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Goodi70 07-21-2021 07:13 AM

Am really interested in your mango trees. When inquiring about them, I was told they would not survive in this planting zone - how old are yours? Any problems through a cold winter such as the one we just had? You give me hope to give one a try as I really miss both the fruit and the way they look.

Flyers999 07-21-2021 07:40 AM

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When I moved here four years ago, I planted an East Palatka Holly, a Thuja Arborvitae 'Green Giant' evergreen, two Nellie Stevens Hollies, and two Ligustrum Privets. A few months ago I added a weeping bottle brush.

One of the Nellie Stevens Hollies is not growing as fast as I would have liked. I may have over watered it and/or watered it at the wrong time of day(at night). It hasn't given us the privacy we had hoped for, yet. The other one is doing much better.

The photo shows from left to right, Ligustrum Privet, weeping bottle brush, and the Green Giant, which has grown the fasted of them all. I do live above 466.

Mlogan22@tampabay.rr.com 07-21-2021 08:33 AM

I have an avocado tree that I’ve had 10 years and it produces probably 100 avocados a year. Very low maintenance and doesn’t shed.

Laurel Maryland 07-21-2021 08:38 AM

Permission to Plant?
 
Do we need permission from the ARC to plant trees in our backyards? Is there a different rule for backyard versus front yard? Is it difficult to get permissions? New to area, not sure how this works.

RICH1 07-21-2021 08:43 AM

Bird seed attracts rats and squirrels! Fruit trees attract rats and squirrels! Snakes need something to eat or they will move closer to a food source.. Shade comes with a price...

Rsenholzi 07-21-2021 09:18 AM

Caladium orange tree
 
I have a caladium orange tree than you can have if you come and dig it out. Bears tons of fruit every year. I thought it was a regular orange tree but fruit is sour. Good for jams and to put in drinks .

Villagesgal 07-21-2021 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by shannondwd (Post 1976019)
We brought in a truck load of real dirt. I have 2 Florida peach trees, they taste wonderful and I share with my neighbors. 3 avocado trees, that produce, 3 mangoes 🥭 that are all producing this year, sharing with neighbors. 1 lychee tree, very beautiful and produced this year. 1 loquat products for 3 years. I have absolutely no problem with rodents….but one rabbit and a some birds, I don’t mind sharing. Mangoes are great for shade and privacy. I love to garden but suggest good dirt and plant on raised soil…our yard will be 5 years old next spring. I am a good pruner and my trees are all lovely for shade.

I also have many beautiful fruit trees. Try to purchase semi dwarf root stock fruit trees, they will grow to a height of around 10 feet. I have 1 peach, 1 Meyer lemon, 1 blood orange, 1 red grapefruit, and one fig tree growing in my yard, all produce fruit. I enjoy pruning and harvesting the fruit. I also have about 20 pineapple plants that I use instead of low bushes for landscaping which give me plenty of juicy sweet pineapples. I cut down my banana trees, too much work keeping them from spreading. You can grow great fruit here and enjoy the shade they give. If you enjoy pruning and eating home grown go for it.
The posters who commented on reuse water have no idea of what they are talking about regarding sewage water, the US DEP has strict regulations regarding reuse water from sewage plants. No worries there. I retired from FDEP, I do know and it's totally safe for gardens and plants. Enjoy your new mini orchard.

butlerism 07-21-2021 06:14 PM

none.
go with floral plants.
Hibiscus is at top of my list.

minimal yard maintenance.

Do you cut your lawn.... then why would you liken to dicker with trees.

I ripped out a giant palm (hanging over the house) and said good bye to the nuisance oak Tree..... growing under my slab and lifting the entry walk..

The villages will not cover damages to my house, tree gone.

butlerism 07-21-2021 06:15 PM

Second note.... god forbid you have an oak in your backyard.....
Expect to pay $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

skippy05 07-21-2021 06:34 PM

Degreed Horticulturist here. Stay away from fruit trees (too much mess, care, and invites pests). Bottle Brush I have found to be very manageable. Wax Myrtle, but only if you do not mind very constant hand pruning in the spring and summer to keep it in check (grows like wildfire and seems nothing bothers it) Do not subject wax myrtle to gas, electric, or the large hand shears that only cut at the tips. It must be a selective branch pruned backwards into the canopy to maintain a natural shape and not turn into a gigantic out of control 'ball'. I don't care for the crepe myrtles as the flowers are very pretty but the constant debris from the flowers is terrible to try to keep off the paved areas.

DAVES 07-21-2021 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by coconutmama (Post 1976021)
We had a lime tree that we planted in our yard. It did not do well. Pulled it out.

