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biker1 12-17-2019 04:13 PM

I don’t know what size house you have but it would not be unusual to be using 40 kWhs per day during the summer.

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Originally Posted by rjm1cc (Post 1702531)
I have not paid a lot of attention to batteries as I was concerned that when we had a couple of cloudy days the batteries may run dry. Can you tell me your experience with reliability and how big a battery back up you have? I figure I use about 1000 watts a day but it varies a lot by the time of year. I would guess that I might need a two or three day backup for the summer.


biker1 12-17-2019 04:14 PM

How would you suggest that be accomplished?


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Originally Posted by joldnol (Post 1702532)
Florida should make solar more consumer friendly


Packer Fan 12-19-2019 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Jimbo120 (Post 1687120)
Great discussion, glad there are others out there looking at solar

To start your journey get your last year's electric bill and get a calculation from PVWatts Calculator of potential power production and to size your unit (This is a government site where you can select historical solar radiation data from near your home, I used data from under a mile away) I paid just under $2500 per KWH for my top end system.

As far as panel placement, put as many as possible on the southern exposure and the rest on the east side as afternoon storms make the western exposure less productive ! Every solar installer will ask for your electric bills for the last year and be able to project how many panels will fit where by using Google Earth. My installer, Unicity, provides a cell phone (not WiFi) based system where I can look at each panel performance and daily usage and production data. So far I am selling a little more back to SECO than I am using.

Energy Sage is an excellent site to learn about the different panels available. I purchased the most efficient panels for Florida Panasonic with EnPhase digital inverters. One caution, don't have Energy Sage send contractors to you because if you deal direct your price may be cheaper. I found excellent contractors thru the Panasonic Site which lists their best contractors.

On the question of payback, I did not consider the lost investment cost of my purchase. Nor did I figure anything for maintenance as my warranty covers product, labor, and roof penetrations for 25 years. My thought was that I am locking in the cost of electricity and figure my next car, if I have to buy one, will be electric. Unless your system size is very large (I think over 6.2) you do not have to carry any extra insurance. Your homeowners should cover it.


Also be aware that the 30% tax credit is scheduled to be reduced in 2020 not eliminated. My understanding is that resale is higher but I do not plan to care about that 20 years from now.

Thanks Jimbo120

My main concern is Hurricanes and roof replacement. Will they survive a hurricane and is there a warranty for this? Also, what happens when you have to replace the roof?

Packer Fan 12-19-2019 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Bigmike18 (Post 1702348)
This an interesting topic,, I wonder why we as village residents don’t ask that solar fields be built by the villages on some lands not suitable for construction. Or lands outside the villages,, perhaps we could generate enough electricity, that the entire villages area would be energy neutral.

I can answer that one. We looked at going solar for our manufacturing plants so I understand the calculations. They would have to cover a HUGE area - like the are of all the land they own that they have not built on to supply all of TV. The most efficient way to do this is with panels on the roofs of homes - it is basically free space. The problem is that the power grid is really not built to handle the up and down production if every house had solar panels. The panels are also not cost effective. When they get down to like $6000 a house instead of $13-14K, that will be when the discussion changes and everyone starts installing panels.

retiredguy123 12-19-2019 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Packer Fan (Post 1703115)
I can answer that one. We looked at going solar for our manufacturing plants so I understand the calculations. They would have to cover a HUGE area - like the are of all the land they own that they have not built on to supply all of TV. The most efficient way to do this is with panels on the roofs of homes - it is basically free space. The problem is that the power grid is really not built to handle the up and down production if every house had solar panels. The panels are also not cost effective. When they get down to like $6000 a house instead of $13-14K, that will be when the discussion changes and everyone starts installing panels.

See Post No. 10. The panels for my very small house would cost more than $20K before applying a 30 percent tax credit. My current electric bill for the entire year is only about $1,000.

DAIII 12-20-2019 06:19 AM

16KW lithium batteries. (takes about 3 days to run them flat without any sun*) now again this is based on usage. (as example I don't run AC often- only in summer) most of the new homes in TV are gas supplied - so electric usage is very low to begin with.
Batteries are designed to run things after the sun goes down-if you only have solar and no batteries and the grid is out it auto shuts off (you cannot use the panels to power anything) unless you have battery storage then you can run independently.

*a cloudy day makes solar- sun hitting panels on an angle makes solar. (in fact panels with up to a foot of snow makes solar) the new panels do not need direct sun. If you have two homes in different locations you can send power from one home to another based on which has more sun.

I did it for the off grid life, the feeling of saving the planet - it's about a 10 year return (most panels have a 25 yr warranty) but it's not free electric.

Hope this helps.


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