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Lottoguy 05-10-2024 08:53 AM

Some tips for you: Third lane now being installed on the Florida Turnpike. The road noise will then increase. Don't buy near the pickleball courts. That sound will drive you nuts. Avoid homes unless you have a pool that face south. That sun produces lots of heat on the lanai. Try and get a Villages that has access and exit via a stop sign, roundabout or stop light. During the winter when its busy you could have a hard time getting on the main road. Just ask the people who can't pull out and make a left on Morris just north of 466. More shopping is located in the north parts of The Villages.

Burgy 05-10-2024 10:48 AM

Think twice about a big corner lot and how far you might want to be from mail, main road, pool

thelegges 05-10-2024 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Lottoguy (Post 2330188)
Some tips for you: Third lane now being installed on the Florida Turnpike. The road noise will then increase. Don't buy near the pickleball courts. That sound will drive you nuts. Avoid homes unless you have a pool that face south. That sun produces lots of heat on the lanai. Try and get a Villages that has access and exit via a stop sign, roundabout or stop light. During the winter when its busy you could have a hard time getting on the main road. Just ask the people who can't pull out and make a left on Morris just north of 466. More shopping is located in the north parts of The Villages.

Actually pike is going from 4 lanes to 8 lanes

MplsPete 05-10-2024 12:59 PM

Sorry I was not clear.
 
I never intended this to be about power lines, turnpike noise, etc., but thanks for those comments.

On May 10, 2024, in a letter to the editor of a newspaper of TV, a resident of Caroline wrote about needing a fence, "... we do not want strangers to come into our private yard." They also spoke of "three fatalities" behind their home, and although this sounds like a traffic issue, who knows?

Okay, there's an area to avoid, no?

VApeople 05-10-2024 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Lottoguy (Post 2330188)
Just ask the people who can't pull out and make a left on Morse just north of 466.

Yeah, we were warned about that in 2016. We definitely avoided having a house that would require us to turn left on Morse north of 466.

Bwanajim 05-10-2024 02:33 PM

I back up to small Swamp & turnpike. The noise really doesn’t bother me, it becomes background noise. I’m heard of hearing anyway. lol
I needed a big yard & a fence.
I’m fine with it

tophcfa 05-10-2024 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by VApeople (Post 2330263)
Yeah, we were warned about that in 2016. We definitely avoided having a house that would require us to turn left on Morse north of 466.

We have to, but it’s no big deal, there’s a traffic light where the entrance to our Village crosses Morse. Pulling out of our postal station can be a bitch, which is why I always get the mail at night when the traffic is very light.

jimjamuser 05-10-2024 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by MplsPete (Post 2329943)
Everyone from a big city knows, there are some places you avoid, and some places you don't want to live; some are even nice areas, but they are close to not so nice areas.

While I understand there's probably nothing bad within TV, I am concerned about surrounding areas. Even bubbles have edges.

I assume that around the edges, crime leaks in.

jimjamuser 05-10-2024 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by dtennent (Post 2329950)
I would worry less about the edges of the bubble than the noise coming from nearby highways, cart paths, pickleball courts, etc. Before buying, take some time in front and back yards and listen to the background noise. Lawnmowers, power washers can be heard anywhere. Having played golf on Southern Oaks, I would hate to live that close to the turnpike.

As far a NOISE in TV Land goes, I think that the most consistent noise comes from Commercial lawnmowers and then GASOLINE golf carts. Replace those with Electric mowers and E-carts and we could enjoy a nice QUIET TV Land.

VApeople 05-10-2024 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2330287)
Replace those with Electric mowers and E-carts and we could enjoy a nice QUIET TV Land.

I bet the brave people who have the courage to walk on an MMP much prefer the noisy gas-powered golf carts because they can hear them coming.

tophcfa 05-10-2024 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by VApeople (Post 2330291)
I bet the brave people who have the courage to walk on an MMP much prefer the noisy gas-powered golf carts because they can hear them coming.

Yup, my older brother is blind and he hates electric vehicles. He would have been run down more than once if it wasn’t for his wonderful guide dog.

tophcfa 05-10-2024 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2330287)
As far a NOISE in TV Land goes, I think that the most consistent noise comes from Commercial lawnmowers and then GASOLINE golf carts. Replace those with Electric mowers and E-carts and we could enjoy a nice QUIET TV Land.

Somehow I knew that post was coming before it even appeared?

