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Originally Posted by buggyone
(Post 400150)
Before Vinny edited his post last night, he had in it a reason he carries a weapon is because last Christmas time in The Villages a man flashed a concealed gun to get a parking space. The man had a permit and he still did that! He got arrested and charged with assault with a deadly weapon. He would have been a lot better off if he had not been packing heat!
The shooting 2 years ago was a retired police officer who had a pistol at home and shot her husband. No gun, no shooting - maybe a knife, but who knows?
As I said, if I ever see a person in a bar in The Villages having a drink and they have a pistol concealed, I am calling 911 right away. If I ever see a pistol when someone is talking with me and I feel threatened, I am calling 911.
'Nuff said.
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Before you waste a police officer's time you might want to read the concealed carry laws in Florida. You can drink and carry a gun in Florida. No law against it. The law does not allow you to carry in a bar or in the bar area of a restaurant. Says nothing about not drinking. It is perfectly legal to sit down at a table in a resturant and eat and drink. Despite this you would be truly amazed at the very low percentage of gun problems caused by licensed concealed carriers.
Doctors kill over 200,000 people a year compared to 13,000 gun deaths and yet no one wants to ban doctors. The reason is that they save many more lives than they take. The same is true of guns and all it takes is a desire to ferret out the truth to learn that. Your logic also escapes me. No car - no car accidents. Let's ban cars to solve the car accident problem rather then deal with the root causes.
You obviously like your first amendment rights. I also like that amendment and the second one too. Just please do not let your fears infringe on my rights. The new law about accidental showing of your concealed gun was to protect us from overzealous people. The kind one typically finds who turns in their neighbor for putting a single gnome on their lawn. The law is very strict. 3 year mandatory prison term with no parole allowed for showing a concealed carry gun in a rude, careless or angry manner. At least now we are not making felons out of good people due to a gust of wind and an anti gun activist eager to turn them in.
In case you missed them, here are just a few articles I know of about concealed carry holders defending themselves. Nationwide 13 accredited surveys showed that there was between 800,000 and 2.5 million incidents of a civilian using a gun for self defense per year. You never read about that though. Only the accidental, or more properly called, negligent discharges of weapons by people unfamiliar with the basic safety rules for gun handling or mass shootings in schools by bad guys who disregarded all the no gun signs and laws. Unfortunately the victims of these shooters obeyed the laws anti gun people favor and were defenseless to shoot back. By now with so many people with guns you would think schools would at least teach gun safety the same way they teach sex ed, drugs, internet safety, etc. Guns do not just go off. Some has to be careless and squeeze the trigger while loaded and totally ignore all the features that let you know that the gun is loaded. Any way here is just three I know of off the top of my head:
St Petersburg, FL – Retired banker Hall Palmer heard a noise and got up to investigate. As soon as he opened the door, the 70-year-old was face-to-face with a man dressed in all black and armed with a pistol. The suspect ordered Palmer to sit on the bed. He wanted the PIN for a bank card he’d found downstairs. Palmer said the card was expired, but he could give him some money. The suspect bound Palmer’s hands with twine, led him downstairs and found his billfold. The suspect then bound Palmer’s feet, gagged his mouth and went outside. But he’d underestimated his victim. Palmer wriggled free and retrieved his late father’s .38-cal. Colt Army Special revolver. When the suspect returned, Palmer fired a shot, causing him to flee. The suspect had been carrying a pillow; Palmer wonders if it was intended to muffle the sound of his execution. , The Armed Citizen/St. Petersburg Times, 01/20/2011
Lakeland FL – Denard Joe was stopped in his car at an intersection when a man wearing a red bandana tapped on the window and pointed a gun at him. Joe, a Florida concealed weapons permit holder, drew a handgun and opened fire through the window, striking his assailant twice in the chest. The carjacker, who had just been released from prison, ran a short distance and died. – The Armed Citizen/Lakeland Ledger, 04/06/2011
Daytona Beach, FL – Charles Place was walking in a restaurant parking lot when a man snuck up behind him, grabbed him and reached for his wallet. Unfortunately for the suspect, the 83-year-old man was in no mood to become a victim. Police said he resisted and was knocked to the ground. That’s when Place drew his .25-cal. semi-automatic handgun, for which he has a permit to carry. He showed his assailant the gun and demanded to be left alone. The suspect fled but was followed by a witness who helped police make the arrest. The Armed Citizen/Daytona Beach News Journal, 09/26/10
Personally I was surrounded by three drugged out men many years ago with broken bottles and a tire iron in the parking lot of my office building demanding money. A very safe place I thought but I always went armed so I merely showed my gun and they left quickly. Had I not been armed because it was a safe place it would not have turned out well for me as they were high on something that made them mean.
It happens a lot but we just do not read about it much. And remember that good people do not want to kill. It is a difficult thing to do and if you were one of the many brave men who fought in combat you would know this. We carry guns because we refuse to be victims. In this world there are sheep and sheep dogs and I'd rather protect the herd than wait to be slaughtered.
