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Bogie Shooter 10-15-2010 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Pturner (Post 299524)
You are right that I should have been aware of the speed limit on neighborhood roads. Guess I was too busy looking out for walkers, people on bikes and slow moving carts.

Never did spot any slow moving carts.

Or talking on the cell phone.

beartrack 10-15-2010 11:00 PM

So many times on different posts I read people writing how beautiful The Villages is, how well kept everything is. Why would anyone want to whiz by and miss it all. The 15 MPH is on side streets where people live and walk and bike. How far would anyone have to drive on a side street? I often wonder to myself, what's the hurry, we are over 55, most of us are retired. relax, lean back and enjoy this fantastic place. Slow down and wave to people that you don't even know. Go fast if you want to but, I will leave early when I am going and drive the speed limit coming back. The only time I go over the speed limit is when we take a trip. For some reason when we are coming home to The Villages, I suffer from lead foot. Just returned from Fort Myers. Please don't tell anyone but, my GPS said that I was doing on average about 80 MPH, as soon as I turned into The Villages almost every car passed me. HMMM I wonder why?????

Skip 10-15-2010 11:19 PM

30 mph
 
State law says on any residential street, the speed limit is 30 mph. If a municipality (county, city or town) wants to lower it, it must be posted using the state's guidelines as to where and how often the signs should be.

If the street's not marked with a 15 mph sign, then you could ask the judge to through it out as not legal notification.

Skip

Indydealmaker 10-16-2010 01:46 PM

No, We Don't Need Speed Limits! Do We?
 
For those that say 15 mph is way too slow in residential areas, take a look at this photo. Try to remember that there are 80,000 seniors with (admit it or not) diminished vision and reflexes. Even parking lots, where you are not supposed to be traveling any faster than idle speed, can be deadly.

[Picture removed because of copyright infringement. -- tony]

I was a very bad boy. Mea Culpa I should not have reprinted the photo of a serious auto accident involving three cars and two drivers in a PARKING LOT in The Villages. The photo and ensuing caption was published in The Villages Daily Sun today, October 16 on page A9. The point that I was trying to make is that if serious, multi-car accidents can happen even in a parking lot, they are even more likely on our streets. Accordingly, we owe it to ourselves to minimize the risk. Strictly adhering to the moderate speed limits in The Villages is certainly a "free" way to help keep us all safer. And we all know that seniors love "free" stuff.

Please! Let's be careful out there!

Russ_Boston 10-16-2010 04:05 PM

see below

Russ_Boston 10-16-2010 04:08 PM

There are idiots everywhere.

There are impaired drivers everywhere.

There are people who are visually impaired to drive everywhere.

There are just plain bad drivers everywhere.

This is just an example of why posted speed limits are almost inconsequential. This is a parking lot so someone was just being one of the four possibilities above.

chuckinca 10-16-2010 04:15 PM

I hope the parked car was the one with the sun shade on the windshield.


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Mikeod 10-16-2010 05:48 PM

I think you will find that each car was driving along and came to a junction where there was not one of those "superfluous" stop signs so neither one slowed down and BANG!! :22yikes:

getdul981 10-16-2010 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by chuckinca (Post 299702)
I hope the parked car was the one with the sun shade on the windshield.


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Could be THAT's what the problem was - driver forgot to take down the sun shade.

golfnut 10-16-2010 07:01 PM

I did not realize that 15 MPH was the posted speed limit in neighborhoods, I will have to keep an eye out in the future....gn

chacam 10-16-2010 09:42 PM

What statute is that ? ?


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Originally Posted by Skip (Post 299554)
State law says on any residential street, the speed limit is 30 mph. If a municipality (county, city or town) wants to lower it, it must be posted using the state's guidelines as to where and how often the signs should be.

If the street's not marked with a 15 mph sign, then you could ask the judge to through it out as not legal notification.

Skip


memason 10-17-2010 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Russ_Boston (Post 299695)
There are idiots everywhere.

There are impaired drivers everywhere.

There are people who are visually impaired to drive everywhere.

There are just plain bad drivers everywhere.

This is just an example of why posted speed limits are almost inconsequential. This is a parking lot so someone was just being one of the four possibilities above.

