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outlaw 10-03-2016 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by outlaw (Post 1300350)
Actually, we are moving toward that kind of thinking. society is changing. And not necessarily for the better. We now have men in ladies clothes legally using the women's restroom. We now have openly active organizations that promote man/boy love (NAMBLA). Sociaty tolerated pedophilia, or at least very young teen sexual exploitation by adults, is not fa
We have the kkk and Nazi groups too, but that doesn't mean we're moving toward that kind of thinking. I think you are taking an extreme example and trying to make it seem normal.
I absolutely don't think NAMBLA is normal, nor transgenders. I honestly believe this is the way society is going. Not happy about it, but that's the way I see it.

golfing eagles 10-03-2016 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 1300353)

I absolutely don't think NAMBLA is normal, nor transgenders. I honestly believe this is the way society is going. Not happy about it, but that's the way I see it.
I don't think there has been much change in these 0.02% of the population ABNORMAL groups. Unfortunately, there has been a dramatic change, mostly media driven, in how the other 99.98% of us perceived them, or even how we are PERMITTED to perceive them. I thank "ze" for your comment and now will decide how to self identify my gender today so I can pick a restroom, trashing the rights of those correctly using it

Topspinmo 10-03-2016 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by outlaw (Post 1300037)
Thousands. Most of these women I have met are happy to be in the US. This was their ticket out of extreme poverty. They are considered wealthy when they visit family in Vietnam.
US culture is different than many places such as Vietnam, where it is not unusual to marry at a very young age.
I was in military long time seen this lots of times at different bases I was stationed at. You can also add Thailand, Philippines, England, Spain, turkey, panama. I sure other branches of service can add some more.

D Lynne 10-04-2016 12:01 PM
Neuter commuter, do it one time and watch people change.

Taltarzac725 10-04-2016 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1300495)

I don't think there has been much change in these 0.02% of the population ABNORMAL groups. Unfortunately, there has been a dramatic change, mostly media driven, in how the other 99.98% of us perceived them, or even how we are PERMITTED to perceive them. I thank "ze" for your comment and now will decide how to self identify my gender today so I can pick a restroom, trashing the rights of those correctly using it
Nice post as usual.

As far as trans-genders are concerned I doubt if many of us would even know that some person had an operation of some kind done especially if these people are now seniors. They would have had quite a number of hormone and other therapies done.

I have met some people that I am never really sure what sex they even are and sometimes their names are Ryan, Randy, Pat, Charlie, Sam, Jan, Mel, etc.

CFrance 10-04-2016 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by D Lynne (Post 1300840)
Neuter commuter, do it one time and watch people change.
I seriously doubt that. Look how well the death penalty has worked

Taltarzac725 10-04-2016 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 1300862)
I seriously doubt that. Look how well the death penalty has worked
Not particularly well. Hard to deter psychopaths and paranoid schizophrenics and terrorists. If they are locked up they can only do violence to other inmates. That is also a problem but is the prison management's ordeal.

About my own obsession with the legal system there are lessons to be learned with the 2-24-1976 murder investigation in the death of Michelle Mitchell. They really messed up with this one. I am so glad that the death penalty had not been involved. Cops Framed Schizophrenic Woman as Killer Lesbian, Sending Her to Prison for 35 Years - The Daily Beast

outlaw 10-04-2016 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by outlaw (Post 1300362)

I don't think there has been much change in these 0.02% of the population ABNORMAL groups. Unfortunately, there has been a dramatic change, mostly media driven, in how the other 99.98% of us perceived them, or even how we are PERMITTED to perceive them. I thank "ze" for your comment and now will decide how to self identify my gender today so I can pick a restroom, trashing the rights of those correctly using it
I agree regarding the % of pop hasn't changed. It's just now tolerated for these types to be public, and even accepted as a valid lifestyle by some.

outlaw 10-04-2016 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 1300862)
I seriously doubt that. Look how well the death penalty has worked
Pretty well. Zero recidivism rate as far as I know.

CFrance 10-04-2016 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by outlaw (Post 1300885)
Pretty well. Zero recidivism rate as far as I know.
Yet hardly preventative.

