Originally Posted by kendi (Post 2257890)

That’s a pretty big assumption on your part. No way you could know without asking if they are snowbirds or not. Serious bikers are not out for a joyride. They are out for serious exercise. Not in a hurry, but rather staying fit through exercise is their way to relax. Until they encounter some pesky driver who puts their life in danger. You don’t know who’s mistake it was when the biker and car collided. Interesting your criticism is about 3 people with intentions for a good workout.

Originally Posted by asianthree (Post 2257378)

Little early to start attacking snowbirds, since most haven’t arrived yet. So my guess is you were addressed by a full time resident biking, passing you, because they could, and did.

Looks like you have started posting in 2021, and hoped that you have learned not all issues are caused by those who choose to own more than one home, can come and go as often as they like, keep our economy running, Pay higher taxes, without taking up full time space.

But to blame snowbirds, for your issue just proves, you have more to learn.

Originally Posted by Rich Iwaszko (Post 2257271)

Their back!!!!!! Snowbirds spending 3-6 months up north have to readjust to a faster pace of life up north. Once they come back they need to decompress to a slower pace of life here. This takes a little time, probably about 1 month. Its time to chill out snowbirds for your own safety, and ours.

While riding my bike today, my wife and I were passed by a speed racer going over the chitty chatty bridge. You know the bright colored dressed bikers who just want to go fast. He passed us, flew by whispering out of my way, and then about 2 miles down the path, we stopped to see him lying on the ground and being helped to his feet by the people whose car he ran into. 911 was called and there was a good dent in the backside of the car, hopefully he was okay.

While crossing the Lily bridge there was a biker in front of us crossing over the highway, a golf car crossed the solid line to pass all of us just before a corner. The biker shouted something and we proceeded on. Once into the Brownwood parking lot, the biker proceeded to chase the golf car down as he was going to the gas station. We did not stay for the conversation. But it wasn't going to be pleasant.

While resting at the Eisenhower Rec. Center, there was a women painting the door so the side door was being used. A woman came hurrying in carrying a bucket and a pilates ball and decided to hit the automatic door opener. The door opened and hit the painter in the head. And the women scurried into the side door.

All of this happened in one morning, and we figured out that the snowbirds had returned. Please be warned to watch out for the faster paced snowbirds. They need to decompress and adjust to the pace down here before more injuries occur. You have been warned, they may also need an attitude adjustment, please give them time to re-adjust.

Originally Posted by kkingston57 (Post 2257864)

Politely disagree. Live in the Spanish Springs area. New growth in the south does not affect us(too far away) and we have no reason to south of Brownwood and hardly go there. We have more here than we really need,

Originally Posted by kkingston57 (Post 2257276)

Still 90+ degrees in Central Florida and one week after Labor Day. In S. Florida "snow bird" season starts Thanksgiving week end. Sounds more like someone in the sun too long would do. Snowbirds and tourists are why Florida does not have a state income tax.

Originally Posted by rustyp (Post 2257647)

I use the tell tale sign of those facial cigarette looking burn marks from the dermatologist to identify a local. A long term local will have those burns combined with mile high white zinc covered ears.

Originally Posted by GreySkies (Post 2257987)

This is my 3rd time as a renter in TV, I rent from mid-September to early April. I chose this time frame so that I can experience the busy period when the population in TV is at its greatest. I have still not decided if I am going to make TV my final stop when I retire in a year or two based on what I have learned during my previous two rental periods. It’s a shame that there is a certain segment of the TV population that always finds something to complain about while pointing a finger at snowbirds or part-time renters. Is life for you that boring that you feel the need to seek out, identify and document the drawbacks of being a snowbird? Instead of complaining, how about making an effort to communicate with them, you just might make a new friend.

Originally Posted by Rich Iwaszko (Post 2257271)

Their back!!!!!! Snowbirds spending 3-6 months up north have to readjust to a faster pace of life up north. Once they come back they need to decompress to a slower pace of life here. This takes a little time, probably about 1 month. Its time to chill out snowbirds for your own safety, and ours.

While riding my bike today, my wife and I were passed by a speed racer going over the chitty chatty bridge. You know the bright colored dressed bikers who just want to go fast. He passed us, flew by whispering out of my way, and then about 2 miles down the path, we stopped to see him lying on the ground and being helped to his feet by the people whose car he ran into. 911 was called and there was a good dent in the backside of the car, hopefully he was okay.

While crossing the Lily bridge there was a biker in front of us crossing over the highway, a golf car crossed the solid line to pass all of us just before a corner. The biker shouted something and we proceeded on. Once into the Brownwood parking lot, the biker proceeded to chase the golf car down as he was going to the gas station. We did not stay for the conversation. But it wasn't going to be pleasant.

