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pauld315 01-27-2018 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by justjim (Post 1509550)
The building is what runs the “economic engine” of Florida and what keeps the taxes low and the primary reason for NO state income tax. . :welcome:

No, that would be tourism

manaboutown 01-27-2018 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by justjim (Post 1509550)
The building is what runs the “economic engine” of Florida and what keeps the taxes low and the primary reason for NO state income tax. That said, retirees have been coming to The Villages from high tax states and this will increase with the limits on state tax deductions just passed by Congress and signed into law. States with no State Incomes Taxes will benefit and the expansion with continue into the unforeseen future. We will likely continue to be impressed with the speed of development. :welcome:

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dirtbanker 01-27-2018 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by TNGary (Post 1509568)
With the fast build rate and low cost to build, is a two year out buyer better off buying now or waiting?

You might wish to reference Zillow for the projected growth of the area...and weight that against what your bank is paying in interest?

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GoodLife 01-27-2018 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Packer Fan (Post 1509400)
Not that many people buy rentals. If they did, the rental availability would go UP, it has gone down and rents are rising. Believe me, if anything there is a shortage of rentals for the high season.


There are currently 32 properties showing availability for Feb/March 2018 on just one site villagershomes4rent so I wouldn't go so far to say there is a shortage. There is a lot of competition with more and more people renting homes here. If price, location etc are not competitive even high season is not a lock. I doubt all these homes will be rented at this late date.

Packer Fan 01-27-2018 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by GoodLife (Post 1509657)
There are currently 32 properties showing availability for Feb/March 2018 on just one site villagershomes4rent so I wouldn't go so far to say there is a shortage. There is a lot of competition with more and more people renting homes here. If price, location etc are not competitive even high season is not a lock. I doubt all these homes will be rented at this late date.

This has been the same every year, until about the first week of February, then they are all gone. I get calls all year just asking even through I show rented on 2 homes. Every year the rents go up. Wish they would rent that well in the off season!

Wiotte 01-27-2018 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by GoodLife (Post 1509657)
There are currently 32 properties showing availability for Feb/March 2018 on just one site villagershomes4rent so I wouldn't go so far to say there is a shortage. There is a lot of competition with more and more people renting homes here. If price, location etc are not competitive even high season is not a lock. I doubt all these homes will be rented at this late date.



Give those landlords a call to see if they are still available. Chances are they’re not. That’s
what my tenants would tell me when I rented out. They were very happy I answered their call or email.


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GoodLife 01-27-2018 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Packer Fan (Post 1509658)
This has been the same every year, until about the first week of February, then they are all gone. I get calls all year just asking even through I show rented on 2 homes. Every year the rents go up. Wish they would rent that well in the off season!

Could be but it seems a bit late to be reserving your rental for Feb/March at this late date.

GoodLife 01-27-2018 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Wiotte (Post 1509659)
Give those landlords a call to see if they are still available. Chances are they’re not. That’s
what my tenants would tell me when I rented out. They were very happy I answered their call or email.


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Sorry no time for that, I just put in a search for Feb/March 2018 and that's what came up. A professional rental website should be able to update availability instantly but who knows.

Wiotte 01-27-2018 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by GoodLife (Post 1509664)
Sorry no time for that, I just put in a search for Feb/March 2018 and that's what came up. A professional rental website should be able to update availability instantly but who knows.



It doesn’t. You pay the fee to list and that’s it. It’s up to the landlord to update. The website owner does nothing.


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GoodLife 01-27-2018 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Wiotte (Post 1509667)
It doesn’t. You pay the fee to list and that’s it. It’s up to the landlord to update. The website owner does nothing.


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Thanks, did not know that as I don't use that site for my rentals. Not a big fan of websites that don't keep info up to date.

dirtbanker 01-28-2018 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by GoodLife (Post 1509657)
There are currently 32 properties showing availability for Feb/March 2018 on just one site villagershomes4rent so I wouldn't go so far to say there is a shortage. There is a lot of competition with more and more people renting homes here. If price, location etc are not competitive even high season is not a lock. I doubt all these homes will be rented at this late date.

Several factors could come into play here. Those homes that are available:

Could really not be available, just as a previous poster suggested a landlord that does not update his listing (think of the several item you call about in the classifieds that have already been sold).

Something happened to the tenant that prevented them from being able to travel (I had a guy break his leg 6 weeks before he was supposed to arrive, he was in his late 70s and was not projected to be healed by then, so he cancelled his trip).

The homes might be in areas not convienant to the squares or could be less home than the renter's standards (only a select few would want to rent a trailer home next to a golf cart grave yard).

If you have a quality home to rent, in a clean village, located convienantly to the square, January February and March are never an issue.



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dirtbanker 01-28-2018 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by GoodLife (Post 1509657)
.... on just one site villagershomes4rent...

