I still don't get your point. Seat belts and various other vehicle and travel-way features don't change the way people drive either. All they do is enhance safety. That's the intent of striping.

That's what I was trying to say. Thanks, Polar Bear, for saying it so much better.

Actually, CFrance, I think you stated it very clearly. :)

Buzzy, if you find the link to the study results, please post it.
There is a survey today in the online newspaper. I wonder if the officials are interested in the outcome.

I agree CFrance.

Another way to look at it might be a night like tonight. You are in a very heavy rain and dark conditions or fog. You get to choose from one of two routes. The first route would be a dark road with no lights or markings on the road. Your other choice would be driving down a road like 27/441 with lights and reflectors and markings on the road - but it will add an additional 15 minutes to your drive. Which road would you take? Which road would make you feel safer?

You are all talking about "it might make someone feel safer" or it "might prevent accidents". That is not protocol for spending $300,000 plus and associated maintenance fees for something that has not been demonstrated by statistics to offer a decrease in accident rates. That is the way engineers make decisions - on decreasing actual accidents, not on maybes. If there had been a definable accident history attributable to lack of visibility and striping, it would be a different story.

I hope not. Online polls are easy to manipulate. I just voted 4 times on that poll.

The primary issues for striping the Multi-Use Trails are safety and visibility. However the Kimley-Horn professional engineering study, for which we paid over $7,000.00 to conduct, does not support striping. In addition, four years of data from our Villages Public Safety Department also does not support the need for striping. The Villages News.com survey says that 59% of Villagers do NOT support stripping. Only 12 accidents with injuries have occurred in 4 years which averages 3 accidents per year during the dusk to dawn periods of time. Visibility is not an issue since the majority of accidents (53 of the 65) occurred during the hours of 9AM to 7PM. A Villages Public Safety employee who was involved with the collection of this data has stated that the majority of these accidents were caused by CARELESSNESS.
At the CDD5 meeting on Friday of this week the room had a significant number of attendees who heard the proceedings concerning the stripping issue. Only two individuals spoke and both were NOT in favor of stripping. I was one of those who spoke. There were no individuals who spoke in support of stripping. In spite of the discussion the entire 5 members of CDD5 board voted to support the stripping of the Multi-Use trails. This tells me all 5 Supervisors chose to ignore the findings of The Villages Public Safety Department, and the Kimley-Horn report. Without supporting facts and data, it would be a breach of the Project Wide Advisory Council’s fiduciary responsibility for residents in CDD 5 thru 10 to finance this very expensive ($300,000.00) project. I respectfully request that you vote to NOT stripe the Multi-Use Trails.
The final recommendation on whether or not to do stripping on the Multi-Use trails will be discussed at a meeting at 9:00 AM at the Savannah Center. If you agree that funding this project is NOT a good idea I would suggest that you attend this meeting. Those who favor stripping will be there “en mass” and if you are a member of the “silent majority” who want your voices heard I would strongly recommend that you attend this extremely important meeting.

Amen, Bare, Amen

You do realize this amounts to about $1 per year per household? My leisure time is worth a lot more than that.

Great post. It's nice to see some facts for a change.

This "discusdion" started many months ago. Timing has it that the meetings are occuring in the summer. The snowbird owners can certainly participate by contacting their district representative. TOTV works outside the bubble....:icon_wink:

I would like to conduct an informal survey. Those who are against the striping is because of the cost? If the cost was $100,000 who you support. Is it "principle" in you think it is not needed? What would have to happen to change you position, a death on the multi-modal paths?

I can't understand why it is ok to change the flowers four times per year, but not improve safety for the users of the paths. I've yet to see the outrage of the flowers...

There have only been 3 incidents per year on the paths at night and there were various causes. Most accidents happen during the day and on the roads or parking lots not paths.

I saw someone slip getting out of a sand trap yesterday. Lets add a ladder to each and put in a safety rail around the traps. It will only cost $2.00 per household. Good grief!

The consulting engineer said no! If you can't see at night don't drive or at least slow down.