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New Englander 08-06-2024 08:59 AM

Asian Markets
 
Okay, some here mentioning Asian Markets. What are you buying at Asian markets that you can't get in a regular grocery store?

PugMom 08-06-2024 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Altavia (Post 2356785)
https://www.talkofthevillages.com/fo...881-post1.html

It's a very stage shaped property, so probably more to come.

It will be interesting to see what goes in there.

https://www.talkofthevillages.com/fo...m-img_0458-jpg

looks like it can be another car wash

Altavia 08-06-2024 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Papa_lecki (Post 2356757)
If it’s Villages owned, you can go to any of the many commercial plazas and see what will be in the new plaza.

It’s not like the formula changes.

Restaurant on either end, grocery store in the middle, nails, BBQ place, eye doc or HairCuttery - you know the routine.

The permits indicate the property is Villages owned.

Environmental Resource Permit Apps

Normal 08-06-2024 09:40 AM

Not all
 
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Originally Posted by Altavia (Post 2357000)
The permits indicate the property is Villages owned.

Environmental Resource Permit Apps

Not all property across from Dabney is Villages owned. There is an apartment complex being built also that was approved by Leesburg not long ago.
Leesburg commission approves rezoning for apartments, commercial complex across from The Villages – GrowthSpotter

mrf6969 08-06-2024 09:41 AM

Whatever retail etc. is put in, y'all will have to be VERY patient, as it will be years in the making.

Stu from NYC 08-06-2024 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by mrf6969 (Post 2357004)
Whatever retail etc. is put in, y'all will have to be VERY patient, as it will be years in the making.

5 to 10 years would be my guess

frayedends 08-06-2024 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Normal (Post 2357002)
Not all property across from Dabney is Villages owned. There is an apartment complex being built also that was approved by Leesburg not long ago.
Leesburg commission approves rezoning for apartments, commercial complex across from The Villages – GrowthSpotter

My post was about the Villages land that is now being cleared.



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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2357005)
5 to 10 years would be my guess

Even though they are clearing the land now?

Altavia 08-06-2024 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Normal (Post 2357002)
Not all property across from Dabney is Villages owned. There is an apartment complex being built also that was approved by Leesburg not long ago.
Leesburg commission approves rezoning for apartments, commercial complex across from The Villages – GrowthSpotter

Interesting - Different location near Turnpike, conceptual.
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Leesburg commission approves rezoning for apartments, commercial complex across from The Villages

The Leesburg City Commission approved a PUD rezoning for 39 acres right off the Florida’s Turnpike exit at C.R. 470, across from the Villages of West Lake. (City of Leesburg)


The Leesburg City Commission this month approved zoning requests that will make way for an apartment complex and commercial space on 39 acres east of the Florida’s Turnpike and south of County Road 470, across from The Villages of West Lake.

The commission approved it unanimously with no discussion and there was no public comment. The city’s Planning & Zoning Director, Dan Miller, spoke about the project.

Conceptual plans for the complex, done by LPG Urban and Regional Land Planners, call for a maximum of 325 apartments in a maximum four-story buildings. The complex will sit on 25 acres and include a pool, cabana, gym, playground and a dog park as well as raised bed gardens with a tool shed and a six-foot wide walking trail.

The development will be a combination of one-, two- and three-bedroom units. One-bedroom units won’t be smaller than 800 square-feet. Two-bedroom units won’t be smaller than 1,000 square-feet. And three-bedroom units won’t be smaller than 1,2000 square-feet.

Access to the complex and commercial center will come from CR 470.

Plans show the commercial portion sitting on about 14 acres. Permitted uses include general retail sales, restaurants, pharmacies, professional and medical offices, urgent care facilities, veterinary care, coffee shops with or without drive-thrus, daycare centers, houses of worship, fitness centers, hotels and personal services like beauty salons and spas.

