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coffeebean 09-16-2019 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 1681849)
I don't feel safe driving on the Turnpike at all. I try to avoid it, if I can. But, there are no golf carts or bicycles on the Turnpike.

No there aren't......just speeding vehicles.

coffeebean 09-16-2019 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by VApeople (Post 1681859)
Yeah, that usually happens when you make a plea for other people to behave in a manner that suits you.

Well, if that is the way you see it. {{{shrugs}}}

coffeebean 09-16-2019 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Two Bills (Post 1681873)
....but never the driver!!:ohdear:

Totally agree with this statement.

Martian 09-16-2019 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by bob47 (Post 1681862)
I simply don't understand what a post like this adds to the conversation.

It's called humor which conversations today could use a lot more of.

dewilson58 09-16-2019 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by bob47 (Post 1681862)
I simply don't understand what a post like this adds to the conversation.






Ditto.

Nucky 09-16-2019 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 1681978)
Ditto.

Thank You! :1rotfl::clap2::mademyday::ohdear:

BobnBev 09-16-2019 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by bob47 (Post 1681862)
I simply don't understand what a post like this adds to the conversation.

It adds a little levity.....no harm, no fowl...lighten up already.:ohdear:

Topspinmo 09-16-2019 08:58 PM

I don’t pass cart with on coming traffic. If I see DS cart driver that can’t keep the cart going straight. I wait till NO oncoming traffic and steer clear of the cart when I pass. You don’t know if the oncoming car crossing the center line from intention driving, on cell phone, texting, drunk, high, or Just CAN’T DRIVE. I also try not to be beside cart when oncoming vehicles meet in line.

Topspinmo 09-16-2019 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 1681805)
Plea falling on deaf ears. You are going to cause an accident some day.

Really, I sure don’t cross the line when vehicles are approaching. the ones crossing the line are NOT paying attention to traffic approaching

Martian 09-16-2019 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 1682085)
Really, I sure don’t cross the line when vehicles are approaching. the ones crossing the line are NOT paying attention to traffic approaching

Hmm and how do you know what they are paying attention to?

Topspinmo 09-16-2019 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Martian (Post 1682092)
Hmm and how do you know what they are paying attention to?

Well, evidently not keeping between the lines, IF their crossing over WHEN on coming traffic COMING

EdFNJ 09-16-2019 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 1681869)
The Villages infrastructure was built to accommodate a golf cart and cars or trucks driving in the same direction in their respective lanes. Trust the infrastructure.


Ever drive down Rio Grande Ave (PAST where they recently widened the "diamond lanes" but narrowed the car lanes)? Golf cart barely fits and some just don't. Larger Cars and humongous landscape trailers barely fit in the "widened" section. Chances of rubbing the curb there is quite high so "trust the infrastructure" is not the case all over TV.

coffeebean 09-16-2019 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by EdFNJ (Post 1682099)
Ever drive down Rio Grande Ave (PAST where they recently widened the "diamond lanes" but narrowed the car lanes)? Golf cart barely fits and some just don't. Larger Cars and humongous landscape trailers barely fit in the "widened" section. Chances of rubbing the curb there is quite high so "trust the infrastructure" is not the case all over TV.

I agree with you about the infrastructure north of 466. That is why I do not ever drive our golf cart north of 466.

As an aside.....north of 466, were the golf cart paths widened or the street lanes widened? I'm confused by what you said. Either way.....I find it too dangerous driving a golf cart north of 466 and stay clear of that area in the golf cart. I did, however, drive the cart once to Spanish Springs just to say I did. I enjoyed going over the little bridge.

anothersteve 09-17-2019 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by EdFNJ (Post 1682099)
Ever drive down Rio Grande Ave (PAST where they recently widened the "diamond lanes" but narrowed the car lanes)? Golf cart barely fits and some just don't. Larger Cars and humongous landscape trailers barely fit in the "widened" section. Chances of rubbing the curb there is quite high so "trust the infrastructure" is not the case all over TV.

The cart lane on Rio Grande from Avenida Central to Del Mar is especially narrow. To be absolutely safe and stay in the lane you need to ride in the gutter. I see carts wobble in and out of that lane all the time. That is one part of the lane a cart driver really needs to slow down.
Steve

Martian 09-17-2019 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 1682096)
Well, evidently on between the lines, IF their crossing over WHEN on coming traffic COMING


I went back and read the original post, and all it says is "someday" a car might come in the opposite direction.

If you ar responding to some other post in the thread, I apologize, I don't recall it.

VApeople 09-17-2019 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 1682079)
I don’t pass cart with on coming traffic.

Yeah, I don't either. I would rather slow down and wait for the oncoming car to get by and then go around the cart.

Retiring 09-17-2019 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 1681630)
The double yellow lines in the roadways are there for a reason. They define the space you have to keep your vehicle in the road.

I have seen, time and time again, folks crossing over the double yellow lines to give themselves more clearance from a golf cart which is well within their space in the golf cart lane. The roadway I travel most often within The Villages which has the double yellow lines is Odell Circle.

It surely isn't "snowbirds" who are guilty of this at this time of year. It is the full time residents who seem to have a big problem keeping in their space in the roadway. Is it a problem with spacial orientation? Is it a problem with depth perception? What exactly is the reason a driver seems to feel they must try to avoid a golf cart which is perfectly in their golf cart lane by crossing over the double yellow lines?

