts as I feel like I'm taking jobs away from someone. These should be great jobs for high schoolers and young people THAT WANT TO WORK!. I used to work in grocery retail and the market had to install cameras above each register to prevent theft - or at least in some cases put dummy ones up - and this did help. I suspect the reason the stores will give is that it reduces costs which I suspect it does so we are all to blame for wanting lower costs. This is the same as the order kiosks at the fast food places.

Remember driving with my uncle when i was a little kid. Had to pay a toll on the parkway near him…10cent tolls. Of course they had the lanes with baskets to throw yoir dime in. He said to me…i always go to the toll collecter…u do t want them to lose their jobs!

Fast forward now….no toll collectors anywhere..all electronic tolling.

Times and technology change. We cant save low level jobs.

Stu from NYC 08-23-2023 01:34 PM

[QUOTE=Michael G.;2248699]
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Originally Posted by ThirdOfFive (Post 2248688)

The sad part with young people today is their math skills.
Could they add and subtract without a register that does it for them?

Your right but this is mainly the fault of our educational system where these skills are not taught

manaboutown 08-23-2023 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2248713)
Your right but this is mainly the fault of our educational system where these skills are not taught

You're correct!

Here's why...Teachers Unions: Are the Schools Run for Them? - Foundation for Economic Education.

djlnc 08-23-2023 01:59 PM

I was shopping at a Walmart in NC a couple years ago where they had someone with a scanner checking receipts at the exit. It was a very quick process that could not possibly check the contents in the cart so I asked her what the purpose was. She explained that sometimes people would exit with a cart of goods and a receipt, but the receipt was not dated at the current time/day. So the scan was just checking the time on the receipt.

OrangeBlossomBaby 08-23-2023 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael G. (Post 2248618)
Your Thoughts..................

To all the Supermarkets and big commercial stores that operate 'Self Check-outs'....... You are heading towards almost exclusively self-checkout now.

Yesterday I went shopping at one such store and the lady checking receipts at the exit was stopping everyone.

I didn't choose to participate in that nonsense, I had already filled my cart, emptied my cart and scanned the items, refilled my cart and so I just skipped the exit line and left.
I heard her saying "Umm - Excuse me “ as I kept walking and raised the receipt above my head, leaving the store.

You can either trust me to do self-checkout, or you can put your cashiers back in place like it used to be.
• I'm not interested in proving that I did your job for you.
• If you want me to be a cashier with no training then that's your problem not mine.
• Keep employing young people and give them job opportunities.

YOU DON'T PAY ME TO SCAN MY OWN SHOPPING.
YOU DON’T GIVE ME STAFF DISCOUNT FOR WORKING FOR YOU.

Signed ......All of us
People we need to share this statement its basically about PROFIT to the stores AND putting People out of a JOB....!!!

My opinion is the same as it was a few months ago when someone posted the exact same copy-paste on Facebook:

Signed - speak for yourself.

1. The Walmart you're complaining about isn't exclusively self check-out.
2. The self check-out banks have at least one employee, in some cases more than one, to assist shoppers with those very self check-outs.
3. The self check-out banks also have a front end manager to handle anything that the associates can't handle.
4. You're not "entitled" to shop there at all. They can ask you to leave, or prevent you from entering, any time they want for any reason EXCEPT any that violate discrimination law - "protected classes." Saying "I'm a customer and pay your salary" does not make you a member of a protected class.
5. Walmart, Target, BJ's, Sam's, and Costco all have folks at the exits to check receipts. They always have. They're instructed to check randomly AND to check baskets of things that aren't in bags, or baskets that have things on the bottom shelf, where a cashier (or customer) might have missed (or intentionally tried to steal).
6. Enjoy your boycott, and get out of my line. I prefer the self check-out and you're in my way.

OrangeBlossomBaby 08-23-2023 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2248649)
Are those your own thoughts or did you find it on the internet? If the latter, you ought to give some credit to the source.

It's a copy-paste from an internet meme. It's a few years old and has recently resurfaced.

OrangeBlossomBaby 08-23-2023 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by LuvNH (Post 2248670)
Self checkout and all the other "selfs" are great if you can see what you are doing. I have advanced macular. I can use my home computer with no problem, but not the self checkout computer with all the pretty little pictures of fruits and vegetables. So what happens to people like me ........ I have been asked to self checkout in Publix and have told the person that I cannot see to do it and the reply "Oh, I'll do it for you", so if you are going to do it for me why can't I go through the regular checkout and have someone help me?

Publix has actual cashiers. If you know you have trouble seeing and will need assistance, then next time go into the line with the actual cashier. If you don't, then you are one of the reasons they don't hire more cashiers.

Pondboy 08-23-2023 03:10 PM

Another view point ;

Labor is expensive and most folks don’t want to work menial jobs. They want paid holidays, sick time, 401k programs and health care. Those are all value added benefits that get added to the cost of the goods that we buy. Are you willing to pay more for those goods to support the working class people? How many of you have called contractors and gone with the cheapest who offered you a quote? How much does he pay his help? What benefits do they get?