That website...
I had a few homes on there and had been listing with them for probably 5 years. I decided to take one of my homes out of the rental and move into it. So I notified them that I would not be renewing that listing when it was to expire. They insisted that I still had to pay for the listing, because I could use the other listings (the ones I planned to renew) to get renters in the home I planned to move in.
So you have done business with me for 5 years and now you want to insult my business integrity over a listing fee on one of the homes that I said was not going to be used as a rental?...I canceled my other listings. My homes have been rented no problem since...and they can go pound salt!


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Dr Winston O Boogie jr 01-28-2018 07:49 AM

We moved here in 2012 and there was nothing south of The Sarasota Driving Range. So yes, it is very impressive.

John_W 01-28-2018 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by geofitz13 (Post 1508024)
We first visited TV the second week of January, 2016. I believe it was a few weeks later when the plans for Fenney were announced. Now, a year later, it is unbelievable! Golf courses, rec center, hundreds of homes... all in under a year!
Is it just me, or is anyone else impressed with the speed of the development down there? And they are already starting homes in De Soto!

We first came to TV in April 2011 and Buena Vista ended at the Turtle Mound traffic circle, you could not go all the way to the red light at 466A. There was nothing south of 466A, the first homes for sale were opened in August 2011. I went there on a caravan put together by salesman Tony Trussler, who thought we might be interested even though we had already moved into Tamarind Grove. By August Buena Vista had connected to 466A and you could go east on 466A to Morse, but Morse only went to the first traffic circle. You either exited onto Pinellas or went back up Morse. You turned onto Pinellas and there was nothing but sand in every direction except for about 5 or 6 furnished models on Braddy Ct. You turned right on the second right turn which was Asher Ct and then right on Braddy Ct. and proceeded to the cul-de-sac at the end of the street to the models.

That area south of 466A was basically finished by 2015 until they bought the land in Lake County which became Pine Ridge, Pine Hills, LaBelle and Osceola Hills. Which added Belle Glade Country Club, several executives, 2 Rec Centers, a Shopping Center, etc.

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diane reynolds 01-29-2018 06:33 AM

To me, it is disgusting. Rampant development and no requirement for new homes to have solar panels. Money making rules The Villages.

billethkid 01-29-2018 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by diane reynolds (Post 1509979)
To me, it is disgusting. Rampant development and no requirement for new homes to have solar panels. Money making rules The Villages.

Really?!?!?

The other 99.6765349% disagree!

rlcooper70 01-29-2018 07:42 AM

Fascinating response - "a reflection of the degradation of the middle class" is interesting.

I offer to you that if people chose a life style (including the size of the retirement home) that they can afford then they will be happy. And all of use (65+) had an opportunity to accumulate some money (major economic expansion since 1980) and those who chose to focus on it have bigger houses ... and that it is the next generations whose pensions and retirement will be affected. Our generation is just fine.

twoplanekid 01-29-2018 10:10 AM

Everyone should take with a grain of salt the announcement today in the Village Daily Sun that “New Home Construction Soars in 2017 in Villages: Growth up 93 Percent, Value at $446M”.

I believe the paper was talking exclusively about Village growth in only Sumter County for this comparison of 2016 to 2017 as total sales in the Villages remain about the same for that time period. A newbie might not realize the Village growth that took place in Lake County during this same time period. So, their picture of growth could be distorted. It’s not growth up 93 Percent for the Villages as a whole.

It’s sometimes difficult for the news media in the headlines to present an accurate picture of what is happening.

perrjojo 01-29-2018 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by diane reynolds (Post 1509979)
To me, it is disgusting. Rampant development and no requirement for new homes to have solar panels. Money making rules The Villages.

I’m wondering at what point development should have stopped? The Villages had its first 400 homes in the 80s. Should Harold Schwartz have stopped then? When is enough enough? I think it is when people no longer want your product. As long as there is demand, TV will grow. BTW, any homeowner is free to add solar panels and many have done so.

Chatbrat 01-29-2018 11:36 AM

At the average age of people living and or moving into TV, solar panels IMHO is pure stupidity unless you have a contract from GOD to live to 110--the break even point $$ wise is in excess of 30 years & a lot of solar panels will not last in the Fl sun

dyobrien 01-29-2018 12:01 PM

Sometimes people buy the villa instead of a home for the sheer lack of privacy. We could afford both , but I was adament about the privacy. If the homes had fences maybe more would be sold. Just my opinion.

JoMar 01-29-2018 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by dyobrien (Post 1510135)
Sometimes people buy the villa instead of a home for the sheer lack of privacy. We could afford both , but I was adament about the privacy. If the homes had fences maybe more would be sold. Just my opinion.

Hate fences. That's why they have options here....if you need privacy they have the home for you. I also don't think that selling homes here is an issue, they can sell what they build.

twoplanekid 02-04-2018 09:22 AM

There is another new Bridgeport for sale in Fenney with a major change to the kitchen area. It looks almost identical to one that sold several months ago along 468 in Fenney. The outside area is also unusual with a large pergola and large non-enclosed seating area. These houses in Fenney are interesting in that they are unique/different than other models of the same name up north in TV.