Shipping up to Boston 05-10-2024 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 2330295)
Somehow I knew that post was coming before it even appeared?

I often have no fracking idea what he's talking about!

tophcfa 05-10-2024 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Shipping up to Boston (Post 2330296)
I often have no fracking idea what he's talking about!

The sad part is that he doesn’t either.

Normal 05-10-2024 04:36 PM

Villages Crime Rate Orange Blossom
 
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Originally Posted by vintageogauge (Post 2329947)
There are "bad edges" everywhere in Florida. Once living in the state you will know where not to venture. All of the villages within TV are safe. You can easily look up crime statistics for all of the surrounding communities.

Orange Blossom should be avoided. They are talking about putting up a wall between it and the apartments complex going up.

Quote from latest article…” In 2023, a Griffin Road resident and several neighbors who reside along Tarrson Boulevard, voiced safety and security concerns regarding the approved apartment complex that will be constructed in the wooded area across from their properties on Griffin Avenue on the Historic Side of The Villages. Residents said it is a high traffic area with safety concerns, adding that there have been multiple thefts that neighbors currently feel very exposed with just a four-board wooden fence barrier.”
https://www.**************.com/2024/...tment-complex/

Another “edge” I would avoid is the southern border of Lake Deaton. 44A is ripe for more than one project and there is still the largest pickleball court in the area with 4 story hotel that will be going in.

Shipping up to Boston 05-10-2024 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Normal (Post 2330305)
Orange Blossom should be avoided. They are talking about putting up a wall between it and the apartments complex going up.

Quote from latest article…” In 2023, a Griffin Road resident and several neighbors who reside along Tarrson Boulevard, voiced safety and security concerns regarding the approved apartment complex that will be constructed in the wooded area across from their properties on Griffin Avenue on the Historic Side of The Villages. Residents said it is a high traffic area with safety concerns, adding that there have been multiple thefts that neighbors currently feel very exposed with just a four-board wooden fence barrier.”
https://www.**************.com/2024/...tment-complex/

Normal.....i like your posts and your intelligence. This one is super selective. Should the people that live in the Village where Mr Savage pounded out his gf in the driveway...on a Ring camera (video that was posted/commented on here)....should that be avoided as well? I can cherry pick the crime logs too. The Historic District (OB) is a nice neighborhood. What you're referring to with 'the wall' is probably a Karen/Darren proposal. Those 'crimes' don't rise to a Berlin Wall type response. But since all we talk about is bushes, walls and fences between our properties and our neighbors....why should the OB residents do any less. There...i came full circle!

margaretmattson 05-10-2024 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by MplsPete (Post 2330261)
I never intended this to be about power lines, turnpike noise, etc., but thanks for those comments.

On May 10, 2024, in a letter to the editor of a newspaper of TV, a resident of Caroline wrote about needing a fence, "... we do not want strangers to come into our private yard." They also spoke of "three fatalities" behind their home, and although this sounds like a traffic issue, who knows?

Okay, there's an area to avoid, no?

Several apartment buildings have been built and several more to come. This means a constant flow of transients coming and going. When purchasing a home, pay attention to your surroundings. If you sense an area may be troublesome, stay away! It only takes one or a few to bring havoc to your neighborhood. Remember: The Villages is not a gated community. Anyone can get in or out at any time of the day.

Having said that, there hasn't been much crime in the Villages. But, this doesn't mean you shouldn't keep your guard up. Again, if you feel uncomfortable in an area, STAY AWAY! There are plenty of homes on the market to choose from.

margaretmattson 05-10-2024 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Shipping up to Boston (Post 2330307)
Normal.....i like your posts and your intelligence. This one is super selective. Should the people that live in the Village where Mr Savage pounded out his gf in the driveway...on a Ring camera (video that was posted/commented on here)....should that be avoided as well? I can cherry pick the crime logs too. The Historic District (OB) is a nice neighborhood. What you're referring to with 'the wall' is probably a Karen/Darren proposal. Those 'crimes' don't rise to a Berlin Wall type response. But since all we talk about is bushes, walls and fences between our properties and our neighbors....why should the OB residents do any less. There...i came full circle!

What the heck is a Darren? I volunteer in a youth organization and was given the definition of a Karen by the kids. "Anyone only CARIN' about their own comfort." This could be male or female. I never heard of a Darren. Is this something new?

