I was thinking the same thing. Not cool, folks.

This is why, we can't have nice things...

Most championship courses have an abundance of tee times available (singles and twosomes); just the opposite for the execs - very few tee times. It seems a lot of people prefer free golf over priority memberships and green fees; that's why you seeing an abundance of execs being built.

The reason as to why you shouldn't raise a concern is that you are the one that chose to move down to McClure. Now you raise the concern that there is not a championship golf course being built to your schedule. Maybe you should have waited if it is that important.

Your concern reminds me of the folks back home who move into the new condos in the 'hip' part of town that happen to be next to the train tracks. They then sue the railroad and city because the trains come through at night.

Never said to my schedule.Just basing my concerns based on the past..Since I've been here almost 10 years I've never seen them take 4 years to build a Championship course in an area that needs one or two. Yes I chose to move down here and I don't regret it at all . I have absolutely no problem getting in my car to play golf North of 44 ... please don't tell me I "SHOULDN'T " raise a concern if I have one.

Golf and middle class declinr
 

The number of golfers certainly have not improved since this article was written. There are some tee times on Championship courses in TV that go unused most days in The Villages. The Developer knows what he is doing by not rushing to building more Championship golf courses. You can bet they know what the numbers are and know what they are doing.

Don't forget that there are lots of golf courses outside the villages on 44 and 301.

I agree I hate shopping, most of my shopping delivered to my front door, the wife does the food shopping, I don’t even like going to Walmart.

IMO golf big scam anyway, most can’t even play double boggy golf or drive driver 100 yards. So really no need for more championship courses.

This is high season, there are more open tee times on championships then I have seen in the 9 years we have owned here. Saturday and Sundays are like a ghost town on them. In the past you had to take what ever course was available and not care what time it was. Now I can get most anytime I want even on short notice. I play them 4 days a week, but I can see in the next few years that changing as more birthdays arrive.

As I have mentioned before. Our boys play golf, but no longer as important as it once was. The younger gens want 24/7 Fitness centers with indoor pools and tracks.

As for them and us brick and mortar even for grocery is a waste of my time. Even our parental units shop online, and go to grocery maybe once a month,more out of boredom, than necessity.

Building the village grown is the first of great things to come for those who care about farm to table. Yes they could have put a course there instead, but the developer is looking to what will draw in the next generation.

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I drive south of 44 several times a week to golf at the Fenney courses. It's amazing how much whining people love to do about having to drive.

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But certainly not unusual. :oops:

Yep. I'm sure The Developer pays very close attention to the usage of the amenities. And has consultants who watch trends and advise on what retirees 5-10 years from now will want to be doing (:wave:). I'm really surprised there are not more indoor sport amenities - I expect they cost more to maintain. Basketball courts, indoor pools, indoor tennis courts, steam rooms, etc. Many resorts & time share places have those sorts of facilities. How about a frisbee golf course? Or some unpaved hiking & biking trails?

Golf may have been a big draw 20 years ago, but it is clearly waning in popularity. I'm glad to see The Developer putting in some new things down south.

Getting back to the crux of the matter although I enjoy all of the virtuous jabs too...……

A person who works at the Golf Course and has day to day dealings with 18 hole golf has weighed in above and said that there isn't as much Golf business as there once was. In fact ColdNOMore brought up the idea that Golf is not as popular as it was for many of us born after the forties and fifties.

Me, always a stalwart believer, thinks that the developers are carefully accessing use of Championship courses here and trends nationally. They have done a good job so far and my hope is that someone will not say they are just greedy and want to use the land for houses because then I will have to calm myself down.

I better not say...It's gonna be another beautiful day in The Villages or I will get a P.M. that I work for the developer or get paid by him.

NO and I am not fond of high sugar sweetened stuff in a packet that makes a drink. AND I am not easily taken in.

I love, love, love it here.

I wouldn't be surprised to see a building set up with a bank of screens, so the 'new' retirees...can play video games and tournaments. :D:

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If I had a Golden Goose that kept laying, why would I let the chickens tell it what to do? :icon_wink:

There are a lot of people on this forum who aren't near as funny as they think they are.

Speaking of chickens...…..

