Originally Posted by vette (Post 1085256)

Have to agree with golf2140 and the engineering firm that recommended not to stripe. If your vision is that bad that u can't see the path at night upgrade the headlights on your cart or better yet Don't drive at night. If you're that drunk that u can't see the path at night. Guess What!!

Bottom line you Can't legislate away stupidity... And stripes won't make it go away either!

Originally Posted by Polar Bear (Post 1085672)

First of all, I am not an expert specifically on striping of multi-modal paths. I'm not sure experts in that field even exist. Widespread use of multi-modal paths does not exist...yet. Very few other places, if any, have them as a major mode of transportation such as in The Villages. That makes for very little data. That being said...

The only problem I see with the paths in TV is lack of visibility in certain limited sections of the path at night. For this reason, I think striping on the edges of the path...and better markings of some medians...has merit.

While I haven't thoroughly considered possible pros/cons of center-line striping, at this time I don't see any obvious benefit.

Originally Posted by billethkid (Post 1085344)

What some residents will have to learn is that there is not an endless supply of money to keep adding expenses to a budget that for all practical purposes has a fixed source (you and me and our annual contribution).

The attitude of some stating it is only $4 more per month per person is seriously flawed thinking. It is absolutely an option.....as long as residents understand to free up $300,000 from the budgeted amount to do striping of cart paths then something else amounting to $300,000 has to be deleted from the budget. If not then there will be an increase in amenity or what ever fees contribute to the funding.

The single biggest threat to TV life style remaining as what we all bought into is run away expenses with increasing resident fees to accomodate the whims of some number of residents.

I have personally been involved with transition teams shifting ownership from developers to residents. The developer, like it or not has a budget discipline. They also have many expenses that they subsidize that go away when they do. Once the developer is out of the picture then residents find "things" they would like to have added, improved, made bigger, prettier and on and on.
Anything is possible. As long as residents understand there is only a fixed amount of money available (from the residents). Adding a projedt not bugeted means taking something else away OR raise fees. Some delude themselves into having a special assessment for their favorite project ending up with the normal fees plus the assessment (which may go away after some specified time period...but usuallly do not).

I take the time to spell out my views on the subject because far too many people think a community can absorb all the costs. The can....when the fees are increased.

How about fees going from the roughly $300 per month we pay now to double that amount? No way that could happen here in TV? Yes it can and will if we do not DEMAND a fiscal financial responsibility. I have lived through a doubling of annual fees after a departing developer in the past.

Maybe while TV developer is still involved we might not experience any assessment or increases.....maybe.....$300,000 is a lot of money that has to come from some place.

If it were 100% resident funded are you willing to make monthly payments to have it done? If not then you better make yourself heard.

The silent majority can ONLY LOSE!!

I vote no striping. The end does not justify the a $300,000 expenditure or $30,000 either! Just drive the paths as some of us have for the last 12-20 years of being here. Don't get sucked into an emotional sales job!

Originally Posted by Bootcamp (Post 1085920)

Look at how often you drive at night on the paths, and the weather presented a problem. Does it warrant, this kind of money. I don't think so!!!

Originally Posted by Hank N Judy (Post 1085974)

If the people that say they can't see at night would adjust there headlights to the path instead of shining in the ski they would be able to see

Originally Posted by ldj1938 (Post 1085889)

As an early tee-time golfer in the winter you are making the trip in the dark, possibly raining, trying not to run over the walkers on the wrong side of the cart path I support striping! How many of the cart path drivers that must drive with restricted visibility would support striping? Your response is based on very little experience in the real world.

Originally Posted by Hank N Judy (Post 1085995)

This is no different then driving on the interstate in fog and following the white line into the back of a tractor trailer. If you can,t see slow up

Originally Posted by kcrazorbackfan (Post 1085930)

:agree: NO, NO, NO to sideline striping. Stop the financial irresponsibility - $300,000 for side lining, $2,000,000 annually to replace the flowers at the intersections/roundabouts when FF plants would be just as nice. This irresponsibility goes on and on.

The majority of the carts that travel on the MMP's go 20 mph or less. If a person does not have the reaction time to suddenly stop their cart or safely correct the direction of their cart because of their inattention or even just their ability to pay attention to what their doing anymore, stop driving. Side lines are not going to correct ignorance and that's what causes most accidents.

STOP THE MADNESS.

Originally Posted by TNLAKEPANDA (Post 1085286)

Total waste of money. It will do nothing. A center lane strip would be more helpful. Expect your monthly fees to go up!