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-   -   Shooting at Applebee's in Lady Lake this morning. (Tuesday). (https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-general-discussion-73/shooting-applebees-lady-lake-morning-tuesday-339650/)

Taltarzac725 03-09-2023 06:17 AM

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Originally Posted by lindaelane (Post 2195991)
We don't know the details of what happened. The most likely scenario is that the man entered the restaurant with gun still in hand.

Don't assume people are "bad" because they have a gun for self-defense. Lives may have been saved by the person with a concealed carry permit. I support hand guns for self-defense possessed by sane, law-abiding citizens. When we take all unlawful guns away from criminals, then we can start taking lawful guns away from the general population.

That is not in the facts. He was reaching in his pocket according to witnesses or maybe as told by the shooter. They have not said what was in those pockets. Hopefully someone had their phone out and was recording or that the restaurant has surveillance cameras.

JGibson 03-09-2023 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by RedChariot (Post 2195772)
This is SUPPOSED to be a retirement community! This is not what I envisioned when moving here 11 years ago. The direction this community is taking saddens me.

Maybe you would feel safer on Mars.

Seriously, TV is one of the safest communities in the country. Some people don't know when they have it good.

There is no place in America where some level of crime doesn't happen.

If you find a safer place besides Mars, let us know.

dewilson58 03-09-2023 06:38 AM

Facts have not been published.

Based on "stories", pretty quick trigger finger.

:ho:

RICH1 03-09-2023 07:03 AM

Why isn’t the information getting out on this Thwarted Attempted Robbery ?

RiderOnTheStorm 03-09-2023 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2195793)
Not sure if I can believe this as it was not in the Sun this AM.

The Sun doesn't report bad news.

ThirdOfFive 03-09-2023 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 2195994)
That is not in the facts. He was reaching in his pocket according to witnesses or maybe as told by the shooter. They have not said what was in those pockets. Hopefully someone had their phone out and was recording or that the restaurant has surveillance cameras.

According to the information available, there were shots fired outside prior to the shooting. In the parking lot? If the shooter reasonably believed that he or others present risked life or great bodily harm when the person killed entered the restaurant and reached for his pocket, then at this point it would appear to be a justified shooting.

Stress "at this point". There is still a lot we don't know and that may be a completely wrong assumption. But if this story proceeds along the lines of most others of this nature, we can be assured that The Court of Public Opinion will have one side or the other tried, convicted and hung quite a long time before we know the complete story.

Dantes 03-09-2023 07:22 AM

They have a bar

Dantes 03-09-2023 07:24 AM

I haven’t seen nothing yet
Wait until the apartment complexes are completed tens of thousands of non-retirees. The villages will be easy pickings

airstreamingypsy 03-09-2023 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by lindaelane (Post 2195991)
We don't know the details of what happened. The most likely scenario is that the man entered the restaurant with gun still in hand.

Don't assume people are "bad" because they have a gun for self-defense. Lives may have been saved by the person with a concealed carry permit. I support hand guns for self-defense possessed by sane, law-abiding citizens. When we take all unlawful guns away from criminals, then we can start taking lawful guns away from the general population.

I thought guns were not allowed at places that sell alcohol. It may have been a good shoot, but the shooter could still be in trouble for it. I hope for his sake the the deceased had a gun.

justjim 03-09-2023 08:09 AM

In a larger city, the chief of police would be on television with more details of this shooting. Just saying.

retiredguy123 03-09-2023 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by airstreamingypsy (Post 2196034)
I thought guns were not allowed at places that sell alcohol. It may have been a good shoot, but the shooter could still be in trouble for it. I hope for his sake the the deceased had a gun.

Not exactly. Applebees is primarily a restaurant, but they do have a bar. You can carry a firearm into a restaurant, but you cannot bring it into the bar area. You are only prohibited from carrying a firearm in an establishment whose primary purpose is to sell alcohol.

MandoMan 03-09-2023 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by mrf0151 (Post 2195690)
Applebee's is open at 1am?????? Somethings not right with this whole story.

Yes, until 1am. Perkins is open until midnight. Margarita Republic is open until 2 am. Surprised me, too. I thought everything around here closed down around 8. But I wouldn’t want to go to any of them at that hour if that’s the sort of clientele they draw.

JRcorvette 03-09-2023 08:25 AM

Very few facts have been released on the shooting. I am guessing that the man who was shot was carrying a gun and who knows what he was saying or how he was acting.

mrf0151 03-09-2023 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Dusty_Star (Post 2195738)
Applebee's is open until 1 am, except Friday & Saturday, when it stays open until 2 am.

Begs the question, WHY?

RedChariot 03-09-2023 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by JGibson (Post 2195995)
Maybe you would feel safer on Mars.

Seriously, TV is one of the safest communities in the country. Some people don't know when they have it good.

There is no place in America where some level of crime doesn't happen.

If you find a safer place besides Mars, let us know.

My point is that this is a retirement community. Or am i in a fantasy land believing that?! I understand every city in the U.S. is ridden with crime. Just seems to me we should not have people shot dead in a community of retirees.


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