Currently, the land is vacant and undeveloped. It’s owned by John Schmid, city documents say.

justjim 08-06-2024 10:24 AM

Without a tunnel for golf carts it won’t change much for Village residents. Currently there is a Public, Winn Dixie, McDonalds, Oakwood, bank, gas station and other businesses that are two or three miles east via car on 470. I seriously doubt they would duplicate this on the land they are “scratching around” on county road 470. However, sometimes I’m surprised by what the Developer does or doesn’t do.

scubawva 08-06-2024 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Ptmcbriz (Post 2356911)
I order Shaoxing cooking wine from Amazon and get it the same day or next day.

12.47 from Amazon; 3.29 at Asian market. Fortunately I’m in a good Asian market every 4-6 weeks.

Normal 08-06-2024 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Altavia (Post 2357017)
Interesting - Different location near Turnpike, conceptual.
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Leesburg commission approves rezoning for apartments, commercial complex across from The Villages

The Leesburg City Commission approved a PUD rezoning for 39 acres right off the Florida’s Turnpike exit at C.R. 470, across from the Villages of West Lake. (City of Leesburg)


The Leesburg City Commission this month approved zoning requests that will make way for an apartment complex and commercial space on 39 acres east of the Florida’s Turnpike and south of County Road 470, across from The Villages of West Lake.

The commission approved it unanimously with no discussion and there was no public comment. The city’s Planning & Zoning Director, Dan Miller, spoke about the project.

Conceptual plans for the complex, done by LPG Urban and Regional Land Planners, call for a maximum of 325 apartments in a maximum four-story buildings. The complex will sit on 25 acres and include a pool, cabana, gym, playground and a dog park as well as raised bed gardens with a tool shed and a six-foot wide walking trail.

The development will be a combination of one-, two- and three-bedroom units. One-bedroom units won’t be smaller than 800 square-feet. Two-bedroom units won’t be smaller than 1,000 square-feet. And three-bedroom units won’t be smaller than 1,2000 square-feet.

Access to the complex and commercial center will come from CR 470.

Plans show the commercial portion sitting on about 14 acres. Permitted uses include general retail sales, restaurants, pharmacies, professional and medical offices, urgent care facilities, veterinary care, coffee shops with or without drive-thrus, daycare centers, houses of worship, fitness centers, hotels and personal services like beauty salons and spas.

Currently, the land is vacant and undeveloped. It’s owned by John Schmid, city documents say.

I’m looking at the platt map and it shows parcel 3913818 and 3906202 are not owned by the Villages. They would only be working on 3929534 or 1088003. There is the possibility of easement for 470?

LeRoySmith 08-06-2024 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Normal (Post 2357002)
Not all property across from Dabney is Villages owned. There is an apartment complex being built also that was approved by Leesburg not long ago.
Leesburg commission approves rezoning for apartments, commercial complex across from The Villages – GrowthSpotter

I've been waiting for someone to mention this, I thought I saw something 3 or 4 months ago about this. As I recall the 7 or 8 small parcels that back up to 470 are commercial businesses (store fronts)? I don't know if that's what they've been clearing the past month.

MrLonzo 08-06-2024 11:11 AM

A WalMart supercenter would be nice. The drive north is getting longer every time. And it seems to be the go-to store for new residents moving in.

Stu from NYC 08-06-2024 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by frayedends (Post 2357015)
My post was about the Villages land that is now being cleared.





Even though they are clearing the land now?

Based on how long it took to build infrastructure for Wildwood. Stores will wait until there is enough population to support them.

Altavia 08-06-2024 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Normal (Post 2357027)
I’m looking at the platt map and it shows parcel 3913818 and 3906202 are not owned by the Villages. They would only be working on 3929534 or 1088003. There is the possibility of easement for 470?

Agree, that property owner may be attempting to increase the value of that property with the "plan."

frayedends 08-06-2024 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2357038)
Based on how long it took to build infrastructure for Wildwood. Stores will wait until there is enough population to support them.

