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My Daily Run 04-21-2023 11:09 AM

It is no clogging up his irrigation it is clogging up the filter that he has added to his irrigation

DAVES 04-21-2023 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by wamley (Post 2209267)
The filters aren't like house water filter, but small plastic screens mage to prevent visible debris from clogging the sprayer ports. I have a similar issue in Caroline. I think my issue came fro a head that was disloged my lawn mower and junk got into the line. The service has pulled the heads for the line and vented it, but it still clogs. Although the time period between calls has lengthened.

Far from an expert but when you purchase a whatever that part is called that allows the head to rise it comes with a plastic piece installed. You are supposed to run water to that part before installing the head. That way you blow out all the sand etc that might be in the line. You may need to do every head on that line-starting at the farthest head using one of those plastic pieces. "The service," I assume you are paying a flat fee. They do not want to take the time to do it right.

Bill14564 04-21-2023 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by My Daily Run (Post 2209713)
It is no clogging up his irrigation it is clogging up the filter that he has added to his irrigation

... to prevent the debris from clogging the individual sprinkler heads.

The problem isn't the irrigation heads and the problem isn't the filter, the problem is the amount of sediment that seems to be in the irrigation water.

The utility flushing the lines might make a difference but Sanibel is in CDD9 while the flushing is only planned for districts 5-8.

twoplanekid 04-21-2023 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2209724)
... to prevent the debris from clogging the individual sprinkler heads.

The problem isn't the irrigation heads and the problem isn't the filter, the problem is the amount of sediment that seems to be in the irrigation water.

The utility flushing the lines might make a difference but Sanibel is in CDD9 while the flushing is only planned for districts 5-8.

On April 11, 2022, the NSCUDD Board approved the Additional Services Agreement with Jacobs for the development of an unidirectional flushing (UDF) plan for VWCA and SWCA.

NSCUDD is evaluating what rates are needed to cover future operations in the District 9-11 areas. I would expect that flushing in District 9 will be discussed at a future board meeting.

metoo21 04-21-2023 01:29 PM

Apparently the post about the Additional Services Agreement with Jacobs was NOT read completely. They were referring to flushing the potable water lines (notice the mention of fire hydrants). They weren't talking about the reclaimed water lines. No point in flushing those and wasting potable water as the reclaimed water contains sediment which would be added back to the lines as soon as reclaimed water was returned to the system.

twoplanekid 04-21-2023 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by metoo21 (Post 2209774)
Apparently the post about the Additional Services Agreement with Jacobs was NOT read completely. They were referring to flushing the potable water lines (notice the mention of fire hydrants). They weren't talking about the reclaimed water lines. No point in flushing those and wasting potable water as the reclaimed water contains sediment which would be added back to the lines as soon as reclaimed water was returned to the system.

On April 11, 2022, the NSCUDD Board approved the Additional Services Agreement
with Jacobs for the development of an unidirectional flushing (UDF) plan for VWCA and
SWCA. Flushing of irrigation system pipelines is an essential part of the maintenance program for long-term success with irrigation systems. Flushing prevents the accumulation of small particles and build-up, which can lead to plugging issues.

metoo21 04-21-2023 02:49 PM

Yes, but it is potable water lines they are referring to. Not reclaimed water lines.

len84pa 04-21-2023 03:17 PM

Identifying a problem isn't "stirring the pot". It's apparent that you don't understand a lot of things when it comes to sprinkler water supplied by the Villages. Let me make it as "simple" as I can for you; We pay for reclaimed water for our sprinkler systems. We expect the water to be useable and not cause a problem with our sprinkler system. The next time you have a problem with your TV/Phone/Internet, don't stir the pot and call your internet provider. It's your home and your responsibility. Figure it out. Every time you call an internet / TV service tech they need to get paid and that's why our cable rates are so high.

len84pa 04-21-2023 03:19 PM

So the solution is to remove my inline filter and have all of the sprinkler heads get cloged with the debris !

len84pa 04-21-2023 03:20 PM

Now we are getting to the root of the problem.
Thanks

twoplanekid 04-21-2023 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by metoo21 (Post 2209811)
Yes, but it is potable water lines. Not reclaimed water lines.