Taltarzac725 10-04-2016 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by outlaw (Post 1300885)
Pretty well. Zero recidivism rate as far as I know.
Unless you count stabbings in prison which may involve guards or even others. Often the real ugly prisoners in terms of their crimes are killed by other inmates though and it is not the death penalty people murdering again.

And then there are the innocent in prison. Does happen once in a while.

Barefoot 10-05-2016 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by outlaw (Post 1300350)
Actually, we are moving Society tolerated pedophilia, or at least very young teen sexual exploitation by adults, is not far away.
I disagree with your negative outlook.
"Society tolerated pedophilia" will never happen. Sexual exploitation of young teens by adults will never be tolerated. :ohdear:

outlaw 10-05-2016 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Barefoot (Post 1301413)
I disagree with your negative outlook.
"Society tolerated pedophilia" will never happen. Sexual exploitation of young teens by adults will never be tolerated. :ohdear:
Look up NAMBLA and see what can openly exist in this country today. Go watch New York City's gay pride parade and see what behavior the public will tolerate.

outlaw 10-05-2016 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 1300972)
Unless you count stabbings in prison which may involve guards or even others. Often the real ugly prisoners in terms of their crimes are killed by other inmates though and it is not the death penalty people murdering again.

And then there are the innocent in prison. Does happen once in a while.
I think you missed my point.

Barefoot 10-05-2016 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by outlaw (Post 1301432)
Look up NAMBLA and see what can openly exist in this country today. Go watch New York City's gay pride parade and see what behavior the public will tolerate.
Sorry, I don't accept your theories.
Suggesting that we look up NAMBLA is like saying the KKK is openly tolerated.
There will always be scum in this world, but I do not personally believe that society will ever tolerate pedophilia.

ColdNoMore 10-05-2016 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Barefoot (Post 1301576)
Sorry, I don't accept your theories.
Suggesting that we look up NAMBLA is like saying the KKK is openly tolerated.
There will always be scum in this world, but I do not personally believe that society will ever tolerate pedophilia.
:BigApplause:...:BigApplause:

ColdNoMore 10-05-2016 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by outlaw (Post 1301432)
Look up NAMBLA and see what can openly exist in this country today. Go watch New York City's gay pride parade and see what behavior the public will tolerate.
There is a huge difference between an organization like NAMBLA...and gays having a parade.

RickeyD 10-06-2016 05:33 AM
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Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1301584)
There is a huge difference between an organization like NAMBLA...and gays having a parade.

You sure about that ??

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ColdNoMore 10-06-2016 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by RickeyD (Post 1301751)
I'm very sure.

One is a sick organization, that believes the sexual exploitation of young/underage boys is just fine and natural. barf

The other, is the sexual orientation...of consenting adults.

The problem is that all too many have been brainwashed into thinking that homosexuality (especially with males)...is the same as pedophilia.

It's not.

Facts About Homosexuality and Child Molestation
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Some conservative groups have argued that scientific research strongly supports their claims that homosexuality and pedophilia are linked. The Family Research Council has produced what is perhaps the most extensive attempt to document this claim. It is an article by Timothy J. Dailey titled Homosexuality and Child Abuse.

With 76 footnotes, many of them referring to papers in scientific journals, it appears at first glance to be a thorough and scholarly discussion of the issue. On further examination, however, its central argument – that "the evidence indicates that homosexual men molest boys at rates grossly disproportionate to the rates at which heterosexual men molest girls" – doesn't hold up.

Reflecting the results of these and other studies, as well as clinical experience, the mainstream view among researchers and professionals who work in the area of child sexual abuse is that homosexual and bisexual men do not pose any special threat to children. For example, in one review of the scientific literature, noted authority Dr. A. Nicholas Groth wrote:

Are homosexual adults in general sexually attracted to children and are preadolescent children at greater risk of molestation from homosexual adults than from heterosexual adults? There is no reason to believe so.

The research to date all points to there being no significant relationship between a homosexual lifestyle and child molestation. There appears to be practically no reportage of sexual molestation of girls by lesbian adults, and the adult male who sexually molests young boys is not likely to be homosexual (Groth & Gary, 1982, p. 147).

If you read the entire article, it actually points out that pedophiles are not really 'heterosexuals' nor 'homosexuals'...as their sexual attraction is based on age.

