Service dogs and rentals

» Site Navigation
Home Page The Villages Maps The Villages Activities The Villages Clubs The Villages Book Healthcare Rentals Real Estate Section Classified Section The Villages Directory Home Improvement Site Guidelines Advertising Info Register Now Video Tutorials Frequently Asked Questions
» Newsletter Signup
» Premium Tower
» Advertisements
» Trending News
» Tower Sponsors




















» Premium Sponsors
» Banner Sponsors
» Advertisements
Closed Thread
Thread Tools
  #1  
Old 02-28-2015, 11:38 AM
missypie missypie is offline
Gold member
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 1,149
Thanks: 1
Thanked 53 Times in 10 Posts
Default Service dogs and rentals

So lets say I have a house to rent. I rent it out using lets say The Villages rental folks. I have a stipulation that there are to be no pets or smoking. The renters move in and then I find out that they have a dog living in the home. I am told the dog has to stay because it is a Service Animal and not a pet. I guess so it goes??
  #2  
Old 02-28-2015, 11:55 AM
OpusX1's Avatar
OpusX1 OpusX1 is offline
Veteran member
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: The Villages
Posts: 763
Thanks: 1
Thanked 43 Times in 21 Posts
Default

Yep.
You could ask them to leave and risk losing your house.
And there are checkers that are not going to rent but will ask you about service animals and if you hesitate they may sue for $10 or $20 thousand but you may stll have your house.
  #3  
Old 02-28-2015, 12:45 PM
Miles42 Miles42 is offline
Veteran member
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Lower Burrell, Pa. Fishers, IN.
Posts: 664
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

Service dogs, what a joke. It is easy to get any dog certified as a so called service dog. In today's society everyone thinks they are entitled to do as they please with the property of others.
  #4  
Old 02-28-2015, 12:45 PM
gerryann's Avatar
gerryann gerryann is offline
Platinum member
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 1,926
Thanks: 0
Thanked 7 Times in 5 Posts
Default

I guess you'd have to let them stay due to the laws. But, so not nice of them to not let you know the circumstances.

I would hope that most folks in that situation (the renter) would look for pet friendly rentals only.
  #5  
Old 02-28-2015, 12:50 PM
gerryann's Avatar
gerryann gerryann is offline
Platinum member
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 1,926
Thanks: 0
Thanked 7 Times in 5 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Miles42 View Post
Service dogs, what a joke. It is easy to get any dog certified as a so called service dog. In today's society everyone thinks they are entitled to do as they please with the property of others.
You are right that it is easy....but don't assume that this dog is not a legitimate service dog. Maybe it is......however, it's still rude to not disclose before moving in. I'd be fuming if someone pulled that with me.
  #6  
Old 02-28-2015, 12:54 PM
kansasr kansasr is offline
Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 450
Thanks: 81
Thanked 266 Times in 67 Posts
Default

Unless you own 3 or more single family houses, you aren't subject to the Fair Housing Amendments Act. And you'd certainly be within your rights to ask for proof of disability (given that this is a much more long term contract than, say, going into a supermarket with your service animal.) Regardless, I'd contact an attorney before doing anything!
  #7  
Old 02-28-2015, 01:29 PM
graciegirl's Avatar
graciegirl graciegirl is online now
Sage
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 39,600
Thanks: 4,372
Thanked 4,918 Times in 1,684 Posts
Send a message via AIM to graciegirl
Default

Everyone knows I love animals but some people cannot be where animals are or where they have been because of allergies. I think that anyone who would hoodwink another in this manner is a not nice person. It just stinks.
__________________
It is better to laugh than to cry.
  #8  
Old 02-28-2015, 02:56 PM
Madelaine Amee's Avatar
Madelaine Amee Madelaine Amee is offline
Sage
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: The Villages North
Posts: 3,999
Thanks: 928
Thanked 772 Times in 260 Posts
Default

Speak to an attorney. The renter was very wrong not to release this information to you before taking up residence.
__________________
A people free to choose will always choose peace.

Law of Logical Argument: Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about!