While resting at the Eisenhower Rec. Center, there was a women painting the door so the side door was being used. A woman came hurrying in carrying a bucket and a pilates ball and decided to hit the automatic door opener. The door opened and hit the painter in the head. And the women scurried into the side door.

All of this happened in one morning, and we figured out that the snowbirds had returned. Please be warned to watch out for the faster paced snowbirds. They need to decompress and adjust to the pace down here before more injuries occur. You have been warned, they may also need an attitude adjustment, please give them time to re-adjust.

Originally Posted by Rich Iwaszko (Post 2257271)

Their back!!!!!! Snowbirds spending 3-6 months up north have to readjust to a faster pace of life up north. Once they come back they need to decompress to a slower pace of life here. This takes a little time, probably about 1 month. Its time to chill out snowbirds for your own safety, and ours.

While riding my bike today, my wife and I were passed by a speed racer going over the chitty chatty bridge. You know the bright colored dressed bikers who just want to go fast. He passed us, flew by whispering out of my way, and then about 2 miles down the path, we stopped to see him lying on the ground and being helped to his feet by the people whose car he ran into. 911 was called and there was a good dent in the backside of the car, hopefully he was okay.

While crossing the Lily bridge there was a biker in front of us crossing over the highway, a golf car crossed the solid line to pass all of us just before a corner. The biker shouted something and we proceeded on. Once into the Brownwood parking lot, the biker proceeded to chase the golf car down as he was going to the gas station. We did not stay for the conversation. But it wasn't going to be pleasant.

While resting at the Eisenhower Rec. Center, there was a women painting the door so the side door was being used. A woman came hurrying in carrying a bucket and a pilates ball and decided to hit the automatic door opener. The door opened and hit the painter in the head. And the women scurried into the side door.

All of this happened in one morning, and we figured out that the snowbirds had returned. Please be warned to watch out for the faster paced snowbirds. They need to decompress and adjust to the pace down here before more injuries occur. You have been warned, they may also need an attitude adjustment, please give them time to re-adjust.

Originally Posted by kkingston57 (Post 2257276)

Still 90+ degrees in Central Florida and one week after Labor Day. In S. Florida "snow bird" season starts Thanksgiving week end. Sounds more like someone in the sun too long would do. Snowbirds and tourists are why Florida does not have a state income tax.

Originally Posted by Veiragirl (Post 2257924)

It's called a tanning salon.

Originally Posted by Rich Iwaszko (Post 2257969)

The man on the bike hit the left rear side of the car, it was damaged there, he obviously
ran the crossing without looking. Hopefully he is okay.......Serious exercise bikers need to go on the roadways and NOT the walk paths that don't allow golf cars,
The golf car that passed the biker going over the highway bridge came close to him in a no pass zone and the women going to workout looked at the painted and then still pressed the auto door............

These 3 workout people were not focused properly or bad things would not have happened. Some answers just call them stupid people, inconsiderate is a better word,
With the starting influx of snowbirds they are still getting used to the bubble again and have an adjustment period. An assumption on snowbirds of course, maybe wrong, we are grateful to them for leaving the place to the frogs for 1/2 of the year.

As the population grows people need to be more careful. Thats the point.

Originally Posted by rustyp (Post 2257473)

Which category of cool per your own declaration a short time ago ?

"The younger, more sophisticated and savvy folks seem to be the new comers down south.

The middle of TV seems to have a lot of successful folks, fairly new to retirement.

By the time you get to the Northern/Historic area, you have the much older folks who moved to TV when it wasn't much more than a trailer park. These people seem to want the world to return to the way it was in 70's and they rail against anything new, while they bemoan the passing of the "good old days", when Harold Schwartz roamed Spanish Springs."

Originally Posted by D&BSmith (Post 2257478)

Snow bird here. We're not home yet although we will make sure we wear a white "S" on our backs when we do. We are 8 months at home in The Villages and 4 months in New England. By the time those 4 months are over I cannot wait to get home.

Regarding time to decompress, it does take us a bit of time to get back into a slower pace. A few rounds of golf usually takes care of that.

Originally Posted by ThirdOfFive (Post 2257499)

Can't recognize a snowbird? Easiest thing in the world. Most folks wear shorts here. Check the legs and arms. Tanned arms + lily-white legs = SNOWBIRD. Not all, of course. But the odds certainly favor that.

These threads in the fall are as predictible as the sun coming up. A small core group of curmudgeons usually need to vent about increased traffic, boneheaded drivers, longer wait times at restaurants, prime-time tee times becoming harder to obtain, etc. etc. All true, of course, at least to an extent. But what some folks don't seem to realize is that the 'birds overwhelmingly are either property owners here in TV themselves, or are renting a home owned by ANOTHER property owner: in BOTH cases that means that the amenity fee for that home is paid for them just as it is for us who enjoy our little slice of heaven here year-round.