Shipping up to Boston 05-10-2024 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by margaretmattson (Post 2330313)
What the heck is a Darren? I volunteer in a youth organization and was given the definition of a Karen by the kids. "Anyone only CARIN' about their own comfort." This could be male or female. I never heard of a Darren. Is this something new?

Not new.
The kids calling you that is not an endearing term. Just sayin'!

margaretmattson 05-10-2024 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Shipping up to Boston (Post 2330315)
Not new.
The kids calling you that is not an endearing term. Just sayin'!

Huh? They didn't call me a Karen. I heard it used several ways so I asked the kids what the true meaning was and why it is called a Karen.

I was told. "Anyone who is only CARIN' about their own comfort." Get it? Caring too much about themselves with little regard for others. Karen! A different spelling for Caring. This could be male or female.

In this instance, a group of people concerned about their safety and would like to replace their fence with a stronger fence is not a karen. A KAREN would want a large fence erected around the entire apartment complex so not to be inconvenienced.

Back to my question. What is a Darren? A daring person? As in, he was DARIN' when he should of kept his mouth shout? Seriously, this is the first time I heard of a Darren. (I guess I will have to ask the kids. Lol. I'm just a granny who is not hip to the new lingo)

Djean1981 05-10-2024 07:58 PM

Correct. If you live anywhere near a multimodal path you will hear (and smell) gas golf carts going by all day long..

Ele201 05-11-2024 04:57 AM

It’s safe here !
 
I’m going to keep this short: The Villages are safe. That’s a key reason people like myself came to live here. I spent almost my entire adult life in Manhattan, so I know big cities. TV is like living in a “bubble.” I really don’t know of an unsafe Village or area of TV.

RICH1 05-11-2024 05:51 AM

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Originally Posted by MplsPete (Post 2329943)
Everyone from a big city knows, there are some places you avoid, and some places you don't want to live; some are even nice areas, but they are close to not so nice areas.

While I understand there's probably nothing bad within TV, I am concerned about surrounding areas. Even bubbles have edges.

ALL , avoid them all

coleprice 05-11-2024 06:42 AM

Golfers shopping for homes in The Villages should NOT purchase a New Home in the Southern Areas, which lack enough Executive Golf Courses. Rather, they should buy a pre-owned home in the Middle or Northern areas which have plenty of Executive golf courses nearby. Also, the Bond is usually paid off on homes in the North and Middle areas, plus you are MUCH CLOSER to Shopping & Restaurants.

Marathon Man 05-11-2024 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by coleprice (Post 2330364)
Golfers shopping for homes in The Villages should NOT purchase a New Home in the Southern Areas, which lack enough Executive Golf Courses. Rather, they should buy a pre-owned home in the Middle or Northern areas which have plenty of Executive golf courses nearby. Also, the Bond is usually paid off on homes in the North and Middle areas, plus you are MUCH CLOSER to Shopping & Restaurants.

We live south of 44. We rarely have trouble getting a tee time in the execs. We have more trouble getting onto Southern Oaks. It is terrific shape. I have played with several golfers who came down from the north to play it because of its condition.

And, more importantly - Many of the courses further north are in terrible condition. The five execs south of 44 are all the great shape. Also, additional courses are being constructed right now.

Golf is great in the south, and it is going to be even better soon. That is from someone who actually plays here.

Randall55 05-11-2024 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Marathon Man (Post 2330368)
We live south of 44. We rarely have trouble getting a tee time in the execs. We have more trouble getting onto Southern Oaks. It is terrific shape. I have played with several golfers who came down from the north to play it because of its condition.

And, more importantly - Many of the courses further north are in terrible condition. The five execs south of 44 are all the great shape. Also, additional courses are being constructed right now.

Golf is great in the south, and it is going to be even better soon. That is from someone who actually plays here.

One would expect new golf courses to be in great shape.We can only hope they remain that way.

OrangeBlossomBaby 05-11-2024 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by MplsPete (Post 2330261)
I never intended this to be about power lines, turnpike noise, etc., but thanks for those comments.

On May 10, 2024, in a letter to the editor of a newspaper of TV, a resident of Caroline wrote about needing a fence, "... we do not want strangers to come into our private yard." They also spoke of "three fatalities" behind their home, and although this sounds like a traffic issue, who knows?

Okay, there's an area to avoid, no?

It's BEHIND their house, on a public road, separated by fencing and bushes/trees/shrubs. Just like any house in any suburban neighborhood that backs to a secondary road (it's not a main street like 441 or 466, it's a secondary road, like Griffin or Rolling Acres).