Seems to me they wouldn’t be clearing land if plans weren’t. In progress now. Plus they have turnpike traffic right there so not just Villages. I’m just speculating but I expect we will see buildings starting. in less than a year

Tobys Dad 08-06-2024 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by frayedends (Post 2356711)
Now that Don Wiley has confirmed it's being cleared for commercial development, and not just staging for 470 and a

In any case the desert wasteland that is Lake Denham and Dabney may be getting some new life. :D

As a 21 year resident on our third home I am always suprized by the changes made by the developer. When we moved here they bragged that every Village already had infrastructure in place. In our first Village which was brand new already had Publix, Walgreens, Citizens etc. Village of Woodbury. Those days are sadly long gone.

Dusty_Star 08-06-2024 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by justjim (Post 2357018)
Without a tunnel for golf carts it won’t change much for Village residents. Currently there is a Public, Winn Dixie, McDonalds, Oakwood, bank, gas station and other businesses that are two or three miles east via car on 470. I seriously doubt they would duplicate this on the land they are “scratching around” on county road 470. However, sometimes I’m surprised by what the Developer does or doesn’t do.

I'm not so sure 'the developer' does or doesn't do things. From what I see they develop the infrastructure & then post "commercial land for development available, for building or we will build to suit." It is then entirely up to businesses whether they think they will make money in that space or not. Since the developer has been doing this for a long while, they may give heads up to their contacts at companies they have successfully dealt with in the past, like Walmart, Walgreens, CVS, etc. But you are right, companies that are in the immediate area already will have a harder time making a successful profit forecast. Unless, their current locations are bursting with customers.

Nana2Teddy 08-06-2024 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Mass288 (Post 2356930)
Wasteland..?? Ok mr privilege tell us all how awesome your house is compared to my little hut in my wasteland..

Tongue in cheek, lol.

aces_04 08-06-2024 04:04 PM

Business options.
 
Starbucks

frayedends 08-06-2024 05:26 PM

Don just posted in his thread about video 147 showing a better map with the section the Villages has pulled permits for clearing. But his sources aren’t talking about what is going in. It’s very cryptic and secretive. So probably one of those popup Halloween stores. :D

skippy05 08-07-2024 04:40 AM

Mister car wash, WaWa gas, and a Vape shop.

jasamy2 08-07-2024 06:00 AM

There are 2 Asian grocery stores in Brandon that may be closer or easier to get to.



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Originally Posted by FloridaGuy66 (Post 2356740)
I do a decent amount of "Asian-style" cooking. A friend of mine goes with his Asian wife to Orlando for cooking supplies a few times a year to some stores that supposedly have everything. I don't think we have the numbers to support that type of store here but it's nice that Walmart carries a lot of the sauces required like Hoisin and Oyster sauce, unfortunately not Shaoxing cooking wine.


BubblesandPat 08-07-2024 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by asianthree (Post 2356715)
No on Costco, No on Hobby Lobby, too close to current and future location.

My bet would be Grocery, should be high volume, then again one can never go wrong with a
Mattress place, nail salon, and another 7-11:oops:barf

I agree...yet another Publix...

Marathon Man 08-07-2024 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Tobys Dad (Post 2357052)
As a 21 year resident on our third home I am always suprized by the changes made by the developer. When we moved here they bragged that every Village already had infrastructure in place. In our first Village which was brand new already had Publix, Walgreens, Citizens etc. Village of Woodbury. Those days are sadly long gone.

Not sad at all. Lots of these things, and more, are just a short drive away from every home in The Villages. Even the ones at the farthest corners.

Yodledog 08-07-2024 07:08 AM

470 speculations:
 
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Originally Posted by frayedends (Post 2356711)
Now that Don Wiley has confirmed it's being cleared for commercial development, and not just staging for 470 lane expansion, what will be put here?

Costco? Hobby Lobby? 7/11, Citizens First and a car wash?

Will there be a tunnel under 470 from Megisson?

