there is a range
 

on rt 44 just south of the villages, its called simply 'The Gun Shop and Gun Range'....catchy name! both handgun and rifle, indoor

Imho
 

Don't own a gun,
Don't plan to get one,
Would never force you to get one,

BUT......

I feel reassured that if at some point I feel I need to get one,
I have that right!!!

Thanks to the protectors of my rights!
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Rights On!

That's a good one!!!! Larry The Cable Guy came to mind immediately......

Gun threads always get big response. If you don't want one don't buy one. But don't tell those that do that you are right and they are wrong. What makes you an expert? Did you read a few newspapers? I think golf is silly, but I'm wasting my time telling most Villagers that they shouldn't golf, and why should I. What the hell do I care if they play golf? What the hell do you care if I chose to protect myself and my wife.

"It's better to own a gun and not need it than to need a gun and not have it"

Shrimpy says, "It's better to own a gun and not need it than to need a gun and not have it."

Well, Shrimpy, do you think it was better that the lady ex-police officer had a gun in the house when she mentally snapped and shot her husband while he was taking a shower? This happened just about 2 years ago in The Villages. There was a several hour standoff before she surrendered. She is now in prison.

Let's see buggyone, one shooting in the Villages since it has been established XXXX amount of years ago. There are more than that in New York City in one day and New York City/State have some of the strickest gun laws in the nation. Time to stop harping on the one shooting. No one will change your mind about guns, you are scared and will stay that way until you need someone to come protect you. Did you know that police officers have killed more innocent people in accidental shootings than CCW holders. Check the facts, get educated, I know that you believe in gun control, just change that to people control, just ask Stalin, Hitler and a few other of the dictators around the world how well gun control works for their citizens. Are you starting to get the picture yet? Just wondering.

I have a home in TV and one up north. I travel a good bit. You are deluding yourself if you think you are always in a safe area. But perhaps the real issue for you is guns in general, you are opposed to them so you support arguments that say you are less safe in your home if you have a gun etc. etc. NRA has run a column for as long as I can remember (50 years plus) that give real world examples of those that have saved the lives of themselves and their families by use of a firearm. I know that nothing I say will convince you to change your mind so I won't bore you anymore except to remind you that it is my right. You may want to consider that without the second amendment there would be no other rights.

Right on bro, the meek at heart are always against defense and protection until their skinny little necks are in jeopardy .
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Figmo,

You are a former military man. Therefore, I quote Col. Sherman T. Potter, "Meadow Muffins".

Conspiracy theorists are a dime a dozen. You have never lived in a safer place than The Villages. You are not on the Mexican border anymore with drug smugglers and rattlesnakes all around you just itching to smoke or bite you.

Take a chill pill and learn how to relax in this wonderful environment without strapping on your Tex Western gear.

'Nuff said. I am done with this topic.

I believe Vermont is a safer place than TV. I reiterate, there basically are no gun laws in Vermont. That's why it is safe. The bad guys have to assume that everybody has a gun. Anyway, I'm glad you're done with this topic because you're adding nothing but "Meadow Muffins" to it. buggygone!

Well put, George T

[quote=buggyone;400413]Figmo,

You are a former military man. Therefore, I quote Col. Sherman T. Potter, "Meadow Muffins".

Conspiracy theorists are a dime a dozen. You have never lived in a safer place than The Villages. You are not on the Mexican border anymore with drug smugglers and rattlesnakes all around you just itching to smoke or bite you.

Take a chill pill and learn how to relax in this wonderful environment without strapping on your Tex Western gear.

'Nuff said. I am done with this topic.[/quote]
I wish.

GeorgeT says he believes Vermont is a lot safer than The Villages. I challenge you, GeorgeT, to find a community in Vermont with a similar population to The Villages (approx. 65,000) with the same or lower violent crime rate according to FBI statistics.

Also, the reason I keep coming back to the female former police officer shooting her husband is that I do not know anymore recent violent crime in The Villages. If you know of any other, let me know.

I am not talking of Wildwood, Lady Lake, Fruitland Park, Leesburg, but in The Villages.

I also am not talking of keeping a handgun in your home. I am saying it is ridiculous to carry a concealed handgun while in The VIllages.

once again you show your ignorance. What does someone's age have to do with whether they should prepare themselves. In order to get their Florida permits they had to meet certain requirements and undergo certain training. They had to show at least a minimum proficiency.

