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mrrmauu 10-07-2021 04:57 AM

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Originally Posted by zendog3 (Post 2013914)
This year we have experienced stronger storms, more frequent floods, droughts, forest fires, rising seas, melting glaciers, etc. Most people will agree that global warming, caused by the release of carbon dioxide into the air, is a primary driver of catastrophic weather events that will seriously impact the quality of life our children and grandchildren will inherit from us. The Villages is uniquely positioned to lead the nation in remediating the harmful effects of ongoing carbon dioxide pollution.

It would be a source of pride for all Villagers if the developer of The Villages, the preeminent builder in central Florida, and an enormously profitable business, would announce one of its forthcoming villages would be a “Solar Village.” Every house and public building in the solar village could be partially solar-powered.

As it has led in planned community development, The Villages can lead the nation in sustainable community development.

No thanks.

maxfl1 10-07-2021 05:01 AM

And, surely, you have a phd in the area. Would you like to hear from an MIT scientist on the subject. Go debate him:
2018 Annual GWPF Lecture - Prof Richard Lindzen - Global Warming For The Two Cultures - YouTube
Learn something.

Petersweeney 10-07-2021 05:07 AM

Another stupid post to ignore

DaleDivine 10-07-2021 05:47 AM

There's a development on Lake Ella road jus past Rolling Acres that is totally solar powered...

:ho::ho::bigbow:

CoachKandSportsguy 10-07-2021 06:21 AM

Since the thermometer is only about 150 years or so, not more than 200 years, the historical records really don't exist, so climate change is based upon analysis and theory, and only that. but long term is really more than 200 years. . . .

The most likely reason for long term climate change is most likely related to changes which are too small to measure over thousands of years. . .

Milankovitch (Orbital) Cycles and Their Role in Earth's Climate – Climate Change: Vital Signs of the Planet

however, there are regional climates which change due to human behavior, such as creating more heat sinks from city construction, so if anything might be the recent cause of surface global temperature rise, it comes from the heat sinks which humans have created by turning cattle fields into roads and houses. . .

remember, anything related to money or funding of any sort is subject to abuse. .

golfing eagles 10-07-2021 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by noslices1 (Post 2014110)
If it was up to Al Gore, New York would be “New Venice”, a United States version of Old Venice in Italy. He did say that unless he could make Billions with his Carbon Credit scam, New York would be under water by 2010.

True, and the polar ice caps that he stated would be gone by 2010 are actually growing slightly. (receding in some places, growing in others but overall a net gain)

joseppe 10-07-2021 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by blueash (Post 2013950)
As you often post on this website when those with no training or expertise attempt to speak with authority...

Did you get your PhD from Dr Google????

It is very interesting to see you using the language that the anti-vaxers use. Ideas shoved down your throat, using specious partially accurate information and totally misapplying it to this situation. Once again, the experts in this field are, like the experts in virology are in regards to Covid, nearly unanimous in their assessment of global climate change and the role humans have played in it. It is sad when your political agenda is in conflict with the overwhelming expert opinion and yet somehow on this topic you completely go as much off the rails as the Covid denier and the anti-vaccine groups do on their pet alternative explanations. I am sure you can even find the climate denier experts on You-tube and Breitbart to support your post. Pot, meet kettle.

Not to get in the middle of this, but a degree (ie. PHD) does not mean someone is 'smarter' or has more intelligence than those without a degree. IMHO

Andyb 10-07-2021 06:51 AM

Maybe these things are happening because we are getting closer to the rapture.

Rooklift 10-07-2021 07:03 AM

Yes put on 5 layers of masks that do not stop viruses. See if that works.

Bay Kid 10-07-2021 07:05 AM

Do we really know the damage solar panels will cause in the next 20-30 years?

mambeg 10-07-2021 07:09 AM

Solar City
 
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Originally Posted by zendog3 (Post 2013914)
This year we have experienced stronger storms, more frequent floods, droughts, forest fires, rising seas, melting glaciers, etc. Most people will agree that global warming, caused by the release of carbon dioxide into the air, is a primary driver of catastrophic weather events that will seriously impact the quality of life our children and grandchildren will inherit from us. The Villages is uniquely positioned to lead the nation in remediating the harmful effects of ongoing carbon dioxide pollution.

