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lapkaz 09-07-2015 11:00 AM

Guess you have driven your golf cart on the paths during a bad rain storm and at nite. Buena Vista is terrible between Arnold Palmer and Lake Miorna rec. center.

billethkid 09-07-2015 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lapkaz (Post 1110293)
Guess you have driven your golf cart on the paths during a bad rain storm and at nite. Buena Vista is terrible between Arnold Palmer and Lake Miorna rec. center.

Not sure what this message is?

Marathon Man 09-07-2015 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lapkaz (Post 1110293)
Guess you have driven your golf cart on the paths during a bad rain storm and at nite. Buena Vista is terrible between Arnold Palmer and Lake Miorna rec. center.

Thank you. I will avoid that area at night when it is raining.

foxmeadow 09-07-2015 02:04 PM

Striping in Dist 8
 
[QUOTE=PennBF;1108779]I read that CDD 8 had the courage to go ahead and vote it in for their District. Like it or not you have to give them credit for taking action on something they want and the Village's District Management did not want them to have. Actually if we are being clear we could say the people who live outside The Village's did not want them to have./QUOTE]

I agree with you on one item:
1. The 3 Directors who voted to do it, without input from residents, are tied
to the POA (2 as former directors and 1 currently on the POA board) who
is on record as desiring to stripe. It appears the sole reason is to oppose
"Villages District Management", not the so called resident support.

2. COURAGE???
Audacity is a better word to describe these actions. I live in this District
and no one I have spoken with believe it is necessary. The residents feel
they never had input and the "Rogue" Directors have their own agenda,
which conflicts with their duties to represent the majority.

Most likely, if "Village Management" had decided to go ahead with striping,
the POA and the 3 Rogue directors would have been against it.
This waste of money and time will correct NOTHING.
There have been NO accidents of record, after dark, as a result of not seeing the edge of the MM path (NONE.)

Callaway Guy 09-07-2015 02:27 PM

[QUOTE=foxmeadow;1110465]
Quote:

Originally Posted by PennBF (Post 1108779)
I read that CDD 8 had the courage to go ahead and vote it in for their District. Like it or not you have to give them credit for taking action on something they want and the Village's District Management did not want them to have. Actually if we are being clear we could say the people who live outside The Village's did not want them to have./QUOTE]

I agree with you on one item:
1. The 3 Directors who voted to do it, without input from residents, are tied
to the POA (2 as former directors and 1 currently on the POA board) who
is on record as desiring to stripe. It appears the sole reason is to oppose
"Villages District Management", not the so called resident support.

2. COURAGE???
Audacity is a better word to describe these actions. I live in this District
and no one I have spoken with believe it is necessary. The residents feel
they never had input and the "Rogue" Directors have their own agenda,
which conflicts with their duties to represent the majority.

Most likely, if "Village Management" had decided to go ahead with striping,
the POA and the 3 Rogue directors would have been against it.
This waste of money and time will correct NOTHING.
There have been NO accidents of record, after dark, as a result of not seeing the edge of the MM path (NONE.)

:bigbow::agree: An incredible total waste of money and abuse of authority.

billethkid 09-07-2015 04:13 PM

Isn't there an issue of the so called "representatives" not following the desires of their constituency?

Does this have a familiar ring to it?

Mleeja 09-07-2015 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billethkid (Post 1110573)
Isn't there an issue of the so called "representatives" not following the desires of their constituency?

Does this have a familiar ring to it?

Posters on this site sure does not constitute a "majority" for the district. It could very well be the "silent majority" have expressed their wishes in a different manner. If the poll conducted by the POA is accurate, the majority want some type of striping on the MMPs.

Philip Winkler 09-09-2015 10:25 AM

FYI, Here is Supervisor Dennis Hayes reply to my recent email opposing striping in CDD8:

I want to thank you for taking the time to contact me and for expressing your opinion about the vote by 3 members of our District #8 Board last Thursday afternoon.

