[ajbrown]

I was enjoying another evening ride around the unfinished sections of TV last night. While cruising Sanibel on Pinellas Place (main road from Morse), I noticed the speed limit on that road is 35 MPH. I cannot think of any other road in TV where the speed limit is 35 MPH and golf carts are not on a seperate path. Am I mistaken?

No controversy, just seemed odd to me...

[Bogie Shooter]

All the other streets off Morse or Buena Vista have speed limits of 30MPH or less. I don't think we can legaly drive our carts on a street with 35MPH.
Does this street have a designated painted cart path lane?

[pooh]

In TV, carts can be driven on roads with speed limits no greater than 35 MPH.

[ajbrown]

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter

All the other streets off Morse or Buena Vista have speed limits of 30MPH or less. I don't think we can legaly drive our carts on a street with 35MPH.
Does this street have a designated painted cart path lane?

It has a cart lane like Morse (north of 466), Odell or St Charles. All of those roads are 30 MPH I think.

[l2ridehd]

Baily Trail is posted at 35 mph with cart lanes on both sides.

[ajbrown]

Originally Posted by l2ridehd

Baily Trail is posted at 35 mph with cart lanes on both sides.

Thanks. That shows how much I pay attention to things, as I am on Baliey Trail a few times a week .

[getdul981]

Bailey Trail is 30 mph.

[downeaster]

Originally Posted by pooh

In TV, carts can be driven on roads with speed limits no greater than 35 MPH.

Buena Vista and El Carmen Real speed limits are 35MPH but no carts allowed. Carts are not allowed to cross them either. LSV's are allowed.

[ajbrown]

Originally Posted by downeaster

Buena Vista and El Carmen Real speed limits are 35MPH but no carts allowed. Carts are not allowed to cross them either. LSV's are allowed.

This is why I was confused to see 35 MPH in Sanibel and cart lanes on the road, especially with heightened awareness of golf cart safety recently. I think getdul981 is right about Bailey trail being 30 MPH also, but I will sacrifice and go for an evening ride tonight to verify .

BTW, Pinellas Place is cut all the way through to Buena Vista (BV) already. Not tarred mind you, but smooth as clay can be. It is so quiet and pretty WAY out there in the evening it is a bit sad there will be houses soon

If you go way out to BV, which you should not do, remember you cannot get back to a cart path from BV south of 466A. You must re-track all the way to Sanibel or do some "4-wheel" driving back the new storage facility by the 466A tunnel near BV.

Please understand, I am not saying it is OK be out there, I am simply letting you know what to do in case you get lost or your dog runs into that area and you have to find her.

[l2ridehd]

Interesting. I based my 35mph on being told that by a cop who stopped me for going 45 on Baily Trail. Talking and gawking and not paying attention. No ticket, just a warning for going 10 mph over the speed limit. Yes, please check it out next time your there. I will be there in two weeks and check as well, but somehow I thought it was 35. But seeing as BV is 35 you may be right that it is 30.

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by pooh

In TV, carts can be driven on roads with speed limits no greater than 35 MPH.

Is this documented somewhere? Which roads with 35MPH do you see non street legal carts driving on?

[angiefox10]

Originally Posted by ajbrown

Please understand, I am not saying it is OK be out there, I am simply letting you know what to do in case you get lost or your dog runs into that area and you have to find her.

That dog sure does get lost.... a lot!

[ajbrown]

Originally Posted by getdul981

Bailey Trail is 30 mph.

Confirmed

PS. What a lovely evening for a ride!

[pooh]

Oops, I stand corrected....it's LSV's that can't be driven on roads that have posted speeds that exceed 35 MPH.

Re: golf carts....here's a bit of the law concerning where they can be driven....

2010 Florida Code
TITLE XXIII MOTOR VEHICLES
Chapter 316 STATE UNIFORM TRAFFIC CONTROL
316.212 Operation of golf carts on certain roadways.
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316.212 Operation of golf carts on certain roadways.

The operation of a golf cart upon the public roads or streets of this state is prohibited except as provided herein:

(1) A golf cart may be operated only upon a county road that has been designated by a county, or a municipal street that has been designated by a municipality, for use by golf carts. Prior to making such a designation, the responsible local governmental entity must first determine that golf carts may safely travel on or cross the public road or street, considering factors including the speed, volume, and character of motor vehicle traffic using the road or street. Upon a determination that golf carts may be safely operated on a designated road or street, the responsible governmental entity shall post appropriate signs to indicate that such operation is allowed.

(2) A golf cart may be operated on a part of the State Highway System only under the following conditions:

(a) To cross a portion of the State Highway System which intersects a county road or municipal street that has been designated for use by golf carts if the Department of Transportation has reviewed and approved the location and design of the crossing and any traffic control devices needed for safety purposes.