In other words, the 'birds aren't taking what is rightfully ours. Not in any way, shape, or form. They are merely claiming what they have every right to claim.

Interesting thing. One of the reasons we decided to buy here, was our experience as renters. Almost to a person the locals were warm and welcoming people, more than happy to engage us in conversation and share what they knew about life in TV. Today when we encounter 'birds we like to engage them in conversation. Admittedly some are a bit circumspect at first (they read the negative comments too, I suppose) but they warm up quickly once they realize we don't hate them or see them as interlopers of one kind or other.

Hopefully others make the same sort of effort. Makes things more pleasant for all of us.

Originally Posted by DonH57 (Post 2257544)

Snowbirds aren't back yet. I've seen no increase in traffic. I've observed a lot of families visiting lately. The other reason I know is our foursome has yet to be hit upon while we're on the green and that only happens from late October thru March. It's just a fact!:throwtomatoes:

Originally Posted by rustyp (Post 2257647)

I use the tell tale sign of those facial cigarette looking burn marks from the dermatologist to identify a local. A long term local will have those burns combined with mile high white zinc covered ears.

Originally Posted by GreySkies (Post 2257987)

This is my 3rd time as a renter in TV, I rent from mid-September to early April. I chose this time frame so that I can experience the busy period when the population in TV is at its greatest. I have still not decided if I am going to make TV my final stop when I retire in a year or two based on what I have learned during my previous two rental periods. It’s a shame that there is a certain segment of the TV population that always finds something to complain about while pointing a finger at snowbirds or part-time renters. Is life for you that boring that you feel the need to seek out, identify and document the drawbacks of being a snowbird? Instead of complaining, how about making an effort to communicate with them, you just might make a new friend.

Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2258060)

If that was the point, why mention (blame) snowbirds at all?

Originally Posted by dhdallas (Post 2257773)

I get really tired of all the snowbird bashing and blaming that goes on. Why would snowbirds be faster paced? I am retired as are most snowbirds and I am an expert at doing nothing slowly. While you guys are suffering the extreme Florida summer heat or running from air conditioner to air conditioner, we snowbirds are enjoying taking it easy outdoors with balmy weather and refreshing breezes. I think the non-snowbirds are just jealous because we have the best of both worlds! It's not us who need your suggested attitude adjustment.

Originally Posted by La lamy (Post 2257809)

Wow, one of the most ignorant quote of the week. MrFlorida must think the sun only shines in Florida!!!!!! While you're inside all summer, we're outside up north, in the sun, COMFORTABLY!

Originally Posted by med01 (Post 2257823)

If you moved to The Villages to be in a hurry, you might have moved to the wrong place.

Originally Posted by TJSanson (Post 2257836)

Its not just Snowbirds, its residents in general.

Yesterday at the grocery store I was in the checkout line, and holding two cold drinks in my hand and one other item, so I stand in line for the cashier because I had cash and the self checkouts were card only--and there were a couple people in front of me, and the lady right in front of me had just a few items and she put her items on the conveyor belt, and I took one of the item separators, placed it on the belt after her items and set my drinks down. She then said to me in a very snotty voice "If you're in that big of a hurry, just go ahead of me" and walked around to stand about 5 ft behind me. I looked at her and I said excuse me? and she said "I don't like it when someone crowds me, I got to have at least 5 ft of personal space." I told her I wasn't trying to crowd her I just wanted to set my drinks down cause they were cold, and I stepped back and I said "Knock yourself out."
She looked back and said "Knock YOURself out. I got to have space around me."

The Villages is supposed to be the friendliest Hometown, well I don't think so-- sometime in the last 10 years or so it's gotten the rudest most belligerent types of people I have met in a long time-- not since I lived in New York.
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Originally Posted by natjos (Post 2257848)

People who keep saying that the Northern end of the villages is an area of older people. Do you think original and secondary owners live forever? In my neighborhood, and most of the adjoining neighborhoods in the Spanish Springs area, is comprised of many, if not most villagers in their 50s and 60s. The original owners and the second owners have sold or passed away. People in the southern sections make assumptions. You know what that makes you?

Originally Posted by easeonby (Post 2257857)

What I have seen in many areas, not just the Villages, is that many off them area arrogant and think they own the road. Many times they ride 2 abreast and block off traffic from passing, this is why some off them get hit by cars.

Originally Posted by kendi (Post 2257902)

Same for us up North. Trees are starting to turn, temps in 70’s with low humidity, shopping is much closer as is our church. So many places to walk and bike with nothing to be in a hurry for. It’s simply beautiful. TV is nice in the winter, but in regards to the environment can get quite boring to be there all year. Especially oppressive in the summer.

