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outlaw 08-04-2015 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Advogado (Post 1095619)
I have always thought it likely that the perpetrator(s) were reading, and perhaps participating in, the other thread on this subject. Thus, I am a little suspicious of the posts advocating closing the matter. Bank robbers and other felons (and the tree cutting is a felony) do not get investigations closed by anonymously returning the loot.

Except in this case I believe that was the deal offered by the authorities.

manaboutown 08-04-2015 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by outlaw (Post 1095625)
Except in this case I believe that was the deal offered by the authorities.

But how did the authorities come up with this deal? Who was behind the offer? What pressures were brought and by whom to offer such a weak deal?

Cedwards38 08-04-2015 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by CWGUY (Post 1095595)
Do you remember your post (#83 in another thread) - "Apparently the amnesty offer has not caused the perpetrators to come forward, and why should it! Though I applaud the offer of prosecution amnesty, why should they come forward since it seems we are no closer to solving this crime than we've ever been?"

:blahblahblah::blahblahblah::blahblahblah:

Sure do. Who came forward?

TVMayor 08-04-2015 08:14 AM

This tree thing reminds me of another mystery in TV. The question, “who put up the wall” on the historical side was never answered along with why.

Advogado 08-04-2015 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by outlaw (Post 1095625)
Except in this case I believe that was the deal offered by the authorities.

According to published reports, it was a deal proposed by 1 CDD board, and I would doubt if the board has that authority. I have never heard of anything like it before. A felon does not get off, elsewhere, by merely returning, anonymously, the loot. Only in The Villages, I guess.

CWGUY 08-04-2015 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by TVMayor (Post 1095643)
This tree thing reminds me of another mystery in TV. The question, “who put up the wall” on the historical side was never answered along with why.

:ohdear: Surely you can find a fresher scab than that to pick.

outlaw 08-04-2015 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Advogado (Post 1095645)
According to published reports, it was a deal proposed by 1 CDD board, and I would doubt if the board has that authority. I have never heard of anything like it before. A felon does not get off, elsewhere, by merely returning, anonymously, the loot. Only in The Villages, I guess.

I read that this was cleared through the state attorney's office or the appropriate FL authorities.

Advogado 08-04-2015 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by outlaw (Post 1095652)
I read that this was cleared through the state attorney's office or the appropriate FL authorities.

If true, it would still be bizarre.

Bogie Shooter 08-04-2015 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by CWGUY (Post 1095595)
Do you remember your post (#83 in another thread) - "Apparently the amnesty offer has not caused the perpetrators to come forward, and why should it! Though I applaud the offer of prosecution amnesty, why should they come forward since it seems we are no closer to solving this crime than we've ever been?"

:blahblahblah::blahblahblah::blahblahblah:

Are you saying there are other posts?:ho:

Advogado 08-04-2015 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by outlaw (Post 1095589)
Look at it as a form of plea bargaining. The state attorney agreed to not prosecute if the perps ponied up the costs to rectify the damage caused. It happens every day in our judicial system.

Deals to drop felony charges in exchange for anonymous restitution do not happen every day in our judicial system. In any event, I guess it's too bad for the perps that the Friends of Lake Miona, instead of the perps, ponied up the money.

Bogie Shooter 08-04-2015 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by manaboutown (Post 1095624)
It seems to me the perp(s) should have been required to make restitution for ALL costs involved as well as make a public apology to avoid doing time for their crime. Their continuing anonymity appears to be quite cowardly IMHO.

Did the payment include a note "payment in full"? What makes you think (?) that as additional costs are incurred payment will not be made?

outlaw 08-04-2015 08:47 AM

They are just a few trees. I really can't see someone being imprisoned for cutting down a few trees in a swamp, given that the trees will be replaced anyway. I used to go out into the woods and cut down oak trees for firewood. And this was sanctioned by the federal government.

Villageswimmer 08-04-2015 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 1095666)
Did the payment include a note "payment in full"? What makes you think (?) that as additional costs are incurred payment will not be made?

I think it's safe to assume additional costs will be paid as they occur. Someone wants to make this right, and it is the honorable thing to do. Perhaps they did not realize it was a criminal act.

Bogie Shooter 08-04-2015 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Advogado (Post 1095663)
Deals to drop felony charges in exchange for anonymous restitution do not happen every day in our judicial system. In any event, I guess it's too bad for the perps that the Friends of Lake Miona, instead of the perps, ponied up the money.

How do you know that?

Advogado 08-04-2015 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 1095673)
How do you know that?

How do I know what?


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