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Bizdoc 08-05-2014 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by sunnyatlast (Post 919150)
The Congress could vote for all of us "constituents" in the country to have the same retirement and health/life/dental/optical/prescription/long-term-care insurances they have.

That would be a nice method of "means" testing: Anybody who's earned less pension and insurance than Congressional members earned gets the same package members of Congress get after being in office for 5 years......

Retirement Benefits of Congress Vs. You | Bankrate.com
They (amazingly) pay 100% of the cost of dental/optical and long term care. They pay roughly 25% of medical/prescription.

buggyone 08-05-2014 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Rags123 (Post 919096)
I assume that everyone is aware that "that there is now a move being put forward by fiscal conservatives regarding Social Security retirement payments." is NOT TRUE and was made up.

As is this...."This would, proponents say, reduce the national debt."

ALL MADE UP....not true. Simply, it appears, just stirring the pot and not even worthy, as it's not true.
Just Google "Social Security Means Test" and you will come up with an entire list of articles that say there is a move being put forward for a means test for Social Security retirement benefits. No where did I say it would be happening or that I advocate it.

I have attached one such link and there are many more sites.

http://www.actuary.org/files/Means_Testing_SS_IB.pdf

Rags123 08-05-2014 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by buggyone (Post 919177)
Just Google "Social Security Means Test" and you will come up with an entire list of articles that say there is a move being put forward for a means test for Social Security retirement benefits. No where did I say it would be happening or that I advocate it.

I have attached one such link and there are many more sites.

http://www.actuary.org/files/Means_Testing_SS_IB.pdf
Still waiting for the Washington Post article that you said you read ! The article that alluded to the move to help the budget ?

sunnyatlast 08-05-2014 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Penguin (Post 919165)
You should run for office. I would vote for you.
But I would not run on such a platform. I know Congress would not be concerned with where the additional trillions of dollars would come from to fund such a program. They'd just vote to print money to do it, and that is dangerous to the already crumbling economy.

sunnyatlast 08-05-2014 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Bizdoc (Post 919168)
They (amazingly) pay 100% of the cost of dental/optical and long term care. They pay roughly 25% of medical/prescription.
Here are the actual premiums for FL non-postal federal employees, fee for service medical plans:

http://www.opm.gov/healthcare-insura...postal-ffs.pdf

The Mountaineer 08-05-2014 02:52 PM
Only 2 percent of benefits are paid to people with more than $100,000 in other income, according to AARP. So means-testing would do little to reduce the gap between income and payout. It's a political ploy, obviously, to sooth the masses. Far more would be saved by the U.S. purchasing 20 fewer planes, at $35 million apiece, from Congress' most loyal campaign contributors. Think that $700 million savings will happen?

784caroline 08-05-2014 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by buggyone (Post 919177)
Just Google "Social Security Means Test" and you will come up with an entire list of articles that say there is a move being put forward for a means test for Social Security retirement benefits. No where did I say it would be happening or that I advocate it.

I have attached one such link and there are many more sites.

http://www.actuary.org/files/Means_Testing_SS_IB.pdf
This article is from 2012...and that was the last Congress. All Congressional bills introduced in 2012 expired if not acted upon by the end of That congress (December 2012). A Congressional session lasts for only 2 years and old bills would have to be reintroduced, Its now 2014...with this Congress coming to and end in December.

Do you have anything current!!

old moe 08-05-2014 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by billethkid (Post 918991)
Reasons why SS is running out of money:

Not enough people paying into it

More people getting benefits than paid into the fund

Constant borrowing/taking from the fund for non SS programs

Illegal aliens getting benefits from SS WHAT!!!

And too many more political actions.
WHAT AGAIN!!!

YES We PAID INTO IT , ITS NOT A GIFT FROM THE GOVN"T.:pray:


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