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Pugchief 09-06-2025 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2459345)
They're more expensive, and make use of more fossil fuels in manufacture and components. Most of the plastic grocery bags you see in supermarkets are made from recycled plastic, not virgin petroleum. Re-using them is more economic for me, and we all do what we can, given our circumstances.

Exactly. These things are never as simple as the propagandists in the media make things seem. The same applies to EVs. Lots of nasty goes into the final product. (But I still own a Tesla)

Pugchief 09-06-2025 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Velvet (Post 2459362)
And human being would be so much unhappier being slaves to the “environment” whatever that is. Sorry it is whatever environmentalist define it to be. While I initially fully supported them, when they became absolutely unreasonable and it became an ideology rather than a science, we parted ways.

Agree 100%. Ideology may even be too mild of a term. Religion might be more accurate.

fdpaq0580 09-06-2025 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Velvet (Post 2459362)
And human being would be so much unhappier being slaves to the “environment” whatever that is. Sorry it is whatever environmentalist define it to be. While I initially fully supported them, when they became absolutely unreasonable and it became an ideology rather than a science, we parted ways.

All life contributes to and, to some degree, are "slaves" to their environment. And what is "unreasonable" to one may be absolutely necessary for another. "Reasonable" is a matter of opinion. Environmentalism is rooted in and based on the current scientific knowledge and data.
Sounds to me like you just got tired of trying to do the right thing. Like the person that left their empty drink cup on the wall at Aldi's today because it was too much effort to walk 10 ft to the trash can to dispose of it properly.

fdpaq0580 09-06-2025 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Pugchief (Post 2459386)
Link to source?
A Google search came up empty, which leads me to believe it may be an urban myth.

Growing up, I used to find roaches, silverfish and other bugs often when getting bags from the stack in the grocery stores. Mom let me shield her from the creepy crawlies. Personal experience, not Google.

fdpaq0580 09-06-2025 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2459388)
So will we make automobiles? TV's? Computers? Printers? Telephones? Lights?

Let's just go back to the 1800's and hunt for our dinner.

Not far enough.

BrianL99 09-06-2025 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Pugchief (Post 2459390)
Agree 100%. Ideology may even be too mild of a term. Religion might be more accurate.

How Environmentalism Has Become a Modern Religion

Velvet 09-06-2025 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2459396)
All life contributes to and, to some degree, are "slaves" to their environment. And what is "unreasonable" to one may be absolutely necessary for another. "Reasonable" is a matter of opinion. Environmentalism is rooted in and based on the current scientific knowledge and data.
Sounds to me like you just got tired of trying to do the right thing. Like the person that left their empty drink cup on the wall at Aldi's today because it was too much effort to walk 10 ft to the trash can to dispose of it properly.

I just got tired of them making various excuses for flagellating people (can I give your example as a mild case?). It got old real fast.

Pugchief 09-06-2025 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2459396)
Environmentalism is rooted in and based on the current scientific knowledge and data.

:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Pugchief 09-06-2025 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2459402)
Growing up, I used to find roaches, silverfish and other bugs often when getting bags from the stack in the grocery stores. Mom let me shield her from the creepy crawlies. Personal experience, not Google.

So anecdotal rather than factual.

Maybe it was the store or the supplier, rather than the bag being made of paper? Correlation does not imply causation.

Why do people believe things to be true based on isolated, anecdotal experience rather than facts? SMH

Pugchief 09-06-2025 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2459413)

Great read, and so true. Crichton was ahead of his time.

Thanks for sharing.

OrangeBlossomBaby 09-06-2025 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Velvet (Post 2459416)
I just got tired of them making various excuses for flagellating people (can I give your example as a mild case?). It got old real fast.

You do you. I found it easy to ignore the holier-than-thou hyperbole, while still acknowledging that pollution exists, and that each of us can contribute to reducing it.

Caymus 09-06-2025 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Velvet (Post 2459416)
I just got tired of them making various excuses for flagellating people (can I give your example as a mild case?). It got old real fast.

It makes some people feel better. The 3 billion people in China and India have a much bigger impact than a feel-good plastic bag ban.

coffeebean 09-06-2025 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Randy M (Post 2459296)
We recycle all our plastic shopping & household plastic bags. Walmart, Publix & Lowes (and a few other stores I would think) all have containers at each entrance for plastic bags. We just hang a plastic bag in our garage and instead of throwing the plastic bag in the trash, just put it in that recycling bag instead. When it get's full, (which doesn't take long), we just take it along with us on our frequent shopping trips and put it in the bin on the way into the store. Very easy and convenient. Wish everyone did this.

I prefer to let the incineration plant take care of my plastic bags. I just throw them in the trash. Easier for me and my plastic bags are creating energy.

coffeebean 09-06-2025 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by mraines (Post 2459325)
Evidently you don't care about the environment, only your own convenience. Typical Villager.

I've discussed the incineration plant which serves The Villages which turns plastic into energy. No plastic at all in land fills and the plastics are turned into energy. What about that?

coffeebean 09-06-2025 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Pugchief (Post 2459386)
Link to source?
A Google search came up empty, which leads me to believe it may be an urban myth.

I don't know what search engine you use but Google came up with plenty. Pick one..........
do paper bags carry insect larvae - Google Search


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