Here in the Villages is a labor shortage. Who’s gonna check you out and bag your groceries? Let me hear you complain when you have to wait 15 minutes to make it thru check out. Are you willing to pay more for your groceries to support 15 cashiers and a slew of folks to bag your groceries? Publix is open from 7 AM to 9 PM seven days a week. Do you want to work nights and weekends!

Are self check outs really stealing people’s jobs ??

As far as checking your receipts. Costco does it as a way to protect you. They check receipts at the door to make sure a cashier did not ring up an item twice.

There was also an article that I read the other day about store thefts. It’s up over 26% to a tune of $94 Billion dollars. We all pay for that in one way or another. Sorry that you did not have time to let that person do their job to help cut down on thefts from the store.

Bill14564 08-23-2023 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2248751)
Publix has actual cashiers. If you know you have trouble seeing and will need assistance, then next time go into the line with the actual cashier. If you don't, then you are one of the reasons they don't hire more cashiers.

My understanding was that he/she started in a cashier line but was asked to move to a self-checkout line.

mickey100 08-23-2023 03:46 PM

I doubt that these people "boycotting" the self checkout lanes are saving any jobs. Technology changes constantly. As someone else said, these low level jobs are being phased out due to changes in technology. I have a relative that works at Walmart up north and with no high school degree, gets almost $20/hour. Obviously it's cheaper for Walmart and ultimately cheaper for us to have self checkout rather than pay cashiers well above minimum wage. Retail is transforming. We are shopping a lot differently than we did even 5 or 10 years ago. And another way to look at it, is these self checkout stations are creating new jobs - people have to manufacture and service and program these checkout stations. One thing I like about self checkout is that I don't have to wait in line very long. And that is a plus for both the customer and the store. For those that don't like it, or have medical issues, you can still check out with a physical person.

Carla B 08-23-2023 03:48 PM

I'm one who has trouble with self-checkout lines. I have Reynaud's Syndrome, which numbs the fingertips when exposed to cool environments. Any temp below 76 deg. F. seems to trigger it, so I have to get an employee's help anyway.

photo1902 08-23-2023 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2248748)
My opinion is the same as it was a few months ago when someone posted the exact same copy-paste on Facebook:

Signed - speak for yourself.

1. The Walmart you're complaining about isn't exclusively self check-out.
2. The self check-out banks have at least one employee, in some cases more than one, to assist shoppers with those very self check-outs.
3. The self check-out banks also have a front end manager to handle anything that the associates can't handle.
4. You're not "entitled" to shop there at all. They can ask you to leave, or prevent you from entering, any time they want for any reason EXCEPT any that violate discrimination law - "protected classes." Saying "I'm a customer and pay your salary" does not make you a member of a protected class.
5. Walmart, Target, BJ's, Sam's, and Costco all have folks at the exits to check receipts. They always have. They're instructed to check randomly AND to check baskets of things that aren't in bags, or baskets that have things on the bottom shelf, where a cashier (or customer) might have missed (or intentionally tried to steal).
6. Enjoy your boycott, and get out of my line. I prefer the self check-out and you're in my way.

Best post of the day. Hands down.

Mleeja 08-23-2023 05:58 PM

Waiting longer in line for a real checkout person is kind of a self fulfilling prophecy. If there wasn’t so many self checkouts stations, there would be more “live” checkout stations. If going to Walmart, if I am getting one or two items I will use self checkout. If I have a cart full of items or something expensive I will go to a live checkout line. At Sam’s we will use the scan and go app. This is really a time saver. A Sam’s employee is going to check your cart regardless of your checkout method. You might as well skip the line all together.

Rainger99 08-23-2023 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2248635)
We avoid self checkouts.

When they give us a discount for doing this might be interested otherwise why help put cashiers out of work?

And the reason that they put in self checkout is that they usually can’t find workers to work the counter.

Do you use an ATM??

Do you use a kiosk to place orders?

Al2014 08-23-2023 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by snbrafford (Post 2248648)
I try to avoid self checkouts as I feel like I'm taking jobs away from someone. These should be great jobs for high schoolers and young people THAT WANT TO WORK!. I used to work in grocery retail and the market had to install cameras above each register to prevent theft - or at least in some cases put dummy ones up - and this did help. I suspect the reason the stores will give is that it reduces costs which I suspect it does so we are all to blame for wanting lower costs. This is the same as the order kiosks at the fast food places.

I agree with your comments. Companies use a problem in hiring staff as the need for self checkouts. I was in a large Leesburg store today with multiple self checkout options and a few cash registers in the middle of which 1 was open. The customer in front of me had a few items, but as I learned she wanted it rang in 2 transactions. The second transaction needed a price check. During my wait there were 5 employees walking around talking to each other. One of those finally opened another register.


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