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gweisheipl 02-05-2018 08:36 AM

Solar Panels
 
They are not pretty, expensive, and put multiple holes in your roof! No thanks!

fastboat 02-05-2018 08:49 AM

In 2009 I watch the house behind us go from a vacant lot to under roof in only 5 days. The huge empty property in front of us was quickly filled with 67 houses in bearly 2 months. I am impressed. Tell a builder up North that and they would never believe you.

graciegirl 02-05-2018 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by fastboat (Post 1512279)
In 2009 I watch the house behind us go from a vacant lot to under roof in only 5 days. The huge empty property in front of us was quickly filled with 67 houses in bearly 2 months. I am impressed. Tell a builder up North that and they would never believe you.

You are talking about the framing, not the finished home. Before that was the underlayment, the attachments to the infrastructure, the surveying and placement, and after that is all of the other things that happen when a house is built. A Villages home is not EVER completed in five days. They give you the date of closing when you sign the papers to buy. Ours was about three months and it had been done for a week or so. We watched it every day. It is our second new home in The Villages.

John_W 02-05-2018 10:58 AM

Framing is a term used in stick built homes. In the panhandle of Florida the under roof phase is what we called being 'dried in'. Your framing is completed, normally about 10 days on a larger home, your roof trusses have been set, plywood nailed down and exterior windows and doors set in place, so basically work inside can go on even on rainy days.

The OP said within 5 days, that's probably not framing because even here it will take a week or more to frame a house, but he was watching a masonry home go up. Of the 88 homes on Odessa Circle in Tamarind Grove I've watched over half of them go up on my daily walks. Almost all are masonry and they can lay the block normally in a day and half on a designer home. You'll know it's going on when you see about 15 cars and trucks parked out front of a home site, the next day the walls are complete. I had heard years ago that a normal masonry designer will take about 57 days from start to finish, and I think that's about right.

amexsbow 02-07-2018 10:37 AM

Is natural gas available for homes in Fenney?

Fenney5776 02-07-2018 02:23 PM

Yes, natural gas is available in Fenney....positively for designer homes....not sure about the villas.

Goldwingnut 02-07-2018 02:59 PM

Villas have gas also, they are using flash hot water heaters now which hang on the outside of the homes, in the Patio Villas you get to look at your neighbors HW heater when you sit out on your front porch.

vintageogauge 02-07-2018 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Goldwingnut (Post 1513102)
Villas have gas also, they are using flash hot water heaters now which hang on the outside of the homes, in the Patio Villas you get to look at your neighbors HW heater when you sit out on your front porch.

But you also have more storage in your furnace closet or wherever they used to put the hot water tank, fair tradeoff in my opinion.

New Englander 02-07-2018 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by vintageogauge (Post 1513120)
But you also have more storage in your furnace closet or wherever they used to put the hot water tank, fair tradeoff in my opinion.

Also, they are far more efficient than traditional hot water tanks.

waterlily 02-08-2018 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by twoplanekid (Post 1512029)
There is another new Bridgeport for sale in Fenney with a major change to the kitchen area. It looks almost identical to one that sold several months ago along 468 in Fenney. The outside area is also unusual with a large pergola and large non-enclosed seating area. These houses in Fenney are interesting in that they are unique/different than other models of the same name up north in TV.

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Was with a Villages Realtor the other day in Fenney. He took me to this house as I was interested in the Indigo & Silverbell floorplan. The home is out of my price range but he wanted me to see some of the changes they are making. He said that the design staff is trying out new things from comments by buyers. If the changed floorplan sells quickly, they try it again. I really liked what I was hearing from the rep about design. It will however cause me to wait a while longer on my purchase to see what other new design changes come along!

waterlily 02-08-2018 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by amexsbow (Post 1513014)
Is natural gas available for homes in Fenney?

All homes have gas AVAILABLE. Not all homes are being outfitted with gas appliances. Even some lower priced designers.

Brenda.ball 02-08-2018 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Goldwingnut (Post 1513102)
Villas have gas also, they are using flash hot water heaters now which hang on the outside of the homes, in the Patio Villas you get to look at your neighbors HW heater when you sit out on your front porch.

The box for the water heater is so small, it is hardly noticed! I do wish they would put a HW booster in the master bath. It takes forever for hot water to get back there.

Daddymac 02-08-2018 03:09 PM

Rentals
 
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Originally Posted by Packer Fan (Post 1509658)
This has been the same every year, until about the first week of February, then they are all gone. I get calls all year just asking even through I show rented on 2 homes. Every year the rents go up. Wish they would rent that well in the off season!

If you are lucky 4 Months Of Rental. But most of the landlords
Get the 3 High Months Jan,Feb, Mar. The rest of the year you are sucking wind,, For most of the landlords it a losing proposition.
THAT IS THE FACTS.

Daddymac 02-08-2018 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by diane reynolds (Post 1509979)
To me, it is disgusting. Rampant development and no requirement for new homes to have solar panels. Money making rules The Villages.

When you bought your home in the villages, did it have solar,

SERENITY52 02-13-2018 01:06 PM

What golf courses. The amenities are not in proportion to the the amenities North of 42. Fenney and Souther Oaks are a sham. It's disgraceful.


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