It would be a source of pride for all Villagers if the developer of The Villages, the preeminent builder in central Florida, and an enormously profitable business, would announce one of its forthcoming villages would be a “Solar Village.” Every house and public building in the solar village could be partially solar-powered.

As it has led in planned community development, The Villages can lead the nation in sustainable community development.

Nothing is free. Remember all solar panels will be in land fills in about 25 years, they do not last forever. China burns tons of coal fired mills to make the panels. The electrical infrastructure in the USA is about 1/2 of what we need at this point to charge the anticipated electrical cars we will all owns some day. Solar and wind generation will not be enough. If you want to do something, start at home. Look at the garbage we all throw out. All bought and paid for and will end up in a land fill or burnt.

Wilson02852 10-07-2021 07:11 AM

THE FACTS: Cows fart. That contributes to global warming. But cow burps are worse for the climate.

“Cows are pretty disgusting eaters, with methane coming from both ends,” said Christopher Field at the Stanford Woods Institute for the Environment. “But most of it comes from burping.”

Field cited the “classic quote from the technical literature” on the topic: “Of the CH4 (methane) produced by enteric fermentation in the forestomach 95% was excreted by eructation (burp), and from CH4 produced in the hindgut 89% was found to be excreted through the breath.’”

In a nutshell, belches are bad news.

At Tuscia University in Viterbo, Italy, environmental scholar Giampiero Grossi said methane emitted by ruminant livestock accounts for about 5.5% of the greenhouse gasses that come from human activity. More than 70% of livestock emissions are from cattle, he said.

“Ruminants are a significant source of methane,” which traps more heat than carbon dioxide but doesn’t last as long in the air, said Kristie Ebi, director of the Center for Health and the Global Environment at the University of Washington in Seattle. “The belches have to do with digesting their food” in the stomach compartments, not intestines, and that fermentation produces methane.

fritzy 10-07-2021 07:19 AM

Timeline Photos

biker1 10-07-2021 07:23 AM

The “science” is not understood by most people. Most get it wrong. In fact, the term “greenhouse effect” is misleading as the physics of why a greenhouse stays warm is different than the physics in the theory of anthropogenic warming. For the record, there has been anthropogenic warming. This is indisputable. Exactly how much is hard to say - probably not a lot. It is difficult to know exactly where we are since some surface observations have been homogenized. Anthropogenic warming is also a permutation on the longer time scale natural climate variability. For example, we are still in an interglacial period and will continue to experience warming. So, here is the exact science and the theory. Increases in CO2, from whatever source, impact the net longwave radiative loss to space. This is pretty well understood and can be calculated with some precision. However, this will not cause enough warming to be of concern. This warming must produce a positive feedback on the atmospheric/oceanic system to force enough additional warming, to be of concern. This is what climate models attempt to simulate. A climate model is a computer program that integrates the equations that describe the atmospheric, oceanographic, and land properties forward in time. The problem is that, in my opinion, the models are still a research effort and not ready for use as a tool for developing public policy. The models have had some issues with anomalous warming in the mid tropospheric equatorial regions during retrospective runs. There is no guarantee that the models have the physics correct. The interactions are subtle. For example, if you create some initial warming then the atmosphere can hold more moisture and this can result in more clouds that reflect more solar radiation and lead to cooling. But the clouds will also impact the longwave radiation and lead to warming. In the atmosphere, negative feedbacks are the norm: you “push” the system and it rebounds instead of amplifying the initial “push”. You have to believe that positive feedbacks are dominant over negative feedbacks to have faith in climate model predictions of significant anthropogenic warming. So, why have so many people pushed the panic button? One possibility is that the climate model simulations are correct, to some degree. I suspect we will wind up on the lower limit of the projections, as a worst case scenario, and man will adapt, as he always has. Another possibility is the political angle. I’ll let others expand on that.


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Originally Posted by coralway (Post 2013980)
You must be new here.

To grasp global warming, you have to believe in science - this is The Villages where 95% of the posters here obtained their degrees from that esteemed institution of learning, Trump University.


RICH1 10-07-2021 07:24 AM

Go ahead OP.. go solar ...
does anybody ever price this stuff before making a comment like this?
The last place in the world Solar would pay off , is in a retirement community...


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