:agree: 150%

Indydealmaker 10-17-2010 05:20 PM

I sure hope the auto insurance underwriters don't read this forum. Our rates are high enough now.

snowbird1898 10-17-2010 07:31 PM

I agree
 
I can Certainly agree with this quote... !!! :agree:

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Originally Posted by memason (Post 299119)
Maybe an opposing view....but I read a lot about walkers, joggers, women with walkers, pets, bicyclists, segways, etc. on the streets. If seems to me that the streets were designed for automotive traffic and those are the ones who pay the motor fuel taxes and registration fees to maintain those same streets.

I'm not advocating that everyone drive 60mph in the neighborhoods, but 15mph is very slow. Correct me if I'm wrong, but school zones are designated 20mph. As other have noted, golf carts are passing you at that speed....and I would think even bicycles.


I'm just saying ...


jtdraig 10-17-2010 07:38 PM

Fedwitch, you go girl.....:MOJE_whot:

BigLew 10-18-2010 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by chacam (Post 299801)
What statute is that ? ?

316.183 Unlawful speed.

(1) No person shall drive a vehicle on a highway at a speed greater than is reasonable and prudent under the conditions and having regard to the actual and potential hazards then existing. In every event, speed shall be controlled as may be necessary to avoid colliding with any person, vehicle, or other conveyance or object on or entering the highway in compliance with legal requirements and the duty of all persons to use due care.

(2) On all streets or highways, the maximum speed limits for all vehicles must be 30 miles per hour in business or residence districts, and 55 miles per hour at any time at all other locations. However, with respect to a residence district, a county or municipality may set a maximum speed limit of 20 or 25 miles per hour on local streets and highways after an investigation determines that such a limit is reasonable. It is not necessary to conduct a separate investigation for each residence district. The minimum speed limit on all highways that comprise a part of the National System of Interstate and Defense Highways and have not fewer than four lanes is 40 miles per hour, except that when the posted speed limit is 70 miles per hour, the minimum speed limit is 50 miles per hour.



I do think 15 is reasonable though I've never really seen anyone go less than 20 mph <sigh>

Pturner 10-18-2010 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by jtdraig (Post 299981)
Fedwitch, you go girl.....:MOJE_whot:

huh?

chuckster 10-18-2010 07:34 PM

I agree........... Huh?

Frangyomory 10-18-2010 07:59 PM

speed limits are for safety. get with the program.

LuvItHere 10-18-2010 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Russ_Boston (Post 298832)
Thanks for the warning - I didn't know it was 15mph.

I can only assume a resonable study was done to determine a safe speed. I agree with L2, I never limit my cart when in the neighborhood so I'm probably going closer to 20mph in the cart.

I agree. But now I'm going to ask what is probably considered a dumb question:

Where have you seen a speed limit SIGN that states it is 15 mph limit?!?!?!?!?

I've never seen one (south of 466)!!

Posting signs with the 15 mph limit seems pretty basic, especially when so many people move here from other states!

. . . . Just sayin' . . . .

Halle 10-18-2010 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by LuvItHere (Post 300269)
I agree. But now I'm going to ask what is probably considered a dumb question:

Where have you seen a speed limit SIGN that states it is 15 mph limit?!?!?!?!?

I've never seen one (south of 466)!!

Posting signs with the 15 mph limit seems pretty basic, especially when so many people move here from other states!

. . . . Just sayin' . . . .

Every neighborhood street I have driven south of 466 has a posted speed limit of 15 MPH. Turn onto a neighborhood street off of O'Dell Circle and you will see the posted speed of 15 MPH.

I have not seen a posted speed limit on the multi-modal path except on Morse crossing the bridge, but would like to see posted speed limits.

NJblue 10-18-2010 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by BigLew (Post 300223)
316.183 Unlawful speed.

(2) On all streets or highways, the maximum speed limits for all vehicles must be 30 miles per hour in business or residence districts, and 55 miles per hour at any time at all other locations. However, with respect to a residence district, a county or municipality may set a maximum speed limit of 20 or 25 miles per hour on local streets and highways after an investigation determines that such a limit is reasonable.

Interesting. Does that mean that 15 MPH limits violate state law?

villages07 10-18-2010 09:04 PM

I've been paying more attention to speed limit signs lately. Halle is correct .... as far as I can tell everything south of Lake Sumter Landing has a 15 mph speed limit sign on every side street (designers and ranches...not sure about villa neighborhoods).