The action by Supervisors Sal Torname, Victor Ray and Ray Banks to move ahead and add edge-striping to our multi-modal paths was taken, in my opinion, in spite of the lack of demonstrated need, without regard to the recommendation of our Engineer, and in total disregard for the strong desire by other Districts for consistency across The Villages. As a result, only District #8 funds will be used to pay for the striping instead of Project-wide funds. Further, if there is an accident on the multi-modal path attributable to the striping, the action to ignore the recommendation of our Engineer could make District #8 solely liable in the event of a lawsuit. It goes without saying that I totally agree with your position and my record demonstrates that I have recommended against and voted against striping on numerous occasions..

I am strongly suggesting to everyone who opposes the vote that was taken on Thursday, Sept. 3rd that they attend our next regularly scheduled District #8 Board meeting at the Lake Miona Rec Center at 11:30 am on Friday morning, October 16th and voice your opposition to the vote to stripe. It is apparent from their literature that the Property Owners Assoc. (POA) thinks that the majority of residents want striping. I, like you, disagree with that position and I believe that most residents of District #8 oppose it also. Residents need to loudly voice their opinion.

I think, perhaps, one of the most effective ways residents have to reverse the action of the Board is to submit signed petitions in sizable numbers of those opposed to the vote. I have attached a suggested format for a petition for your consideration. If you are interested in pursuing this course of action, please contact me. I can provide additional information.

I am also suggesting that you encourage all of your friends and neighbors who live within District #8 to write to their Board and to the Daily Sun expressing their opinion. If this issue matters to them, it is time to be more than silent.

I am not sure that you are aware that the three supervisors who voted for this striping have been or currently are all affiliated with the Property Owners Assoc. Two were former Directors of the POA who resigned their position when elected last November. The other is still currently a Director. It is a concern to me that a block vote by these three supervisors could be interpreted as promoting the POA's agenda in utter disregard to the best interest of District #8 residents.

Thank you for your support,
Dennis Hayes
Supervisor for District #8 &
Member of the Project-wide Advisory Committee (PWAC)

Villageswimmer 09-10-2015 05:02 PM

Striping ...CDD 8 residents take note! Attend meeting!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Philip Winkler (Post 1111403)
FYI, Here is Supervisor Dennis Hayes reply to my recent email opposing striping in CDD8:

I want to thank you for taking the time to contact me and for expressing your opinion about the vote by 3 members of our District #8 Board last Thursday afternoon.

The action by Supervisors Sal Torname, Victor Ray and Ray Banks to move ahead and add edge-striping to our multi-modal paths was taken, in my opinion, in spite of the lack of demonstrated need, without regard to the recommendation of our Engineer, and in total disregard for the strong desire by other Districts for consistency across The Villages. As a result, only District #8 funds will be used to pay for the striping instead of Project-wide funds. Further, if there is an accident on the multi-modal path attributable to the striping, the action to ignore the recommendation of our Engineer could make District #8 solely liable in the event of a lawsuit. It goes without saying that I totally agree with your position and my record demonstrates that I have recommended against and voted against striping on numerous occasions..

I am strongly suggesting to everyone who opposes the vote that was taken on Thursday, Sept. 3rd that they attend our next regularly scheduled District #8 Board meeting at the Lake Miona Rec Center at 11:30 am on Friday morning, October 16th and voice your opposition to the vote to stripe. It is apparent from their literature that the Property Owners Assoc. (POA) thinks that the majority of residents want striping. I, like you, disagree with that position and I believe that most residents of District #8 oppose it also. Residents need to loudly voice their opinion.

I think, perhaps, one of the most effective ways residents have to reverse the action of the Board is to submit signed petitions in sizable numbers of those opposed to the vote. I have attached a suggested format for a petition for your consideration. If you are interested in pursuing this course of action, please contact me. I can provide additional information.

I am also suggesting that you encourage all of your friends and neighbors who live within District #8 to write to their Board and to the Daily Sun expressing their opinion. If this issue matters to them, it is time to be more than silent.

I am not sure that you are aware that the three supervisors who voted for this striping have been or currently are all affiliated with the Property Owners Assoc. Two were former Directors of the POA who resigned their position when elected last November. The other is still currently a Director. It is a concern to me that a block vote by these three supervisors could be interpreted as promoting the POA's agenda in utter disregard to the best interest of District #8 residents.

