Who in TV was a target on this shooting?

That is typically done AFTER a crime has been committed...

:bigbow::bigbow::bigbow:

Who (besides you) mentioned a "ghetto"? :(

One site also stated that the shooting occurred @ "1:00, just in time for the LUNCH rush"...

I'm sure that wasn't in the police report...

Are you implying that the guns that were fired in the parking lot were legally purchased, and that none of the people involved had outstanding arrest warrants, or were possessing illegal drugs? Those are all crimes, for which the police could have made arrests.

Stuff does seem to happen in the Lady Lake area of the Villages more often. The Melinda Duckett suicide was somewhere up there. That case was national news so there was a lot of material in The Villages Daily Sun about it.

Probably there is more news of the bad kind happening because of 441/27 and the people coming in from there.

We never did learn what happened to Trenton Duckett.

Don't know how you came up with that conclusion from what I posted, but like I said... They -could- have been arrested AFTER those crimes were committed...

Now, unless you propose police stop every single person they see, how exactly do you expect them to arrest everyone with an outstanding warrant, or someone possessing illegal drugs or carrying an illegal firearm?

Just responding to the poster who said we need more police. I agree. We need more law enforcement than we currently have.

Well... You DID quote ME in your reply, so...

There are various police departments involved with watching the Villages--Lady Lake, Wildwood, Fruitland Park, Bushnell, and probably others as well.

And a lot of Villagers are armed.

Hate to add facts, but given the low crime in TV, given the officers per 10,000 population..............I wonder what the is the basis for needing more officers (of other posters).

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((maybe to track down all the gate breakers))

The police are only here to take a report after the fact. Your personal safety is up to you.

Looks like to Me an unruly multiculturist earned his just rewards at the hands of a concerned Citizen🤔🤔

And, of course, Welcome to Sumter County, FL

Welcome to Sumter County, FL

They cover a lot of ground like the Florida Highway Patrol.

I recall taking care of a couple of retired realtors' home in an area of Palm Harbor that had a lot of working law enforcement with their families. There was a bank robbery one night and a chase developed. The couple abandoned their car to flee on foot right outside this neighborhood of cops. Well of several LEOs. The ended up hiding on the roof of the house next door to the couple I house sat for in Palm Harbor and also very close to a Middle School. They tossed their weapons in various gardens from the roof but one of them as far as I know was never found. This was after a police helicopter had followed the couple from where they had jumped a fence and went I into that community. The spotlight of the helicopter had woke up the two realtors and their two Westies.

Is the food any better for someone if they go earlier in the evening to Applebee’s? Granted, eating that late at night isn’t good for you. But we don’t need the chain restaurant “police” telling us what’s good or bad for us. Let people eat what they want, it’s up to them!

I was surprised about that as well. I checked online, and sure enough, Applebee’s is open until 1am weeknights and 2am on weekends. Why? I don’t know of anyone having dinner or drinks that late in The Villages.

Educate yourself...........................there are people working different shifts, working thru the night. Midnight could be time for breakfast, could be lunch, could be dinner for different people.

And WHY did a lady OPEN a locked door to let a man firing a gun outside in? If I heard outside gun shots... I would be happy to be eating lemon pie with the guy with the conceal permitted gun. Doubt he was a Villager, we go to bed by 10.

Perhaps he was at the door pleading for entrance because someone outside was shooting at him. Perhaps a woman felt sorry for him and let him in. Or perhaps she knew him or was his lookout or was carrying drugs for him. Mere speculation on my part.

Hmmm
 

Fire a few rounds outside a building, then enter with a firearm and expect to live?

Not in my world.

Witness, a foreigner visiting during the unfortunate lockdown:

Me hear noises like gun or firework
Me see man with gun
We lock door
Next we see man with gun get in
Me see many red dots like stars on man
Loud noises
Me see pink mist
Man fall down, not move

There is probably very little lack of facts; they just aren't distributed to you or me.

That's part of police work.

It has a bar..

Your point?
 

So, what are you trying to say wise one?

Don't they both have a bar?

I think the fact that this is not a gated community is a major factor. Relative lived in Lakewood Ranch in 2 different areas. One entrance I could not enter at all. Not manned at the time so no card no entrance. The main entrance we had to stop. Our name and license plate written down. They documented who we were visiting. Only after that were we able to pass through the gate. Prior to living here, I did not realize how important a gated community can be. And wasn't Morse smart when he decided to have the roads fall under the local jurisdictions so that anyone can enter here and ride around. Not!

Sounds as though a man involved in a shooting outside in the parking lot managed to gain entry into the restaurant via a side door after the restaurant had closed. And a patron still inside the restaurant, who had a concealed carry permit, wound up fatally shooting the individual.

He might have been whom they were shooting at and came into the bar to get away from the shooters.

We do not know what he had in his pocket and whether the person who shot him was drunk or not. Maybe he was reaching for his cell phone to call 911.

Facial recognition cameras and SW are capable of quickly identifying specific individuals, even out of large groups or against diverse backgrounds (e.g. outdoors). Many stores, including Apple centers, already do this as you walk in their doors in order to identify and then monitor habitual shoplifters. Likewise, some states, including NY, equip their state troopers cars with license plate recognition/identification cameras to immediately check passing cars for violations (e.g. expired registrations). It takes just a few seconds. Florida police could do the same in order to identify sought-after criminals.

Truer words were never spoken. Police simply cannot respond quickly enough.

Florida police do use license plate recognition.
Every cruiser is equipped with the technology.

WOW. I didnt see that in the news or anything like that in the story. So nice of you to make that ASSumption

Very interesting guy gets shot after he goes inside for help?

I see the Court of Public Opinion is in full deliberative mode…

The victim is black.........

Florida Applebee's shooting leaves man dead

No but a state Stand your Ground law is. Someone has their hand in their pocket? You can shoot them. Justification: "I thought he was reaching for his weapon, I considered it a threat to my personal safety and defended myself."

Applebees isn’t inside TV proper, so gate not appropriate.

We also have family in Lakewood Ranch. It is more secure in many ways, but, also if you noticed, many many ways to enter without a vehicle, and a few even with a vehicle if you looked closely...it's a HUGE area there !. You might look into Del Web community, just north of the Villages. When we have visited and played golf there, there was much more security (been nearly two years so may have changed), they always stopped us, took information, etc. Villages, even "way back" never attempted to be secure, even the service people could be truck loads of anyone...not necessarily actual service or repair people. As it's grown here, of course the changes are much much greater of things happening, it's all public roads and streets but most people just visiting get the idea that it is a secured gated community...it does have gates ... after all. If you have the $$$$, there are some really secure communities in the Orlando area. Have friends whose son is a well known sports professional, it's really secure. Went to his home with his parents, you would (I think ?) feel much more secure there, but, it comes at a high cost and still is not a guarantee !