In any case the desert wasteland that is Lake Denham and Dabney may be getting some new life. :D

Of course this is all speculation at this point but if I can be offered a wish list, here is mine:
1. A bridge or tunnel for golf cart access
2. grocery store, publix or winn dixie
3. Gas station.
Everything else would be gravy.

CybrSage 08-07-2024 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by BubblesandPat (Post 2357245)
I agree...yet another Publix...

It will surely be a Publix, but I hope for a different grocery store.

MorTech 08-08-2024 05:33 AM

Four banks and a Walgreens.

MorTech 08-08-2024 05:45 AM

A Hooters and a Cardiatric center.

Snakster66 08-08-2024 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by CybrSage (Post 2357323)
It will surely be a Publix, but I hope for a different grocery store.

Isn't there a publix and a Winn Dixie right up the road on 470 in Okahumpka? Can't imagine they'd build another one so close. But then again, being wrong is like a second job for me, so I dunno.

frayedends 08-08-2024 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Snakster66 (Post 2357726)
Isn't there a publix and a Winn Dixie right up the road on 470 in Okahumpka? Can't imagine they'd build another one so close. But then again, being wrong is like a second job for me, so I dunno.

I agree, both are only about 2 miles away, maybe 3.

Altavia 08-08-2024 05:50 PM

Does the area need another independent/assisted living facility?

Stu from NYC 08-08-2024 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Altavia (Post 2357822)
Does the area need another independent/assisted living facility?

We are all getting older

Timothyimitchell 08-09-2024 04:20 AM

I'd like to see a grocery, breakfast restaurant, gas, Applebee's hooters type restaurant, haircut place, fast food but not your usual crap, pizza place...

frayedends 08-09-2024 04:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Timothyimitchell (Post 2357901)
I'd like to see a grocery, breakfast restaurant, gas, Applebee's hooters type restaurant, haircut place, fast food but not your usual crap, pizza place...

I'd much rather an independently owned restaurant than a chain.

Stu from NYC 08-09-2024 05:04 AM

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Originally Posted by frayedends (Post 2357904)
I'd much rather an independently owned restaurant than a chain.

Me too

asianthree 08-09-2024 05:27 AM

Our youngest was disappointed not one “Coney Place” in Louisville. Has been taking polls among their guests @ their 3 high end NOLA restaurants for two years.

There are more displaced lovers of Great breakfast and lunch places than one would think. His thoughts are an Ethnic restaurant with breakfast, coney dogs, Greek salads, gyros, along with a true NOLA restaurant, in TV would be packed daily. Both in a retail strip.

Now just need to convince him, a chef and some outstanding people to migrate a little farther south.

JMintzer 08-09-2024 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by frayedends (Post 2357755)
I agree, both are only about 2 miles away, maybe 3.

The Publix @ Lake Deaton and Colony Plazas are about 3.5 miles apart. So one never knows,,,

LeRoySmith 08-09-2024 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2358070)
The Publix @ Lake Deaton and Colony Plazas are about 3.5 miles apart. So one never knows,,,

I hope its not a Publix, I like their subs and fried chicken but cant afford to do any real shopping there, Winn Dixie isn't much better

frayedends 08-09-2024 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by LeRoySmith (Post 2358128)
I hope its not a Publix, I like their subs and fried chicken but cant afford to do any real shopping there, Winn Dixie isn't much better

Yeah, I'm not down there full time. I was wondering if it was all of Florida or just these stores that had either horrible prices or crappy selection. Mostly I'm talking about meat. When I was in Publix, it seemed like the horrible commodity chicken with 15% broth added was over $5/lb. Pork was also crazy expensive. Up here that chicken is like $2.99 lb and pork is never really more than $4/lb. Winn Dixie sort of reminded me of Walmart in quality.

I resigned myself to going to Costco for meat when I get down there full time. I'll split it up, vacuum pack it and freeze it. I don't see myself using those stores for regular shopping if I can help it.


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