Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2202829)

Oh no - not if you're causing a scene. Just if you put your hand in your pocket. Because who knows - you could be some crazy person who hates country music trying to blend in, and NOT causing a scene. Until that one moment when you choose to reach for your glock.

I have no reason to think you're just reaching for a tissue to blow your nose. I think it's a gun. And I'm a reasonable person. So I'm gonna shoot you before you have the chance to unload your cartridge of death on random line-dancers in the square.

Apparently that is justifiable, if the criteria for whether it's reasonable to shoot someone is "they put their hand in their pocket and you therefore determine there MIGHT be a gun in that pocket."

Originally Posted by Number 10 GI (Post 2202958)

More speculation, but based on the information known so far. Witnesses stated that the deceased fired a handgun into the air while having a verbal altercation with the people in the car. Does that sound like a reasonable, responsible and rational person to be around? My life experiences have shown me that these types of people usually have a criminal record. It very well could be that the deceased had a felony conviction and is therefore not allowed to own or possess a firearm. Due to the fact that no firearm was found, possibly the Darwin Awardee tossed the gun before entering the restaurant because he knew that the police were called, and he didn't want to be caught with a gun. That would get him hard time in a federal prison.
The other alternative is that someone in the restaurant who knew him took the gun so it wouldn't be in the possession of the man who was shot and be charged with illegal possession had he lived.
A couple speculations that make more sense than he was reaching in his pocket for a cell phone to call the people in the car that he had the altercation with.

Originally Posted by Bilyclub (Post 2202974)

Wow, Applebee's is open to 1 AM during the week and 2 on the weekends ? Are they trying to upstage Maragarita Republic as the place for drunken foolishness after midnight?

Originally Posted by Bilyclub (Post 2202974)

Wow, Applebee's is open to 1 AM during the week and 2 on the weekends ? Are they trying to upstage Maragarita Republic as the place for drunken foolishness after midnight?

Originally Posted by Bilyclub (Post 2202974)

Wow, Applebee's is open to 1 AM during the week and 2 on the weekends ? Are they trying to upstage Maragarita Republic as the place for drunken foolishness after midnight?

Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 2203024)

There are people who work 2nd and 3rd shifts.

Midnight could be lunch or dinner.

Originally Posted by Number 10 GI (Post 2202958)

There has been some speculation that he was reaching in his pocket for a cell phone to call the people in the car that he had the altercation with.

Originally Posted by Rainger99 (Post 2203991)

There was a mob hit in Boston in the mid 90s.
There was a confrontation between two groups in a restaurant and suddenly one person stood up and began reaching toward his belt.

In one of the great lines in mob history, the gunman said, 'I know he ain't reachin' for no Bible.'

Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 2212177)

Anything new on this???

Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2196808)

I had tools worth $5,000 dollars stolen 5 years ago. That IS hard to put into the rearview mirror. And it is a KNOWN FACT that murders nationwide have increased in the last 3 years after the Pandemic. The US is NOT protecting its borders (both South and North ) from both criminal and perhaps non-criminal, BUT still illegal immigrants that I and no US citizen have ever gotten to vote about whether it should happen. It is also VERY OBSERVABLE that nationwide there is a vanishing middle-class, which is universally known to INCREASE potential crime. It is true that The Villages IS a UNIQUE wealthy bubble surrounded by have-nots. I am just trying to warn senior residents that future conditions seem poised to tend toward VIOLENCE.
.......Better to be WARNED and something NOT HAPPEN than something HAPPEN that a person is NOT prepared for.
.......As practical proof about the danger from increasing crime that real people here locally feel. I was just down to Rural King and the table of cartridges and shotgun shells was just about empty. 10 years ago it would have been filled. People realize that CRIME locally IS a BIG problem.