But, if you go north of 466 not so consistent. Speed limit sign on Oak Forest Dr (now I can't remember if it was 25 or 30) but nothing on any of the side streets that feed from it.

I really think 15mph is too slow for neighborhood side streets ... 20 (or even 25) makes more sense to me. JMHO.

Russ_Boston 10-18-2010 10:11 PM

I would doubt if anyone, anyone is driving 15mph. If I were a bookie I place the over under at 1%. I've only visited but I have yet to see anyone drive that slow.

Everyone needs to look at themselves in the mirror before you tell me you drive 15 or less. I simply don't believe it. And I won't until I witness it for myself.

otherbruddaDarrell 10-19-2010 07:34 AM

Paint the speed on the road at each stop sign.

spk7951 10-19-2010 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by villages07 (Post 300287)
I've been paying more attention to speed limit signs lately. Halle is correct .... as far as I can tell everything south of Lake Sumter Landing has a 15 mph speed limit sign on every side street (designers and ranches...not sure about villa neighborhoods).

But, if you go north of 466 not so consistent. Speed limit sign on Oak Forest Dr (now I can't remember if it was 25 or 30) but nothing on any of the side streets that feed from it.

I really think 15mph is too slow for neighborhood side streets ... 20 (or even 25) makes more sense to me. JMHO.


Last week I drove through a couple of neighborhoods north of 466 and the speed limit signs read 25mph but south of 466 all I have ever seen is 15mph. So why is there no consistency in the same county?

zcaveman 10-19-2010 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by spk7951 (Post 300348)
Last week I drove through a couple of neighborhoods north of 466 and the speed limit signs read 25mph but south of 466 all I have ever seen is 15mph. So why is there no consistency in the same county?

Which roads? All of the "main roads" - Tally Ho, Belle Meade Circle, Oak Forest for example are 25 mph. I have checked entrances to the villas and residential areas and they are 10 MPH and 15 MPH respectively.

spk7951 10-19-2010 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by zcaveman (Post 300350)
Which roads? All of the "main roads" - Tally Ho, Belle Meade Circle, Oak Forest for example are 25 mph. I have checked entrances to the villas and residential areas and they are 10 MPH and 15 MPH respectively.

San Marino Drive. It does not have a marked golf cart lane just like the roads here in Hadley and the sign reads 25mph.

LittleDog 10-19-2010 01:20 PM

I live south of 466 in Poinciana and haven't noticed any 15 mph speed limit signs. Still looking!!!!

John

ajbrown 10-19-2010 01:24 PM

I live in Mallory (fourth winter) off of Odell and until I read this thread I never noticed a sign at the end of Murphys Estate that said 15 MPH. It is there clear as day, maybe time for that eye exam for me :shrug:

villages07 10-19-2010 03:57 PM

In my travels today....

Bridgeport at Lake Sumter... Limit is 15 on the main road in.

A little further up in Winifred...Kingston road is 25 and none of the side streets that feed off of it have signs so I guess they inherit the 25.

Cross 466 to Polo Ridge and Oak forest Dr ... Limit is 25 with no signs on the cross streets.

So, I assume that somewhere from Bridgeport south they determined that neighborhoods should be 15 and not 25. Same streets, same flows, wonder why the difference.

I'm sure there are highway and road design standards that dictate speed for conditions. Same conditions in two different areas... One is 25 the other 15. How come???? Very inconsistent.

thistrucksforyou 10-19-2010 04:28 PM

mph in a golf cart
 
I have rented there in TV many times and I will be there for 2 weeks after Thanksgiving...Let me say happy holidays everybody....Any way I have rented many golf carts and none of them had a speedometer...How are you suppose to know how fast you are going without one....

Pturner 10-19-2010 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by thistrucksforyou (Post 300484)
I have rented there in TV many times and I will be there for 2 weeks after Thanksgiving...Let me say happy holidays everybody....Any way I have rented many golf carts and none of them had a speedometer...How are you suppose to know how fast you are going without one....

If you're keeping up with all the other carts... you're exceeding the speed limit.

Bill-n-Brillo 10-19-2010 08:33 PM

Take a GPS along with you on your next cart ride. It was an eye-opener for me!! :22yikes:

Bill


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