Since light travels faster than sound, some people appear bright until you hear them speak
  #9  
Old 02-28-2015, 03:54 PM
obxgal's Avatar
obxgal obxgal is offline
Gold member
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: The Villages
Posts: 1,137
Thanks: 123
Thanked 7 Times in 4 Posts
Default

Being you stipulated that there are to be no pets or smoking, and they brought in a dog, to me they went against the lease. I'd definitely speak to an attorney.
__________________
North of Pgh and OBX
  #10  
Old 02-28-2015, 04:02 PM
CassieInVa CassieInVa is offline
Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 246
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Default

At the very least you should be able to charge an additional cleaning fee if your place is normally pet free. We had to pay $300 cleaning fee on a pet friendly rental.

And I would ask to see confirmation that it is in fact, a service dog. Too many know that they can get away with it because proprietors and or homeowners are afraid of lawsuits. They should have found a pet friendly unit.
  #11  
Old 02-28-2015, 04:26 PM
blueash's Avatar
blueash blueash is offline
Sage
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 2,642
Thanks: 163
Thanked 1,943 Times in 481 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by kansasr View Post
Unless you own 3 or more single family houses, you aren't subject to the Fair Housing Amendments Act. And you'd certainly be within your rights to ask for proof of disability (given that this is a much more long term contract than, say, going into a supermarket with your service animal.) Regardless, I'd contact an attorney before doing anything!

Fair Housing Act and Amendments | Nolo.com

My understanding (not a lawyer) is that if you own 3 or fewer rental properties you further must not be using a broker to qualify as exempt. Additionally there are very stringent rules about what you can and cannot ask of a person who claims they require an animal as either a service or a comfort animal. As the OP clearly indicated that a broker was used, the full anti-discrimination regulations would apply regardless of the number of houses owned.

Frequently Asked Questions - Housing | Service Dog Central
  #12  
Old 02-28-2015, 04:46 PM
bargee bargee is offline
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: The Villages Florida
Posts: 354
Thanks: 37
Thanked 15 Times in 8 Posts
Default Rentals

I would think that if you changed the word"pets"to "animals" you would be protected.
  #13  
Old 02-28-2015, 04:50 PM
pmbinnj pmbinnj is offline
Member
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 56
Thanks: 0
Thanked 4 Times in 1 Post
Default

For many years we owned beach properties at the Jersey shore. They were rented on a weekly basis and most times rented through a realtor. Twice the realtor called to ask if we'd allow a service dog; we declined due to severe allergies. Not sure the federal laws prohibiting discrimination in housing applies to a short-term vacation rental but both times the realtor said they don't want problems between renter and owner (their low commission is just not worth the headache). And only once in over a dozen years did we find a renter who had a dog in our rental house -- my allergies acted up in 5 minutes so we knew! Realtor told us to keep their deposit for extra cleaning. There are so many pet friendly house rentals, hotels, etc...so why be deceitful and not disclose the "service dog"?
  #14  
Old 02-28-2015, 05:41 PM
OBXNana OBXNana is offline
Veteran member
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Central PA, Outer Banks, NC, Pinellas (soon)
Posts: 595
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

We've dealt with "pet free" and "no pets" in NC. Pet Free is telling a perspective occupant there are no pets permitted in the property and is free of anything pet related that can cause allergy's or aggravate asthma. No pets is saying pets are not permitted. But, if an owner or an owners guest has a pet, there may have been animals in the house.

Nothing legal in the terms and only rule of thumb within many renting communities.
  #15  
Old 02-28-2015, 05:49 PM
Phanatic Luvr's Avatar
Phanatic Luvr Phanatic Luvr is offline
Gold member
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Philadelphia & Lower Gwynedd, PA, Ocean City, NJ, Wesley Chapel, FL and The Village of St. James
Posts: 1,088
Thanks: 0
Thanked 7 Times in 3 Posts
Default

I do believe in Florida under the Fair Housing and the Americans with Disabilities Act, you are required to permit tenants with Service or Companion Dogs. You can however, if I am not mistaken, ask for a doctors letter stating the dog is needed. You don't want a lawsuit on your hands, it's just not worth it.
Closed Thread

Thread Tools

You are viewing a new design of the TOTV site. Click here to revert to the old version.

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:23 AM.