Bought another & planted it in a pot inside our birdcage, on wheels. Bring it inside our glassed in lanai for hurricanes & cold winters, when we get those 20-30 degree nights. Have had it for several years now. Fun to grow, but it is much less expensive to just buy our limes in the store! Don’t need a second tree to cross pollinate. Good luck & have fun

As a side note, bottlebrush & other trees/bushes grow very large. Please plant away from the house or you will be sorry, between squirrels & the leaves/ plant droppings damaging your roof.

I like the pergola idea for shade

We are dilettantes. A mistake and you rip it out or for some, hire someone to rip it out.
Imagine if your income depended on it and after your crop is in what you will be paid for it.
As far as a pollinator, some fruits will self pollinate others will yield more or better fruit with a pollinator. For some of us the pollinator can be a neighbors tree.

For many, they look so pretty at the box store or garden center. All should read before they plant. I used to have a great collection of peonies. They sell them every spring in the box stores. It is simply too hot here to grow them.

DAVES 07-21-2021 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Villagesgal (Post 1976268)
I also have many beautiful fruit trees. Try to purchase semi dwarf root stock fruit trees, they will grow to a height of around 10 feet. I have 1 peach, 1 Meyer lemon, 1 blood orange, 1 red grapefruit, and one fig tree growing in my yard, all produce fruit. I enjoy pruning and harvesting the fruit. I also have about 20 pineapple plants that I use instead of low bushes for landscaping which give me plenty of juicy sweet pineapples. I cut down my banana trees, too much work keeping them from spreading. You can grow great fruit here and enjoy the shade they give. If you enjoy pruning and eating home grown go for it.
The posters who commented on reuse water have no idea of what they are talking about regarding sewage water, the US DEP has strict regulations regarding reuse water from sewage plants. No worries there. I retired from FDEP, I do know and it's totally safe for gardens and plants. Enjoy your new mini orchard.

Clearly this is no shortage of misinformation. As far as our recycled irrigation water I've asked several people including cooperative extension. Typical replies is they do not know. My guess our recycled water changes in quality depending on what people are applying to their lawns or dumping down the sewers pool chemistry, insecticides, dog waste, oil etc etc etc etc.

As far as sewage. Read many of the organic fertilizers, melorganite comes to mind. Few READ the instructions it says do not use on crops to be eaten. It contains stuff like lead, mercury, arsenic etc.

DAVES 07-21-2021 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by butlerism (Post 1976381)
none.
go with floral plants.
Hibiscus is at top of my list.

minimal yard maintenance.

Do you cut your lawn.... then why would you liken to dicker with trees.

I ripped out a giant palm (hanging over the house) and said good bye to the nuisance oak Tree..... growing under my slab and lifting the entry walk..

The villages will not cover damages to my house, tree gone.

Different strokes for different folks.
As far as hibiscus, they are pretty, they are popular, they are marginally hardy. Past few years have been mild. Years ago this area was a major citrus producer. Several cold winters killed off the trees.

Global warming? Notice the new spin climate change. The climate is always changing and always has been. The old advice, the right plant in the right place.

Our oaks, the ones with the horizontal branches, I think they are called swamp oaks.
The wood has little value as the way the tree grows it builds up stress in the wood.
When you cut it, it grabs the cutting tool.

DAVES 07-21-2021 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Rsenholzi (Post 1976144)
I have a caladium orange tree than you can have if you come and dig it out. Bears tons of fruit every year. I thought it was a regular orange tree but fruit is sour. Good for jams and to put in drinks .

Not familiar with what you have but, have you tried juicing it and adding sugar? Not offering to lend it to you. I have a long handled juicer. Mine is old but they are still made and sold. You cut the fruit in half. Put it in part of the device, press down the handle and it juices the fruit and removes the seeds. Caladium orange aid? Tons of fruit every year sounds like a large tree. Not something I would invite who knows who to come over and dig it out. OOPS sorry about your fence, home, neighbors home.

DAVES 07-21-2021 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Goodi70 (Post 1976029)
Am really interested in your mango trees. When inquiring about them, I was told they would not survive in this planting zone - how old are yours? Any problems through a cold winter such as the one we just had? You give me hope to give one a try as I really miss both the fruit and the way they look.

Teasing a little people seem to look for trouble growing plants that are not hearty. With luck, due to wind direction, going out on a cold night to wrap them, sing them a lullaby or whatever. Ask three times is it worth the trouble? If, the answer is yes. perhaps you need to ask a few more times before ordering a plant.

I am not immune. I am growing amaryllis. Blankets are in my garage, they even picked the colors. The only things that don't complain about my singing voice. They are marginally hearty.


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