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The distinction between a victim's gender and a perpetrator's sexual orientation is important because many child molesters don't really have an adult sexual orientation. They have never developed the capacity for mature sexual relationships with other adults, either men or women. Instead, their sexual attractions focus on children – boys, girls, or children of both sexes.

I do get it though, that a lot of us (including myself) feel 'uncomfortable' or 'grossed out'...by public displays of homosexuality.

The same applies for me...to those who are covered with visible tattoos.

What I try to keep in mind however, is that the COTUS does not confer a 'right'...that we never be uncomfortable or repulsed. :shrug:

graciegirl 10-06-2016 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1301851)
I'm very sure.

One is a sick organization, that believes the sexual exploitation of young/underage boys is just fine and natural. barf

The other, is the sexual orientation...of consenting adults.

The problem is that all too many have been brainwashed into thinking that homosexuality (especially with males)...is the same as pedophilia.

It's not.

Facts About Homosexuality and Child Molestation



If you read the entire article, it actually points out that pedophiles are not really 'heterosexuals' nor 'homosexuals'...as their sexual attraction is based on age.




I do get it though, that a lot of us (including myself) feel 'uncomfortable' or 'grossed out'...by public displays of homosexuality.

The same applies for me...to those who are covered with visible tattoos.

What I try to keep in mind however, is that the COTUS does not confer a 'right'...that we never be uncomfortable or repulsed. :shrug:
Excellent post.

Taltarzac725 10-06-2016 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1301862)
Excellent post.
I agree. ColdNoMore. Keep on posting links to credible informational resources. You may be able to change people's hearts and minds somewhat.

As long as they are consenting human adults what they do in their romantic lives should only be their own business. And you always do not chose whom you love. Often our personal history and biology and other factors come into play.

Many of the gays I met in the Twin Cities and the SF Bay area had long term and very loving personal relationships. Some did not. But the same can be said of straights that some are quite promiscuous. And some of the swinging straights do things just as strange as their gay counterparts. Think about Fifty Shades of Gray and its popularity.

RickeyD 10-06-2016 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1301851)
I'm very sure.

One is a sick organization, that believes the sexual exploitation of young/underage boys is just fine and natural. barf

The other, is the sexual orientation...of consenting adults.

The problem is that all too many have been brainwashed into thinking that homosexuality (especially with males)...is the same as pedophilia.

It's not.

Facts About Homosexuality and Child Molestation



If you read the entire article, it actually points out that pedophiles are not really 'heterosexuals' nor 'homosexuals'...as their sexual attraction is based on age.




I do get it though, that a lot of us (including myself) feel 'uncomfortable' or 'grossed out'...by public displays of homosexuality.

The same applies for me...to those who are covered with visible tattoos.

What I try to keep in mind however, is that the COTUS does not confer a 'right'...that we never be uncomfortable or repulsed. :shrug:


I agree with you.

Wandatime 10-06-2016 12:35 PM
I'm pretty sure a pedophile isn't just interested in the little kids one house over. He is also interested in the ones at the grocery store, pharmacy, waiting for a school bus, etc. He may not live "right next door," but he is still a danger to every little one in the entire community. I am glad we are able to pinpoint where known pedophiles live, but it might be a better course of action to keep an eagle eye on the grandchildren.

manaboutown 10-08-2016 02:36 PM
A 39 year old man,a convicted sex offender and armed robber, Jonathan David Pence, has moved in with a couple having the same last name (his parents?) in Winifred according to the online paper whose name cannot be used here.

outlaw 10-09-2016 07:42 AM
Homosexual men have a much higher rate of sexual encounters with underage boys than heterosexual men. The Catholic church is a prime example.

CFrance 10-09-2016 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by outlaw (Post 1303847)
Homosexual men have a much higher rate of sexual encounters with underage boys than heterosexual men. The Catholic church is a prime example.
Huh?

ednetdl 10-09-2016 08:09 AM
Double huh?

graciegirl 10-09-2016 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by outlaw (Post 1303847)
Homosexual men have a much higher rate of sexual encounters with underage boys than heterosexual men. The Catholic church is a prime example.
Could you explain please? Homosexual men are attracted to other men. The Catholic Church seems to be just a pot shot here.

