[old moe]

Originally Posted by red tail

looked up the one that lives a mile from me and his offense was child porno on his computer.

Thats where it starts. Someone like that needs to be watched.

[quirky3]

This may generate controversy, but I'm just relating what my gated community did at their annual meeting last year.

Before the meeting, they distributed information on their proposal, which was to disallow registered sex offenders (I forget if it was more specific than that, like what degree of an offense) from living in a home in the community.

It did not prevent them from buying a home or renting a home, but they could not live there. The one registered sex offender who already lived there was "grandfathered" to be allowed to remain.

They had a lively discussion and a vote, and it passed. I'm not confident that there is an effective monitoring system in place to enforce it, but the rule is on the books if it is needed. Those are just the facts, ma'am.

[quirky3]

Originally Posted by quirky3

This may generate controversy, but I'm just relating what my gated community did at their annual meeting last year.

Before the meeting, they distributed information on their proposal, which was to disallow registered sex offenders (I forget if it was more specific than that, like what degree of an offense) from living in a home in the community.

It did not prevent them from buying a home or renting a home, but they could not live there. The one registered sex offender who already lived there was "grandfathered" to be allowed to remain.

They had a lively discussion and a vote, and it passed. I'm not confident that there is an effective monitoring system in place to enforce it, but the rule is on the books if it is needed. Those are just the facts, ma'am.

One more note - there was a motivator for wanting to get this rule passed. Some of the neighboring communities had recently passed similar rules, and they didn't want to become a "home to homeless sex offenders" by default.

[ladydoc]

Originally Posted by ilovetv

I hope nobody is discounting or pooh-poohing the potential of convicted sex offenders and the registry because of the incidents Gracie and Trish gave (which ARE disgusting because of how they ruined innocent people).

One thing that bothers me is this: Whenever we've bought a home in recent years, we look up the sex offenders nearby. Several times when I've mentioned it to our older friends, women in their 70's or 80's have said, "Oh.....I don't worry about those guys.....I'm OLD and there's nothing sexy about me that they'd want." This horrifies me because they and many people do not know that rape is not a matter of sexual attraction or sexiness......it's an act of power and violence against women, by a woman hater.

It really upsets me when when older women (and men, too) think no rapist would be sexually attracted to them and they presume they are exempt from being an object of his power mongering and violence.

You are absolutely right. It is often misunderstood...rape is indeed an act of violence whether the victim is 18 or 80.

[Loveithere]

Originally Posted by ladydoc

You are absolutely right. It is often misunderstood...rape is indeed an act of violence whether the victim is 18 or 80.

There is no single theory that conclusively explains the motivation for rape; the motives of rapists can be multi-factorial and are subject to debate. Several factors have been proposed: anger, a desire for power, sadism, sexual gratification,and evolutionary pressures.

[CarGuys]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

?????

Kids can get mean or cyber harass on Face book and get themselfs registered Graci.

Not saying it is right but slips of keyboard gets you in do do now!

Or under age sex with two 16 year olds. Has happened for years but now you get jail time. Not saying it's right. Our school has more 13 -15 year old pregnant teenagers than you would ever think possible.

There is the camp of poor babies and there is the camp of thow em all in jail registered for life.

Oh well nasty subject I getting off this one! Before I get wrote up

H

[Pa & Giggi]

Our 4 year old grandson is visiting with us for a short time and the other day my husband took him to the small pirate ship park at LSL. The only other person there was another man maybe in his 60's holding an expensive camera with a telescopic type lense and while my grandson was playing, this gentleman took it upon him self to discreetly aim his camera at him. My husband who is a retired police sgt from a large city immediately walked up to him and told him that he could not take photos of our grandson. This man started to state it was his constitutional right to take all the photos he wants. He was told "Not of MY grandson, you can't". My husband then offered to call the sheriff's office to see if they would agree with him seeing as this guy was so adamant and my husband knew full well what his reaction would be. This guy couldn't leave the park quick enough.

It isn't normal to sit in the park and wait for young kids to arrive and start snapping pictures of them. Parents and grandparents need to watch their children and protect them. I wonder if this guy is on the sex offenders list. Our grandson doesn't leave our sight when he is here with us. Thought we would share our experience in case you go to the park and see someone with a camera.

Giggi & Pa

[ladydoc]

Originally Posted by CarGuys

Kids can get mean or cyber harass on Face book and get themselfs registered Graci.

Not saying it is right but slips of keyboard gets you in do do now!

Or under age sex with two 16 year olds. Has happened for years but now you get jail time. Not saying it's right. Our school has more 13 -15 year old pregnant teenagers than you would ever think possible.

There is the camp of poor babies and there is the camp of thow em all in jail registered for life.

Oh well nasty subject I getting off this one! Before I get wrote up

H

It is a very sad situation, but we live in an extremely sexualized society where kids are bombarded daily with images that send the message that sex is just fun (which it is when you are old enough to handle the consequences), free of committment and necessary in every aspect of life ie: selling beer. Magazines are full of ads where 12 year olds are the models for high fashion clothes and they are made up to look like they are in their 20s. (My neice was that kind of model for awhile until she realized what she was doing was wrong on so many levels.) Body image distortions are rampant and make young girls feel inferior and insecure.

Young men are just acting like "boys will be boys" and held to a totally different standard of behavior. Since they rarely have to pay the consequences for early sexual behavior (although they should) they are pretty indiscriminate.

This duality has existed for a very long time....add hormones to the mixture and you have the perfect storm. Some say biology is destiny.

A good example of this duality are the cases of teachers who have affairs with their students. When it is a girl being abused by a male teacher, it is seen as horrible (which it is). When it is a boy being abused by a female teacher, it is not seen as so horrible...the boy is seen as "lucky"...people forget that a young boy can also be traumatized. That is certainly not the first thing you think of when you hear such stories.

It is a shame that a young man can be labeled for life for typical stupid teen behavior. If they similar in age and consenual (although often the girl's insecurities are played upon...what girl has not heard the "if you loved me you would do this" or the "I will dump you if you don't" line?) then the young man should not be labeled as a sex offender for life; labeled as a jerk, sure. But they are not. They get the old "atta boy." The teens I worked with tell me that the same lines are still standard procedure.

I have often hoped that the young men described above have all daughters....payback and karma are a (rhymes with witch...)

Teenaged girls know that accusations made against males in authority positions are powerful and they use them to manipulate situations.

Frankly,it is a mess.

Until we collectively start giving different messages to teens, not much will change. Unfortunately, this kind of life long labelling is one of the prices we pay for those sexualized messages.

One of the things I most often discussed with parents was that they were NOT their kids friends, not their buddies, not their equals. They are entrusted with a great responsibility and they are bigger, stronger and hopefully smarter then their kids. You have to love them enough to let them hate you sometimes....

[CarGuys]

One of the things I most often discussed with parents was that they were NOT their kids friends, not their buddies, not their equals. They are entrusted with a great responsibility and they are bigger, stronger and hopefully smarter then their kids. You have to love them enough to let them hate you sometimes....[/QUOTE]

Well stated and the Truth. I see very few "Parents" I hear alot of my "Mom and Dad are my best friends" We smoke dope together!"

Sad!