Thank you for your support,
Dennis Hayes
Supervisor for District #8 &
Member of the Project-wide Advisory Committee (PWAC)

Important info. Meeting 10/16 @ 11:30 Lake Miona Rec Ctr

memason 09-10-2015 05:56 PM

when I read this, the first thing that popped into my mind was that he threw his fellow board members under the bus.

If these board members can't make simple decisions, such as striping the path or not, perhaps they should not be board members.

I live in District 8 and none of these guys will be getting my future vote.

By the way, I do believe something needs to be done to the MMP's to make them a bit more friendly to drive in darkness.

JayDo 09-10-2015 06:08 PM

Just wait till someone runs off the path and states that part of the line was covered up with leaves or somthing and sues district 8

buzzy 09-10-2015 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Philip Winkler (Post 1111403)
FYI, Here is Supervisor Dennis Hayes reply to my recent email opposing striping in CDD8:

I want to thank you for taking the time to contact me and for expressing your opinion about the vote by 3 members of our District #8 Board last Thursday afternoon.

The action by Supervisors Sal Torname, Victor Ray and Ray Banks to move ahead and add edge-striping to our multi-modal paths was taken, in my opinion, in spite of the lack of demonstrated need, without regard to the recommendation of our Engineer, and in total disregard for the strong desire by other Districts for consistency across The Villages. As a result, only District #8 funds will be used to pay for the striping instead of Project-wide funds. Further, if there is an accident on the multi-modal path attributable to the striping, the action to ignore the recommendation of our Engineer could make District #8 solely liable in the event of a lawsuit. It goes without saying that I totally agree with your position and my record demonstrates that I have recommended against and voted against striping on numerous occasions..

I am strongly suggesting to everyone who opposes the vote that was taken on Thursday, Sept. 3rd that they attend our next regularly scheduled District #8 Board meeting at the Lake Miona Rec Center at 11:30 am on Friday morning, October 16th and voice your opposition to the vote to stripe. It is apparent from their literature that the Property Owners Assoc. (POA) thinks that the majority of residents want striping. I, like you, disagree with that position and I believe that most residents of District #8 oppose it also. Residents need to loudly voice their opinion.

I think, perhaps, one of the most effective ways residents have to reverse the action of the Board is to submit signed petitions in sizable numbers of those opposed to the vote. I have attached a suggested format for a petition for your consideration. If you are interested in pursuing this course of action, please contact me. I can provide additional information.

I am also suggesting that you encourage all of your friends and neighbors who live within District #8 to write to their Board and to the Daily Sun expressing their opinion. If this issue matters to them, it is time to be more than silent.

I am not sure that you are aware that the three supervisors who voted for this striping have been or currently are all affiliated with the Property Owners Assoc. Two were former Directors of the POA who resigned their position when elected last November. The other is still currently a Director. It is a concern to me that a block vote by these three supervisors could be interpreted as promoting the POA's agenda in utter disregard to the best interest of District #8 residents.

Thank you for your support,
Dennis Hayes
Supervisor for District #8 &
Member of the Project-wide Advisory Committee (PWAC)

I got the same message, so I guess that Hayes has a prepared response. I had voted for the two "Ray" guys when they opposed the developer-appointed incumbents. So, they, too, are out of control.

Marathon Man 09-11-2015 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Villageswimmer (Post 1112063)
Important info. Meeting 10/16 @ 11:30 Lake Miona Rec Ctr

I will be there. Quick question. Is the meeting open to all TV residents? I suspect that this may be a standing room only meeting. I would not like to see CDD8 residents squeezed out of the room.

looneycat 09-13-2015 07:46 PM

so, er, um, I guess a discussion of the 'glow in the dark' striping is out of the questiion.....:shrug:

alurb 09-14-2015 06:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by virgind (Post 1108664)
Some one please tell me why the side stripping of the golf cart paths have to be done. Thats an expence that is a waste of money.

Center line and only as needed. ..PLEASE


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