Originally Posted by Sandy and Ed (Post 2258010)

Agree. Not snowbirds…just idiots. And yes, thanks to the snowbirds, tourists and even the large number of transplants we don’t have income tax. Even so wish they would leave the culture they are trying to get away from back north or west or wherever

Originally Posted by Rich Iwaszko (Post 2257271)

Their back!!!!!! Snowbirds spending 3-6 months up north have to readjust to a faster pace of life up north. Once they come back they need to decompress to a slower pace of life here. This takes a little time, probably about 1 month. Its time to chill out snowbirds for your own safety, and ours.

While riding my bike today, my wife and I were passed by a speed racer going over the chitty chatty bridge. You know the bright colored dressed bikers who just want to go fast. He passed us, flew by whispering out of my way, and then about 2 miles down the path, we stopped to see him lying on the ground and being helped to his feet by the people whose car he ran into. 911 was called and there was a good dent in the backside of the car, hopefully he was okay.

While crossing the Lily bridge there was a biker in front of us crossing over the highway, a golf car crossed the solid line to pass all of us just before a corner. The biker shouted something and we proceeded on. Once into the Brownwood parking lot, the biker proceeded to chase the golf car down as he was going to the gas station. We did not stay for the conversation. But it wasn't going to be pleasant.

While resting at the Eisenhower Rec. Center, there was a women painting the door so the side door was being used. A woman came hurrying in carrying a bucket and a pilates ball and decided to hit the automatic door opener. The door opened and hit the painter in the head. And the women scurried into the side door.

All of this happened in one morning, and we figured out that the snowbirds had returned. Please be warned to watch out for the faster paced snowbirds. They need to decompress and adjust to the pace down here before more injuries occur. You have been warned, they may also need an attitude adjustment, please give them time to re-adjust.

Originally Posted by Regorp (Post 2258112)

Bike riders in uniform are a scourge on the roads. One day on Meggison past St Johns, a group of 20 riders took up a car driving lane. They should not be there. Use the MM paths for safety sake

Originally Posted by Regorp (Post 2258112)

Bike riders in uniform are a scourge on the roads. One day on Meggison past St Johns, a group of 20 riders took up a car driving lane. They should not be there. Use the MM paths for safety sake

Originally Posted by Normal (Post 2258126)

It is that time of year. Over the past couple of weeks we have noticed an increase in traffic and larger crowds at the squares, church and for our weekly classes. The walk ons at the golf courses have been clipped a bit too. We were bumped because we had a threesome last week. Maybe, the hot weather up North or school itself kicked this one off early? Maybe it’s the surge in new homes? It doesn’t matter, buckle up, reserve your restaurant seats and plan ahead as much as you can.

Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2258096)

According to climate scientists we have had record world HEAT so far this summer and they predict even hotter next year. I can't take that anymore. I can't enjoy summer sports in Florida anymore. Summer will likely NEVER exist for me outside anymore here in Florida.
........I am jealous of all you SNOWBIRDS, so enjoy yourselves, I wish I could be there.

Originally Posted by Rich Iwaszko (Post 2257969)

With the starting influx of snowbirds they are still getting used to the bubble again and have an adjustment period. An assumption on snowbirds of course, maybe wrong, we are grateful to them for leaving the place to the frogs for 1/2 of the year.

As the population grows people need to be more careful. Thats the point.

Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2258075)

Didn't Jimmy Buffet have a song about changes in LATITUDE causing changes in ATTITUDE?

Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2258084)

That IS the way I feel and also, why hurry when you are retired? Does that keep the Grim Reaper away? But, many TV Landers drive like their hair is on fire.

Originally Posted by Vermilion Villager (Post 2258097)

Hate to burst your bubble......Very few if ANY snowbirds come to FL for the culture!! .....We are not trying to get away from our culture. That "up north" culture we enjoy is why we have two homes! The ONLY reason I have a home in FL is for warm winters, golf and pickleball.

Originally Posted by TJSanson (Post 2257836)

Its not just Snowbirds, its residents in general.

Yesterday at the grocery store I was in the checkout line, and holding two cold drinks in my hand and one other item, so I stand in line for the cashier because I had cash and the self checkouts were card only--and there were a couple people in front of me, and the lady right in front of me had just a few items and she put her items on the conveyor belt, and I took one of the item separators, placed it on the belt after her items and set my drinks down. She then said to me in a very snotty voice "If you're in that big of a hurry, just go ahead of me" and walked around to stand about 5 ft behind me. I looked at her and I said excuse me? and she said "I don't like it when someone crowds me, I got to have at least 5 ft of personal space." I told her I wasn't trying to crowd her I just wanted to set my drinks down cause they were cold, and I stepped back and I said "Knock yourself out."
She looked back and said "Knock YOURself out. I got to have space around me."

The Villages is supposed to be the friendliest Hometown, well I don't think so-- sometime in the last 10 years or so it's gotten the rudest most belligerent types of people I have met in a long time-- not since I lived in New York.
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