Strangers aren't going into their back yard. The homeowners are just overly paranoid, think that THEIR house is more worth bad people coming to trespass than their neighbors' houses (who obviously aren't obsessed with that kind of fear since they're fine with their short fences and shrubs). They're fixing a problem that doesn't exist, and are upset because the CDD won't pay for it.

This is a community of old people. At some point, someone will die on YOUR block. Are you going to then complain that it's not a safe neighborhood because there's already been a death on your own block? That's what's happening with the people in Caroline. They're just spinning things to justify their obsession. There might have been 3 deaths on a secondary road, which stretches a couple of miles long, that is /not/ in The Villages. I don't know if that's true or not. It's certainly possible. But where that homeowner lives, there is no entrance to her neighborhood from that secondary road. And if she just stopped drawing SO MUCH ATTENTION to her property by barricading it with high dark blockade walls and "K-9 Protection" signs all over the walls, maybe people would stop wondering what she's hiding behind those walls that she needs to make such a huge fuss about it.

THAT is what will attract the burglars. She's putting a target on her back yard, and then whining about being worried about being robbed.

Pachine58 05-11-2024 08:28 AM

Go get the app for your phone called spotcrime. It shows you in real time the areas that have crime issues. Biggest problem I see here is people who should not be driving because of loss of ability and people who drink and get behind the wheel.

Shipping up to Boston 05-11-2024 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2330395)
It's BEHIND their house, on a public road, separated by fencing and bushes/trees/shrubs. Just like any house in any suburban neighborhood that backs to a secondary road (it's not a main street like 441 or 466, it's a secondary road, like Griffin or Rolling Acres).

Strangers aren't going into their back yard. The homeowners are just overly paranoid, think that THEIR house is more worth bad people coming to trespass than their neighbors' houses (who obviously aren't obsessed with that kind of fear since they're fine with their short fences and shrubs). They're fixing a problem that doesn't exist, and are upset because the CDD won't pay for it.

This is a community of old people. At some point, someone will die on YOUR block. Are you going to then complain that it's not a safe neighborhood because there's already been a death on your own block? That's what's happening with the people in Caroline. They're just spinning things to justify their obsession. There might have been 3 deaths on a secondary road, which stretches a couple of miles long, that is /not/ in The Villages. I don't know if that's true or not. It's certainly possible. But where that homeowner lives, there is no entrance to her neighborhood from that secondary road. And if she just stopped drawing SO MUCH ATTENTION to her property by barricading it with high dark blockade walls and "K-9 Protection" signs all over the walls, maybe people would stop wondering what she's hiding behind those walls that she needs to make such a huge fuss about it.

THAT is what will attract the burglars. She's putting a target on her back yard, and then whining about being worried about being robbed.

@margaretmattson.....this scenario, coupled with my post....is a perfect example of what MY interpretation is of a Karen and/or Darren. It’s ambiguous and open to many other uses....this is mine

margaretmattson 05-11-2024 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Shipping up to Boston (Post 2330407)
@margaretmattson.....this scenario, coupled with my post....is a perfect example of what MY interpretation is of a Karen and/or Darren. It’s ambiguous and open to many other uses....this is mine

I understood your interpretation and was not questioning your opinion. My question was "what is a Darren?" I never heard of it. Reading between the lines, I now think you have two names for the same thing. Karen is female and a Darren is the male version. You are the first I have seen do this. In my circle, a Karen does not need another name. It is ANYONE (male, female, or child) who cares only about themselves and their comfort level. They often whine and lambast when they do not get their way. Sorry, I wasn't belittling you. Just curious as to the meaning of a Darren. And, if I need to be on the lookout for one! lol

harby 05-11-2024 12:49 PM

village area to avoid?
 
After we moved 3 times (looking for a larger house) in TV and this is our last one(!), we r gladly living in Polo Ridge no matter how old it is, it s very much enjoyable and easy to drive and shop nearby (right by 466)...easy to get the hospital, Lowe's, Cracker Barrel, etc. with only one roundabout and without auto traffic jams from snowbirds or new below 466A residents and many roundabouts. North of 466 is ideal to live and accessible to shop nearby and very peaceful. Unless you just want a brand new house, fyi, many flooring arrangements/models are very similar to the old ones in TV. Chas

jimjamuser 05-11-2024 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Djean1981 (Post 2330331)
Correct. If you live anywhere near a multimodal path you will hear (and smell) gas golf carts going by all day long..