What consenting adults do is their own business. I don't like to have pedophiles around us, because they are not capable of change. There are heterosexual and homosexual pedophiles I am sure. The Catholic Church probably has a lot of priests who are gay. I suppose there are a lot of Baptists and Lutherans that are gay too. They are born with that sexual orientation. I was born attracted to males, which is the predominant sexual inclination.

Next lesson will be on Menstruation. Good grief, don't mix biology and morals if people's behavior is not harming anyone.

Bay Kid 10-09-2016 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by manaboutown (Post 1303556)
A 39 year old man,a convicted sex offender and armed robber, Jonathan David Pence, has moved in with a couple having the same last name (his parents?) in Winifred according to the online paper whose name cannot be used here.
Shame

graciegirl 10-09-2016 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Bay Kid (Post 1303927)
There go the visits from the grandchildren. :sad:
The newest one was also convicted of armed robbery.

manaboutown 10-09-2016 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1303928)
The newest one was also convicted of armed robbery.
Multiple armed robberies of gas stations and a Radio Shack.

His arrests go back at least to 2000.

Jamespdunn45 10-10-2016 03:39 AM
I know that having a predator in the neighborhood is scary. But I am also aware that prosecutors frequently unfairly prosecute cases overzealously. I know of a case when a 20 year old male was jailed for two years for having sex with a 17 year old girl. He spent 18 months in jail. Afterwards he married the girl and they have three kids 10 years later. He is still labeled a sexual predator.

Don't know anything about this individual. But labels can be misleading.

OhioBuckeye 10-10-2016 08:14 AM
REDWITCH, your comment would only be true if it isn't your daughter, granddaughter or wife that he has raped or even has communicated with. Then maybe where he's at isn't good enough! I'm just saying you my be having family visit if you lived next door to him.

TNLAKEPANDA 10-10-2016 01:09 PM
Sometime I find the talk on this site disgusting.

SALYBOW 10-10-2016 01:35 PM
As I see it the only thing we have control over is allowing our grandkids near them. They can live where ever they want.

MollyJo 10-10-2016 02:44 PM
Sexual deviants/sociopath behavior generally commit crimes by 'the perfect opportunity' presenting itself. Just because a person was arrested for trying to hook up with a minor, doesn't mean he would stalk only minors... Always be aware of your surroundings, lock your doors 24/7, regularly check the offender list for your neighborhood.

graciegirl 10-10-2016 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by TNLAKEPANDA (Post 1304775)
Sometime I find the talk on this site disgusting.
Which argument do you object to? The ones saying they are upset he lives here, or the ones saying he needs our understanding and another chance?

redwitch 10-10-2016 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by OhioBuckeye (Post 1304482)
REDWITCH, your comment would only be true if it isn't your daughter, granddaughter or wife that he has raped or even has communicated with. Then maybe where he's at isn't good enough! I'm just saying you my be having family visit if you lived next door to him.
We don't have enough facts to call it a rape. They could have been dating and the parent pressed charges. If it was statutory rape and the girl was almost 16 rather than barely 12, I'm inclined to Not call him a sex offender or a predator and he definitely does not qualify as a predator. As I said, I'm much more concerned with the armed robberies.

As I said, I hope he has come here to turn his life around. If he hasn't, I'm sure he will break parole quickly and be right back behind bars. We can hope.

Moonstar 10-10-2016 07:15 PM
Adult communities are where sex offender can live because children do not live here. I have one that lives 5 houses from me. We have many that live here. The rec paper reminds grandparents to do a search in your area and be aware so you can set boundaries for your grandchildren.

ColdNoMore 10-10-2016 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Moonstar (Post 1304987)
Adult communities are where sex offender can live because children do not live here. I have one that lives 5 houses from me. We have many that live here. The rec paper reminds grandparents to do a search in your area and be aware so you can set boundaries for your grandchildren.
Not to mention the multitudes of those who have committed date rape (because they don't really believe 'NO MEANS NO,' regardless of when it's said )...but their victims chose not to report it to the authorities.

THOSE are the ones who don't make the list...and that we will never know about. :(


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