(b) To cross, at midblock, a part of the State Highway System where a golf course is constructed on both sides of the highway if the Department of Transportation has reviewed and approved the location and design of the crossing and any traffic control devices needed for safety purposes.

(c) A golf cart may be operated on a state road that has been designated for transfer to a local government unit pursuant to s. 335.0415 if the Department of Transportation determines that the operation of a golf cart within the right-of-way of the road will not impede the safe and efficient flow of motor vehicular traffic. The department may authorize the operation of golf carts on such a road if:

1. The road is the only available public road along which golf carts may travel or cross or the road provides the safest travel route among alternative routes available; and

2. The speed, volume, and character of motor vehicular traffic using the road is considered in making such a determination.

Upon its determination that golf carts may be operated on a given road, the department shall post appropriate signs on the road to indicate that such operation is allowed.

(3) Notwithstanding any other provision of this section, a golf cart may be operated for the purpose of crossing a street or highway where a single mobile home park is located on both sides of the street or highway and is divided by that street or highway, provided that the governmental entity having original jurisdiction over such street or highway shall review and approve the location of the crossing and require implementation of any traffic controls needed for safety purposes. This subsection shall apply only to residents or guests of the mobile home park. If notice is posted at the entrance and exit of any mobile home park where residents of the park operate golf carts or electric vehicles within the confines of the park, it is not necessary for the park to have a gate or other device at the entrance and exit in order for such golf carts or electric vehicles to be lawfully operated in the park.

(4) Notwithstanding any other provision of this section, if authorized by the Division of Recreation and Parks of the Department of Environmental Protection, a golf cart may be operated on a road that is part of the State Park Road System if the posted speed limit is 35 miles per hour or less.

(5) A golf cart may be operated only during the hours between sunrise and sunset, unless the responsible governmental entity has determined that a golf cart may be operated during the hours between sunset and sunrise and the golf cart is equipped with headlights, brake lights, turn signals, and a windshield.

(6) A golf cart must be equipped with efficient brakes, reliable steering apparatus, safe tires, a rearview mirror, and red reflectorized warning devices in both the front and rear.

(7) A golf cart may not be operated on public roads or streets by any person under the age of 14.

(8) A local governmental entity may enact an ordinance relating to:

(a) Golf cart operation and equipment which is more restrictive than those enumerated in this section. Upon enactment of such ordinance, the local governmental entity shall post appropriate signs or otherwise inform the residents that such an ordinance exists and that it will be enforced within the local government’s jurisdictional territory. An ordinance referred to in this section must apply only to an unlicensed driver.

(b) Golf cart operation on sidewalks adjacent to specific segments of municipal streets, county roads, or state highways within the jurisdictional territory of the local governmental entity if:

1. The local governmental entity determines, after considering the condition and current use of the sidewalks, the character of the surrounding community, and the locations of authorized golf cart crossings, that golf carts, bicycles, and pedestrians may safely share the sidewalk;

2. The local governmental entity consults with the Department of Transportation before adopting the ordinance;

3. The ordinance restricts golf carts to a maximum speed of 15 miles per hour and permits such use on sidewalks adjacent to state highways only if the sidewalks are at least 8 feet wide;

4. The ordinance requires the golf carts to meet the equipment requirements in subsection (6). However, the ordinance may require additional equipment, including horns or other warning devices required by s. 316.271; and

5. The local governmental entity posts appropriate signs or otherwise informs residents that the ordinance exists and applies to such sidewalks.

(9) A violation of this section is a noncriminal traffic infraction, punishable pursuant to chapter 318 as a moving violation for infractions of subsections (1)-(5) or a local ordinance corresponding thereto and enacted pursuant to subsection (8), or punishable pursuant to chapter 318 as a nonmoving violation for infractions of subsection (6), subsection (7), or a local ordinance corresponding thereto and enacted pursuant to subsection (8).

History. s. 2, ch. 83-188; s. 1, ch. 84-111; s. 2, ch. 88-253; s. 322, ch. 95-148; s. 4, ch. 96-413; s. 168, ch. 99-248; s. 7, ch. 2000-313; s. 6, ch. 2005-164; s. 3, ch. 2008-98; s. 46, ch. 2010-223.

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[ajbrown]

Originally Posted by ajbrown

I was enjoying another evening ride around the unfinished sections of TV last night. While cruising Sanibel on Pinellas Place (main road from Morse), I noticed the speed limit on that road is 35 MPH. I cannot think of any other road in TV where the speed limit is 35 MPH and golf carts are not on a seperate path. Am I mistaken?

No controversy, just seemed odd to me...

They have changed the speed limit on Pinellas Place to 30 MPH. The world makes sense again