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rsmurano 01-22-2023 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by LAFwUs (Post 2177964)
You literally couldn't be more wrong.
Multiple villages where not only up & built, but fully or near fully occupied before sawgrass was even remotely close to opening.
For a very long time it was little more than a parking lot with construction barriers. Many of us knew nothing about an outdoor music venue coming.
Fewer still were told when they bought, that there would be a stream of outdoor live bands 4-5 nights a week, 3-4 hrs non stop ea of those evenings, blasting out music at volume 11+, some 200 ft from some peoples homes.

Our south end home was near Sawgrass, yet blocks away. Far enough away you'd think it would not have been an issue...
The sound was horribly loud when it first kicked off. Loud enough one could hear it inside the closed up house. Using the lanai or being outside for an nice evening conversation was unpleasant & disruptive.

There may be a few exceptions, and while we didn't officially complain, every single neighbor we talked to about it, felt the same. So apparently enough of the residence that actually live near it (unlike yourself it seems), thought it was also too loud, even the ones that knew & welcomed its arrival & opening.

Sorry but you are wrong. We knew about the music at sawgrass at least a year before sawgrass was completed, way before st Catherine was built out.

WingedFoot78 01-22-2023 10:38 AM

Exactly where is the new Costco and when is the opening day?

MandoMan 01-22-2023 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Tomas (Post 2178513)
I have put together many sound systems. The system at Sawgrass works great. But does not belong at that venue, it belongs at Edna's. You need a system of speakers that the sound drops off after a distance. The speakers at Sawgrass should be surrounding the Venue where people are sitting.

Example you can put 8 Bose columns surrounding the sitting area at a 45 degree angle hanging in a horizontal instead of vertical plane with about 4 subwoofers spaced at ground level also surrounding the area. Lower the volume on the entire system and just surround the space with sound instead of blasting from the stage to fill the sitting area with sound from one direction the front of the stage, the result is what they have - the sound going past the venues property. The sound system they installed does not work for this venue and they used speakers that are not designed for that area. The hardest part is getting the sound people to only use the sound needed to fill the area. Not red-line the sound so it is unbearable like at concerts. The sound should be as close to wearing a pair of earphones in the area where people sit and drop off at or as close to property edge. Not a system that blasts into the neighborhoods. Sounds difficult - maybe for the people that put these systems together but a sound engineer could make that place sound great and not have all the neighbor complaints. I think that system belongs at Edna's it is way to small for Sawgrass. The design did not work. So don't blame anyone I am sure they did their best. But this needs a complete redo and a complete training of anyone that touches that system so the neighbors don't complain as much. Remember there will always be people that complain, but fewer complaints are needed.

Good post. Some people believe in the pleasure of hearing music, loud enough to dance to it near the stage and quiet enough to have a conversation farther back. Others prefer to feel the music inside them so it can make them get up and dance without thinking. I prefer the former for lots of music. I prefer the latter for The Rolling Stones, etc. I perform bluegrass and country music. I want it loud enough so it can be heard and enjoyed, but I don’t want people to feel it. If the whole band is playing over 95 decibels, it’s problematic.

Mermaid3400 01-22-2023 12:59 PM

Being “one of those neighbors” we were told it was going to be like another Edna’s, three or four nights a week.

It’s not a square, the squares do not have houses wrapped around them. We love music and was excited to think another Edna’s would be here BUT the music is invasive into our homes. Forget about trying to enjoy our yard or lanai.

The sound people are trying to find a happy medium but as long as they are booking full bands such as Bobby Blackmon (who we love) just not inside our homes.

Now our home is invaded seven nights a week. Cannot help but feel misled and disappointed with the current situation.

jimjamuser 01-22-2023 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by TheVillagesYoungster (Post 2177899)
I have been going to Sawgrass frequently to listen to the music at night. When it was first open the sound was fantastic. Lately it has been terrible. It is turned down so low all you hear is everyone talking. I spoke with one of the band members on break and he said that they had to turn down the volume because the neighbors were complaining. The people who purchased in that area should have known that the entertainment center was there. I probably won't be going back. The sound at Brownwood is much better.

Yes, they probably should have sold the homes near the squares to ONLY those residents with poor hearing or hearing aids. But, unfortunately, no one consulted with me. Since about 50% of all residents have poor hearing, I am surprised that no one has thought of that solution. The ones with poor hearing would have a shorter commute or walk time to the squares to enjoy the ambiance of the fine people there. It would have been a win / win.

Fastskiguy 01-22-2023 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Tomas (Post 2178513)
I have put together many sound systems. The system at Sawgrass works great. But does not belong at that venue, it belongs at Edna's. You need a system of speakers that the sound drops off after a distance. The speakers at Sawgrass should be surrounding the Venue where people are sitting.

Example you can put 8 Bose columns surrounding the sitting area at a 45 degree angle hanging in a horizontal instead of vertical plane with about 4 subwoofers spaced at ground level also surrounding the area. Lower the volume on the entire system and just surround the space with sound instead of blasting from the stage to fill the sitting area with sound from one direction the front of the stage, the result is what they have - the sound going past the venues property. The sound system they installed does not work for this venue and they used speakers that are not designed for that area. The hardest part is getting the sound people to only use the sound needed to fill the area. Not red-line the sound so it is unbearable like at concerts. The sound should be as close to wearing a pair of earphones in the area where people sit and drop off at or as close to property edge. Not a system that blasts into the neighborhoods. Sounds difficult - maybe for the people that put these systems together but a sound engineer could make that place sound great and not have all the neighbor complaints. I think that system belongs at Edna's it is way to small for Sawgrass. The design did not work. So don't blame anyone I am sure they did their best. But this needs a complete redo and a complete training of anyone that touches that system so the neighbors don't complain as much. Remember there will always be people that complain, but fewer complaints are needed.

Thanks for this

DakotaKid 01-22-2023 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Marathon Man (Post 2178237)
How does anyone know that "one of the band members" actually knew the reason?

Easy, the sound people were told to turn it down because of complaints. Musicians and sound people talk to each other.

CynthiaAnn 01-22-2023 03:19 PM

We all knew what was coming to Sawgrass
 
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Originally Posted by VApeople (Post 2177920)
The entertainment center was not there when people purchased the homes.

Only the Developer knew what they had planned and I doubt they told the new homeowners.

We knew what was coming to Sawgrass. Sawgrass, the Market and the entertainment were selling points! If people didn't, they certainly didn't do their homework. We bought in that area BECAUSE of Sawgrass! I agree the sound is bad, and there is WAY TOO MUCH TALKING. The sound from the microphone on the right side (as you face the stage) is always the worst. They need to fix the sound system. It's pretty bad.

NavyVet 01-22-2023 04:42 PM

Darn, and I was hoping for some Black Sabbath, Disturbed, or Korn. LOL

Fastskiguy 01-22-2023 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by NavyVet (Post 2178732)
Darn, and I was hoping for some Black Sabbath, Disturbed, or Korn. LOL

Maybe in a few years we will

Joe


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