I agree with the noise (AND SMELL) of gasoline golf carts. Older people have more lung problems like asthma.

jimjamuser 05-11-2024 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2330395)
It's BEHIND their house, on a public road, separated by fencing and bushes/trees/shrubs. Just like any house in any suburban neighborhood that backs to a secondary road (it's not a main street like 441 or 466, it's a secondary road, like Griffin or Rolling Acres).

Strangers aren't going into their back yard. The homeowners are just overly paranoid, think that THEIR house is more worth bad people coming to trespass than their neighbors' houses (who obviously aren't obsessed with that kind of fear since they're fine with their short fences and shrubs). They're fixing a problem that doesn't exist, and are upset because the CDD won't pay for it.

This is a community of old people. At some point, someone will die on YOUR block. Are you going to then complain that it's not a safe neighborhood because there's already been a death on your own block? That's what's happening with the people in Caroline. They're just spinning things to justify their obsession. There might have been 3 deaths on a secondary road, which stretches a couple of miles long, that is /not/ in The Villages. I don't know if that's true or not. It's certainly possible. But where that homeowner lives, there is no entrance to her neighborhood from that secondary road. And if she just stopped drawing SO MUCH ATTENTION to her property by barricading it with high dark blockade walls and "K-9 Protection" signs all over the walls, maybe people would stop wondering what she's hiding behind those walls that she needs to make such a huge fuss about it.

THAT is what will attract the burglars. She's putting a target on her back yard, and then whining about being worried about being robbed.

I was robbed 10 years ago in the pre-Historic section. It was a break in while we were away and about $2,000 worth of power tools were taken. The Police did ZERO as far as results were concerned. I see very few Police patrols and the Community Service just wastes gasoline and would be better riding E-bikes around so they might actually see something.
------Overall, I can see why some people are anxious about their security here. They have some reason for it. And as the "Haves" get closer to the "HAVE NOTS" in the future, I would expect more incidents.

jimjamuser 05-11-2024 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by VApeople (Post 2330291)
I bet the brave people who have the courage to walk on an MMP much prefer the noisy gas-powered golf carts because they can hear them coming.

Many people here have such BAD hearing that a Railroad engine could sneak up on them while they were walking. Most bicycles and golf carts have horns.

jimjamuser 05-11-2024 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Shipping up to Boston (Post 2330296)
I often have no fracking idea what he's talking about!

Correct, me neither. He be very confused, but NOT us.

VApeople 05-11-2024 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2330494)
Most bicycles and golf carts have horns.

From my experience on the walking/biking trails, many bikers do not use their horns to warn us walkers.

I have no idea about the people driving golf carts because I never walk on a road or path that allows golf carts.

coffeebean 05-11-2024 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by harby (Post 2330474)
After we moved 3 times (looking for a larger house) in TV and this is our last one(!), we r gladly living in Polo Ridge no matter how old it is, it s very much enjoyable and easy to drive and shop nearby (right by 466)...easy to get the hospital, Lowe's, Cracker Barrel, etc. with only one roundabout and without auto traffic jams from snowbirds or new below 466A residents and many roundabouts. North of 466 is ideal to live and accessible to shop nearby and very peaceful. Unless you just want a brand new house, fyi, many flooring arrangements/models are very similar to the old ones in TV. Chas

Many floor plans in the new homes are the same as the older villages models, just with different names. Same models have different names depending on if they are block construction vs vinyl siding construction. That is true in the older village homes between the 66s.

coffeebean 05-11-2024 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2330486)
I agree with the noise (AND SMELL) of gasoline golf carts. Older people have more lung problems like asthma.

I find driving behind a gas cart in a tunnel is not pleasant. Besides the heightened noise level of the cart, the smell of gas is strongest to me.

OrangeBlossomBaby 05-11-2024 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by VApeople (Post 2330496)
From my experience on the walking/biking trails, many bikers do not use their horns to warn us walkers.

I have no idea about the people driving golf carts because I never walk on a road or path that allows golf carts.

I don't have a horn on my bike. But I'm not shy about yelling REALLY LOUDLY if I need to alert someone to avoid a collision or other emergency. I have a strong "outside" voice.

JMintzer 05-11-2024 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2330034)
True but who wants to be on top of a power line

Most building is done UNDER the power lines, so there's that... ;)


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