The NSU utility system is comprised of 229 miles of potable water mains, 171 miles of sanitary sewer gravity mains, and 30 lift stations. Irrigation water provided by VWCA is comprised of 244 miles of non-potable water mains.

The CSU utility system is comprised of 138 miles of potable water mains, 107 miles of gravity sanitary sewer mains, and 29 lift stations. Irrigation water provided by SWCA is comprised of 143 miles of non-potable irrigation mains.

metoo21 04-21-2023 05:46 PM

Non-potable and reclaimed water are 2 different things.

Per the notice in the post above: "..... It is estimated that to flush all zones, which includes adjusting a total of 3,556 valves
and flushing 1,493 hydrants, ... "

Hydrants would not be fed with reclaimed water. It would most likely be non-potable as it needs less treatment and little to no chlorination.

I believe the OP had reclaimed water at his home for irrigation. If he had a filter in the irrigation line and potable water for irrigation (as is used for some homes above 44), he'd be complaining about his drinking water as they are the same provided by 1 line & 1 meter to his home. Those that use reclaimed water have 2 line to their home and 2 meters.

Bill14564 04-21-2023 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by metoo21 (Post 2209861)
Non-potable and reclaimed water are 2 different things.

Not here in the Villages. Either you have potable water and non-potable, irrigation/reclaimed water and two meters or you have one meter and potable water all around.

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Per the notice in the post above: "..... It is estimated that to flush all zones, which includes adjusting a total of 3,556 valves
and flushing 1,493 hydrants, ... "

Hydrants would not be fed with reclaimed water. It would most likely be non-potable as it needs less treatment and little to no chlorination.
Which is it, absolutely not or most likely not? Perhaps you should ask the experts which water system feeds the hydrants, it could be either.

twoplanekid 04-21-2023 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by metoo21 (Post 2209861)
Non-potable and reclaimed water are 2 different things.

Per the notice in the post above: "..... It is estimated that to flush all zones, which includes adjusting a total of 3,556 valves
and flushing 1,493 hydrants, ... "

Hydrants would not be fed with reclaimed water. It would most likely be non-potable as it needs less treatment and little to no chlorination.

I believe the OP had reclaimed water at his home for irrigation. If he had a filter in the irrigation line and potable water for irrigation (as is used for some homes above 44), he'd be complaining about his drinking water as they are the same provided by 1 line & 1 meter to his home. Those that use reclaimed water have 2 line to their home and 2 meters.

From the District web site and I quote ->

"Home Irrigation:

North of CR 466, homes are irrigated with potable water.
South of CR 466, homes are irrigated with non-potable water which is comprised of storm water runoff that is collected in water retention areas and groundwater from the lower Floridan aquifer when storm water supplies are not available."

metoo21 04-21-2023 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2209877)
Not here in the Villages. Either you have potable water and non-potable, irrigation/reclaimed water and two meters or you have one meter and potable water all around.



Which is it, absolutely not or most likely not? Perhaps you should ask the experts which water system feeds the hydrants, it could be either.

Non-potable means it isn't up to drinking water standards. It can be water from the aquifer but not treated to drinking water standards that would make it potable or it could be reclaimed - again not to drinking water standards.

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Originally Posted by twoplanekid (Post 2209898)
From the District web site and I quote ->

"Home Irrigation:

North of CR 466, homes are irrigated with potable water.
South of CR 466, homes are irrigated with non-potable water which is comprised of storm water runoff that is collected in water retention areas and groundwater from the lower Floridan aquifer when storm water supplies are not available."

Thanks. Storm water would be reclaimed and if you want to extend the definition non-potable because it isn't treated to drinking water standards.


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