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retiredguy123 05-20-2023 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by msilagy (Post 2219409)
This is basically a question of risk vs cost. The risk is low for sure. The cost is whatever it is. So one would have to know their risk tolerance and make a decision. An insurance broker explained to me that the catastrophic ins which is mandatory will cover your home if the home is damaged from a sink hole. If a sinkhole opens up away from the home, in the driveway, back yard, etc that's when sinkhole coverage takes over. I'm not sure everyone understands this. I personally do not have sink hole coverage.

The insurance broker gave you incorrect information. Sinkhole coverage will only cover damage to your house. It won't cover damage to your property, such as your lawn or driveway. The difference between sinkhole insurance and the mandatory catastrophic ground collapse insurance is that the mandatory insurance can only be used if your house is condemned and declared uninhabitable. But, if your house has minor foundation damage, but not condemned, the sinkhole insurance will cover the damage.

cactusjill 05-20-2023 06:40 PM

I am in the middle of shopping insurance. Sinkhole coverage from one company is a whopping $726. Given the 10% deductible, I would probably forego the sinkhole coverage. Another company offers sinkhole coverage for $81. For that, I would probably take the extra coverage. Crazy, isn't it!

Freeda 05-21-2023 04:52 AM

We have always had only catastrophic; not sinkhole coverage. Willing to take the risk.

I think if a Villager had an uninsured sinkhole develop they should form a Gofundme and we'll chip in.

huge-pigeons 05-21-2023 05:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Nevinator (Post 2219357)
Excellent point!

For the purpose of my own edification I’d be interested in knowing whether sinkholes are prevalent in The Villages neighborhoods.

Sinkholes common if Florida? Are hurricanes common in Florida? You have more sinkholes in Florida than hurricanes. Do you have hurricane insurance?

Another question: do you have umbrella insurance? If you have done well up to this point, umbrella insurance is mandatory or you can lose everything.

birdawg 05-21-2023 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2219414)
The insurance broker gave you incorrect information. Sinkhole coverage will only cover damage to your house. It won't cover damage to your property, such as your lawn or driveway. The difference between sinkhole insurance and the mandatory catastrophic ground collapse insurance is that the mandatory insurance can only be used if your house is condemned and declared uninhabitable. But, if your house has minor foundation damage, but not condemned, the sinkhole insurance will cover the damage.

the question I have is you pay the first 10% of the value of the home,so let’s say the house is valued at 400 thousand you pay the first 40 thousand. I would think with that much damage the home would be condemned. Am I correct with my thinking.

Rainger99 05-21-2023 06:37 AM

Has anyone had, or knows of anyone, who made a claim under their sinkhole coverage?

How did it work out?
How much was the damage and how much was paid by the insurance company? Did the insurance company fight you on the claim?

With a 10% deductible, I would think most of the claim would be paid by the homeowner.

banjobob 05-21-2023 06:59 AM

As with any insurance weigh the cost vs. benefit, a sinkhole though can be catastrophic however the chance suffering one is very rare.

Rainger99 05-21-2023 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by banjobob (Post 2219550)
As with any insurance weigh the cost vs. benefit, a sinkhole though can be catastrophic however the chance suffering one is very rare.

I am not an expert but
I think if your house is destroyed by a sinkhole, sinkhole coverage does not apply. Instead you would be covered by catastrophic ground cover collapse coverage. If there is slight damage, such as cracks in the wall, then you might be covered by sinkhole coverage.

This article seems to provide a excellent discussion.


What Is Sinkhole Insurance and Who Needs It? | Credible

SusanStCatherine 05-21-2023 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Rainger99 (Post 2219544)
Has anyone had, or knows of anyone, who made a claim under their sinkhole coverage?

How did it work out?
How much was the damage and how much was paid by the insurance company? Did the insurance company fight you on the claim?

With a 10% deductible, I would think most of the claim would be paid by the homeowner.

With State Farm sink hole coverage the deductible is much lower than Progressive, at least for us 20 months ago.

retiredguy123 05-21-2023 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by birdawg (Post 2219535)
the question I have is you pay the first 10% of the value of the home,so let’s say the house is valued at 400 thousand you pay the first 40 thousand. I would think with that much damage the home would be condemned. Am I correct with my thinking.

First of all, I think you can get a lower deductible with some insurance companies if you shop around. And second, it is very possible that a house could sustain more than 10 percent damage without being condemned. It really depends on the type of damage that occurs. Repairing a damaged foundation is very expensive, but you may still be able to live in it, and long as safety is not an issue.

Bilyclub 05-21-2023 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Freeda (Post 2219521)
We have always had only catastrophic; not sinkhole coverage. Willing to take the risk.

I think if a Villager had an uninsured sinkhole develop they should form a Gofundme and we'll chip in.


No, there would be a thread 50 pages long saying you should have had sinkhole insurance.

rogerk 05-21-2023 09:15 AM

I lived in a courtyard villa in Calumet Grove for about 18+ years. The entire home had ceramic tiles and not one grout line ever cracked.

Don’t generalize! Talk to a professional insurance broker or home inspector and get their take on Sinkhole coverage. Personally I have it, yes it is expensive but sinkholes are unpredictable and expensive to repair. What was the old ad, “Pay me now or pay me later. “

dnobles 05-21-2023 10:29 AM

2 insurance professionals who have nothing to gain, advised me to drop the extra sinkhole. Progressive told me several customers have dropped it. Now I’ll receive all sorts of remarks telling me that’s wrong 🤣🤣. Good luck. Do what’s best for you Good luck

charlieo1126@gmail.com 05-21-2023 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by dnobles (Post 2219657)
2 insurance professionals who have nothing to gain, advised me to drop the extra sinkhole. Progressive told me several customers have dropped it. Now I’ll receive all sorts of remarks telling me that’s wrong 🤣🤣. Good luck. Do what’s best for you Good luck

No you’re not wrong it’s your choice . I’ve had 5 new homes and the 6th one is a preowned, I was ready to walk away from the sale and move to the lofts because my old insurance company and 2 others wouldn’t give me the coverage , the third one came out did an inspection and gave me the coverage with not much of a change in price , for some people you can never have to much insurance for others not so much it’s a small price to pay for peace of mind if you can or even if you can’t

LLJorgs 05-21-2023 06:53 PM

We have both coverages. We bought new construction and was told by agent we should have it, most everyone does. Upon renewal we were also debating whether to keep it and an inspector told us in their opinion keep it at least 5 yrs to give everything time to settle after all the disruption in the area. An actual example given was a sink hole opening in front yard that damaged attached garage and foundation was not covered under catastrophic cause house was not condemned - cost was about $100k to repair. Convinced us to keep it and went with State Farm, we have 1/2% deductible for all perils including the added sinkhole coverage. Only one I found that offers less than the 10% deductible on sinkhole and we got better coverages on other items.


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