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And even MORE fake and passive-aggressive...than they appear to be. :ohdear:

To late!!! When you toke the half hour bus ride from Brownwood to Fenney and you didn’t see any thing but open fields the WTF button should have went off.

I am sure that the amenities will come and not disappoint. It's just the order in which they are being completed. It used to be here is the golf course, the rec center, the town square, and here is your home site.

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Off topic, but is this true? What villages are 5 miles from a grocery store?

With the latest flyover showing they are readying ground for the first commercial center in Southern Oaks, those folks also will have quick access to the market.

Fenny
 

I think that this was all known when Fenny et.al. were first published in the SUN. We closed on our Villa the day Fenny was announced, That has been about 2 years ago.

We've certainly enjoyed reading this thread as we were encouraged to check out Fenney. Thank you to everyone.

We skipped that tour, drove ourselves down from Spanish Springs Marriott. We stopped at the visitor center there and agent suggested we visit Fenney after a short chat. Until then, we knew little about TV. 3 days checking out TV told us a lot, and the forums are very useful.

We live in Oregon and have just embarked on our discovery journey to consider for our retirement home. We were at TV to surprise my aunt on her 80th birthday. She's lived there for 15 years.

We checked out Fenney after sales agent encouraged us to. Spartan, sterile, but new was our first impression, and far, far from everything. Sure, those improvements will come, but driving everywhere is not in our long term plans.

We walked the Spanish Springs and Sumter Lake areas. We took the tram tour offered in the Sumter Lake area. We also drove the East and West side boundaries of TV, as well as the east/West highways that cross TV.

No decisions after visiting for 3 days, so we'll be back later in the fall for an extended stay. We liked how everyone was friendly and welcoming. We also had a chance to visit Trilogy down in Grovelad to visit my wife's friend.

TV is definitely going to be what we compare all other retirement possibilities. Only negatives we see are Summers and lack of Kaiser Permanente as a healthcare/Medicare option.

Question: ever cross paths with anyone from Oregon living in TV?

Mike



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Interesting thread.

According to a poster on another thread, according to The A4 Villages Daily Sun numbers for households whose people claim these states as hometowns are:

Oregon - 69 households

I might have to go and steal their pool. The whole thing. Just - transplant it into my back yard. Pretty sure it'll fit. Would someone please remind me where I parked my magic wand?

Dont see too many people walking home carrying groceries.

True.

I can walk to Winn Dixie in 7 minutes. I do it a couple of times a week when I only need an item or two.

Yes!!

I guess the question is what did you expect when raising the concern...total agreement with you, no dissenting opinion or suggestions on how to mitigate? If someone believes your concern is unwarranted they shouldn't comment? Just curious. The off topic responses excluded.

Aren’t you near the Orange Blossom Country Club? They have the nicest pool in the Villages. Though the Fenney one is very nice.

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When we looked at the model and rendering of Fenney, and beyond the lack of championships wasn’t anything we worried about. Our sales person said a championship was down the road, and would be announced in a year or so, along with retail, that is true.

A Square, Oval, or Circle would come down the road also, just no location had been announced to them. The walking trails of 15 plus miles are now in place, and almost ready.
Instead of a regional center they are building a recreation Complex. We are in the area about 2 days a week, either for golf ( yep we pay for a cart), or the new trails. It’s a bonus to ride a bike,walk, or run without a cart behind you.
Fenney Grill was up an running as soon as homes were ready. It is busy, but by the time we eat there are few people there, just as in any restaurant in the north, We eat out about 3 times a month, and usually go out of TV.

We are still considering a move to the area, it would be our 4th. what worries you is not on my list. I have been down for 5 weeks, and have been to one square, stopped at farmers market once,( I online grocery so don’t care where the store is) drove (too far to cart) to Lopez 3 times, Glenview 4 times, rest locally with the groups I play with.
I am not sure I would use a cart once bridges are done.
Even though the new area is selling quickly it still seams quiet and more laid back compared to where we are now.

Not one pool table...…..

Well sure, but a pool in my own back yard? With a pool boy of course. Named Raul (because of course that's his name, doh).

I believe they are going to be in Linden which is currently under construction.

Now that is something to talk about if it is true! Is this just a rumor or substantiated?