You would take the guns away that something happened you would probably look up reading your hands and say isn't that a shame.

I'm sure that nobody with any gun would want to visit you in the first place and if they did they wouldn't tell you they were carrying a gun.


A gun in the hand is better than a cop on the phone.

what makes him think he is an expert is that he is a progressive. Progressive believe that they know everything about everything that we should have. If they don't know about it or don't have an opinion about it we definitely shouldn't have it. If they do know about it and have an opinion about it than we definitely shouldn't have.

This may not make sense to you but I believe that it makes sense to them, progressives that is.

. An armed man is a citizen. An unarmed man is a subject.

buggyone, to further educate you and inform you, TEXAS does not allow open carry. Can you believe that!!!!! Texas did for many years then changed their law to only allow concealed carry. There is a movement a foot to change it back to open carry but does not have a lot of political support so might not happen for a while. So I guess I can't strap on my Tex Western gear and take a chill pill, see I don't need one, but I would suggest that you take several.

Personally I don't like open carry. If you are not using the correct retention holster your firearm can be taken away from you. Just try taking a police officers pistol out of his holster, you are likely to remove his belt and pants before getting the weapon out of his holster. Besides, why would I want bad guys to know that I am armed. Best to just keep it secret, that is why its called concealed carry. Just my personal opinion, but where legal to carry open and if you decide you want to, its all right with me.

I didn't say a lot safer I said safer. Oh wait, you said in a previous post that you were done with this subject. Is this from another buggygone?

No, GeorgeT, it is the same buggyone. If you said that Vermont is "safer" than The Villages instead of "a lot safer", that is fine with me. I still challenge you to find a similar sized Vermont community (around 65,000) with the same or a lower FBI violent crime statistic than The Villages

Once again, I am not talking surrounding areas to The Villages.

Thank you.

Not that I suggest this is a offense that would justify a shooting (just in case anyone misunderstands this post) we recently had an incident on our block where someone went into a neighbor's yard and stole her brass nozzles and fittings. Why, who knows? They also tried to remove the electrical surge protector on the meter. That is not a good thing. This neighbor is not home all day, so we are not sure that made a difference.

I carry and I feel better for it
 

My ex shot me with a .38 and I spent 6 months in the hospital. He backed me in a corner. I was only 20 years old and lucky to be alive. Since then I have become very familiar with guns and have much respect for them. I am not afraid or cowering in a corner.

While living in Orlando and working for Pizza Hut, I was violently robbed twice. One gunman cocked the revolver back as it was pointed to my head. Since then I have gotten my CWL. I will not be a victim any longer. The bad people are out there, especially during the holidays. I remember what my boss told us at Pizza Hut, "Watch your back. Robbers have kids that need presents, too".

My hubby and I have several guns in our home, ready to go. I will not flash my gun to get a parking spot but if you jump me, I feel better being able to protect myself.

We both got our licenses at the gun range on State Road 44. They have classes there, usually monthly.

Very strange to say the least, Ladydoc. It would take an awful lot of brass nozzles to be worth anything as scrap metal.

I am not a talker so I do not post on forums; except this one and this topic. I am a resident of The Villages and I have a CWFL. I have read 7 pages of threats and insults to residents who choose to carry concealed. We will carry to protect ourselves and our families and also the "I'll turn you in so fast it will make your head spin" people. Two words come to mind 'home invasion'. Current court trial just ended in Cheshire, Connecticut. Great and safe neighborhood. Wife, two daughters dead. It doesn't take much for two or three down and out losers to plan a 'bust in the front door' just to rob the people at home and then have that escalate into something much more horrific. My outside storm/screen door is locked morning, afternoon and night. If the bell rings, I answer the door armed. Most homes in TV do not have outer doors. Very easy to push their way in and take control of you and your home. I refuse to be a victim or let my wife be a victim of some loser (s) out on a crime spree. For those of you who do not care for guns, that is your prerogative. Just keep in mind that concealed carry residents are the GG's not the BG's. We have had our training, we range shoot to keep up our skills and we have the cleanest of backgrounds. I, as well as many other license holders are Veterans. WE are NOT the bad Guy's.

Wow, Jack, is all I can say. The Villages is a safest place to live and you live in fear every day of home invasions. I can understand keeping your front door locked but certainly cannot understand being paranoid enough to come to the front door with your gun when the doorbell rings.

