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Old 10-10-2007, 12:52 PM
Hyacinth Bucket Hyacinth Bucket is offline
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I have recently been bombarded with spam mail. Each day the numbers are growing astronomically.

I can not change my email address as I use it for business, and it is on my business card - all suggestions will be greatly appreciated.


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Old 10-10-2007, 02:34 PM
Hancle704 Hancle704 is offline
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Default Re: SPAM MAIL - HELP

To The Lady of The House:

This may be a very important message. ;D

I am on Comcast, and when the number of spam messages increases, I do not open my email using Outlook Express (my default email program).When I see spam using Comcast's WebMail, I can indicate that it is spam. That sends it to trash file and more importantly it enables Comcast to start id'ing where spam is coming from and starts them taking action.

If you are not on Comcast, and are using Outlook Express, don't open the suspect email, but right click on it, while it is listed in your INBox. Then select properties. You will be able to id the sender without opening the mail. If they are all coming from the same domain, then you can add that domain to you blocked mail list found under tools.

In any event, if you get this stuff and it says click here to remove from mailing list, DON"T DO IT, as this just tells the sender that they have reached a live email address.

Another important step is to make sure your friends are not forwarding your email address when they forward your messages.

Here's a tip that came from Village Computer Club recently on forwardeed message. You may wish to send it on to your email friends too.
Do you really know how to forward e-mails? 50% do; 50% DO NOT.
Do you wonder why you get viruses or junk mail? Do you hate it?

Every time you forward an e-mail there is information left over from the people who got the message before you, namely e-mail addresses & names. As the messages get forwarded along, the list of addresses builds, and builds, and builds, and all it takes is for some poor sap to get a virus, and his or her computer can send that virus to every e-mail address that has come across his computer. Or, someone can take all of those addresses and sell them or send junk mail to them in the hopes that you will go to the site and he will make five cents for each hit. That's right, all of that inconvenience over a nickel!

How do you stop it? Well, there are several easy steps:
(1) When you forward an e-mail, DELETE all of the other addresses that appear in the body of the message (at the top). That's right, DELETE them. Highlight them and delete them, backspace them, cut them, whatever it is you know how to do. It only takes a second You MUST click the "Forward" button first and then you will have full editing capabilities against the body and headers of the message. If you don't click on "Forward" first, you won't be able to edit the message at all.

(2) Whenever you send an e-mail to more than one person, do NOT use the To: or Cc: fields for adding e-mail addresses. Always use the BCC: (blind carbon copy) field for listing the e-mail addresses. This is the way the people you send to will only see their own e-mail address. If you don't see your BCC: option click on where it says To: and your address list will appear. Highlight the address and choose BCC: and that's it, it's that easy. When you send to BCC: your message will automatically say "Undisclosed Recipients" in the "TO:" field of the people who receive it.

(3) Remove any "FW :" in the subject line. You can re-name the subject if you wish or even fix spelling.

(4) ALWAYS hit your Forward button from the actual e-mail you are reading. Ever get those e-mails that you have to open 10 pages to read the one page with the information on it? By Forwarding from the actual page you wish someone to view, you stop them from having to open many e-mails just to see what you sent.

(5) Have you ever gotten an email that is a petition? It states a position and asks you to add your name and address and to forward it to 10 or 15 people or your entire address book. The email can be forwarded on and on and can collect thousands of names and email addresses. A FACT: The completed petition is actually worth a couple of bucks to a professional spammer because of the wealth of valid names and email addresses contained therein. If you want to support the petition, send it as your own personal letter to the intended recipient. Your position may carry more weight as a personal letter than a laundry list of names and email address on a petition. (Actually, if you think about it, who's supposed to send the petition in to whatever cause it supports? And don't believe the ones that say that the email is being traced, it just ain't so!)

(6) One of the main ones I hate is the ones that say that something like, "Send this email to 10 people and you'll see something great run across your screen." Or, sometimes they'll just tease you by saying something really cute will happen IT AIN'T GONNA HAPPEN!!!!! (Trust me, I'm still seeing some of the same ones that I waited on 10 years ago!) I don't let the bad luck ones scare me either, they get trashed. (Could be why I haven't won the lottery??)

(7) Before you forward an Amber Alert, or a Virus Alert, or some of the other ones floating around nowadays, check them out before you forward them. Most of them are junk mail that's been circling the net for YEARS! Just about everything you receive in an email that is in question can be checked out at Snopes. Just go to

Its really easy to find out if it's real or not. If it's not, please don't pass it on.
So please, in the future, let's stop the junk mail and the viruses.

But remember, check the top and the bottom of the message to be sure you have deleted information unrelated to your email message.

Hope this helps.

PS. I am a big fan of your BBC TV Show. Say hi to Richard and your sisters for me. ;D
Old 10-10-2007, 09:08 PM
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Hi Hancle,

I guess you realize I use my Princess phone when talking. I am delighted you did not mention my brother-in-law Onslo. I shudder whenever Richard spends time with him.

Thank you for the excellent advice. I never thought of the ways you mentioned a spammer could get my email address.

I never send things that say - send to 10 people and good fortune will follow. I have forward what I felt were good jokes and yes I have signed petitions.

I use Yahoo. I do not have Comcast. I have spoken to the staff at Yahoo and they suggested raising the level for spam mail. If I do that, then many of the messages I want will end up as spam.

When I have entered more than one address in the BCC line, I found that each recipient saw the other people I had emailed the same info to.

I will print out what you wrote - that way when I get a forward or anything else I will know how to handle it.

Appreciate all of your help.

When you are in the neighborhood you will have to come over for coffee - Elizabeth will be here. Perhaps you can help her also - poor thing, you know how she spills things.

Hyacinth Bucket
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