To my knowledge, the only home invasion that ever happened in The Villages was several years ago when a 19 year old was living at home and got mixed up with some drug dealers in Ocala. It was a drug deal gone bad and was not a random crime.

I actually feel pity for you and the fear you live in constantly. Your post tells me why you have a gun in your home but did not address my question of why is it necessary to carry a concealed weapon while in The Villages. Why do you feel that you have to be armed while out on a daily basis in The Villages? There has been no violent person on person crime on the streets that I know about. You certainly would not pull your gun on someone taking your golf bag from your cart.

Well said Jack. It doesn't matter where you live or how safe it is, there is always the potential for bad things to happen.

It is his right to have protection. Did you know that the Japanese could have invaded our country and land on our shores? When asked why they didn't, the Japanese high command said that there was too many people in the USA that are armed. I often wonder if the citizens of Cambodia, where millions were killed or imprisoned when we deserted them when we pulled out, would have fared better if they were armed.

An armed society is a polite society.

The newest crime is stealing metals, it adds up quickly. There are lots of scrap yards now. Copper wire, pipe, fittings, anything metal.

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I like this picture.

Would that be Photoshopped?

No. Found it on Yahoo.

Jim

Buggyone, Please no not pity me, understand me. I do not live in fear because I know I can protect myself and those I love. I go to my locked door armed as I carry with an ankle holster. You will never see it, don't worry, but if needed it is at the ready. As for carrying in TV, the squares are open to the public. That should answer your question. If a couple of loons want to try something on the night I am coming out of a late movie with my wife, I will have protection.
PS: I'm sure that family in Connecticut never thought it could happen to them.

How often does something like that happen? If she couldn't use a gun she'd have used a knive. Should we not own knives? I'm sure you wouldn't want to give up your kitchen knives because you can relate to them. I am certain you know little about guns. Guns are nothing but tools as are knives or hammers. It takes proper training to get proficient with them. If we follow your way of thinking we'd better give up our cars because we could die of a heart attack and kill several pedestrians.

buggyone, after some research, here is the law on that fellow that flashed his gun to get a parking spot. If the law was applied and it should have been, he is now doing 3 years mandatory sentence with NO chance of patrol. That is according to the Florida Statute on flashing even an unloaded firearm.

Thank you, Figmo, for your research. That person did have a Florida concealed weapon permit - and he still flashed his pistol as a "warning" to the other dude. You and the others have said all have taken classes and know what to do and yet one of the permit holders commits assault with a deadly weapon. Yes, he will go to prison but there are also others who might have gone further than he did and draw down on the other dude and actually shoot him over a parking space or stealing golf clubs from a cart or whatever.

What happened to the picture???

i still see it

Your interesting posts are quite revealing, Jack, but leave me with questions.

Do you "carry" in an ankle holster while in the house or do you strap it on when the doorbell rings?

Do you answer the door with weapon in hand?

Have you considered one of those peep hole things so you can see who is at the door?

If you use your weapon on a "couple of loons" while coming out of the theater what protection do other theater patrons have from stray bullets?

Do your friends know you meet them at the door with your weapon "ready"?

Should we enact laws on might haves?

Interesting this thread started as a question regarding shooting ranges and permits. The thread was hijacked early on. FWIW, I am a member of another forum that has a section entitled the gun enthusiast that discusses much of what has been said here but includes the caveat "no anti gun rants here". I am as much a defender of the 1st amendment as anyone you'll likely encounter. However, it would be nice to discuss these issues by those of us that are pro second amendment without having to filter out the "static" offered up by the antis. Just food for thought.

VillageGolfer, no where in my posts have I suggested that there should be laws against handgun ownership nor laws against carrying handguns with a proper permit.

I have stated only that it is ridiculous to carry a handgun in The Villages. I did state that I will be observant for illegal display of a gun in public but not accidental display.

I did ask if any of the gun carriers would use them against a thief they saw taking golf clubs from their cart and got no reply on that question.

I got no reply from the poster who claimed that Vermont was as safe as The Villages and that I would like to see comparable FBI violent crime statistics to back up his claim.

I did say that the only violent crime in the past 2 years I know of involved someone with a permit to carry a weapon...and an assault with deadly weapon charge against another person who flashed his gun for a parking space...and he also had a permit to carry. So much for the fallacy of all the permit carriers being good guys.

Anything else I can answer for you?