Do you recognize yourself or do you do this and not even realize you are doing this? One of these days, a car will enter the roadway in the opposite direction from a side street and a head on collision will occur. There is no reason to cross over the double yellow lines. There is plenty of room for four vehicles in these roads........one car and one golf cart in one direction and one car and one golf cart in the opposite direction. All four vehicles can be along side each other in the road and there is plenty of room for all four vehicles. I would, however, yield to a large service vehicle such as a fire truck. In that case, maybe four vehicles would not fit all in one line across the road.

Bottom line......please refrain from crossing the double yellow lines when driving alongside a golf cart which is well withing the golf cart lane. You will fit......I promise.

A rare instance where I get to use my Harvard Medical School education. The reason I rarely use it might be because I didn’t finish.

Anyway, I can appreciate the OPs frustration. You know there is enough room to pass yet you pass wide. The problem might also be age related. As we age, our vision starts to experience problems. A person’s visual acuity can be normal (e.g. 20/20) but other visual factors can present, light sensitivity, glare, poor depth perception, poor side vision, and diminished color perception.

When you pass that GC you (OP) can see there is plenty of room. To a person with “aging eyes” the GC might appear closer than it really is. I say err on the side of safety. If you think you’re too close, pass wide. If it looks like crossing the double yellow will conflict with oncoming traffic, slow till you see a gap in oncoming traffic and pass. Do not pass a vehicle so close as to make you uncomfortable. The last thing we want is you looking down on a bleeding GC occupant saying, I thought I had enough room. As we say in the airlines, when in doubt, take a safety pause.

retiredguy123 09-17-2019 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Retiring (Post 1682191)
A rare instance where I get to use my Harvard Medical School education. The reason I rarely use it might be because I didn’t finish.

Anyway, I can appreciate the OPs frustration. You know there is enough room to pass yet you pass wide. The problem might also be age related. As we age, our vision starts to experience problems. A person’s visual acuity can be normal (e.g. 20/20) but other visual factors can present, light sensitivity, glare, poor depth perception, poor side vision, and diminished color perception.

When you pass that GC you (OP) can see there is plenty of room. To a person with “aging eyes” the GC might appear closer than it really is. I say err on the side of safety. If you think you’re too close, pass wide. If it looks like crossing the double yellow will conflict with oncoming traffic, slow till you see a gap in oncoming traffic and pass. Do not pass a vehicle so close as to make you uncomfortable. The last thing we want is you looking down on a bleeding GC occupant saying, I thought I had enough room. As we say in the airlines, when in doubt, take a safety pause.

I agree. I think that being safe is more important than not crossing a double yellow line. I didn't finish Harvard Medical School either.

VillageIdiots 09-17-2019 01:00 PM

Stay in your lane? How about stay on the road please? I was just out riding my cart over on the new MMP where it also doubles as part of the Hogeye sink walking trail. Here comes a blue Toyota Camry coming from the Hogeye sink area and going around a golf cart only roundabout. Not the first time I've seen or heard about cars getting on the cart paths. There are a couple that I can see how that mistake could be made - that particular area is NOT one of them.

EdFNJ 09-17-2019 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by EdFNJ (Post 1682099)
Ever drive down Rio Grande Ave (PAST where they recently widened the "diamond lanes" but narrowed the car lanes)? Golf cart barely fits and some just don't. Larger Cars and humongous landscape trailers barely fit in the "widened" section. Chances of rubbing the curb there is quite high so "trust the infrastructure" is not the case all over TV.

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 1682106)
I agree with you about the infrastructure north of 466. That is why I do not ever drive our golf cart north of 466.

As an aside.....north of 466, were the golf cart paths widened or the street lanes widened? I'm confused by what you said. Either way.....I find it too dangerous driving a golf cart north of 466 and stay clear of that area in the golf cart. I did, however, drive the cart once to Spanish Springs just to say I did. I enjoyed going over the little bridge.


Read my post again. Quoted above yours.

Topspinmo 09-17-2019 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 1682106)
I agree with you about the infrastructure north of 466. That is why I do not ever drive our golf cart north of 466.

As an aside.....north of 466, were the golf cart paths widened or the street lanes widened? I'm confused by what you said. Either way.....I find it too dangerous driving a golf cart north of 466 and stay clear of that area in the golf cart. I did, however, drive the cart once to Spanish Springs just to say I did. I enjoyed going over the little bridge.

Spainish springs is not north of 466 it’s east or northeast. District 3 and 4 north of 466.

Topspinmo 09-17-2019 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Retiring (Post 1682191)
A rare instance where I get to use my Harvard Medical School education. The reason I rarely use it might be because I didn’t finish.

Anyway, I can appreciate the OPs frustration. You know there is enough room to pass yet you pass wide. The problem might also be age related. As we age, our vision starts to experience problems. A person’s visual acuity can be normal (e.g. 20/20) but other visual factors can present, light sensitivity, glare, poor depth perception, poor side vision, and diminished color perception.

When you pass that GC you (OP) can see there is plenty of room. To a person with “aging eyes” the GC might appear closer than it really is. I say err on the side of safety. If you think you’re too close, pass wide. If it looks like crossing the double yellow will conflict with oncoming traffic, slow till you see a gap in oncoming traffic and pass. Do not pass a vehicle so close as to make you uncomfortable. The last thing we want is you looking down on a bleeding GC occupant saying, I thought I had enough room. As we say in the airlines, when in doubt, take a safety pause.

:bigbow:

Polar Bear 09-17-2019 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 1682221)
Spainish springs <sic> is not north of 466...

???

anothersteve 09-17-2019 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 1682221)
Spainish springs is not north of 466 it’s east or northeast. District 3 and 4 north of 466.

Spanish Springs is north of 466.


Steve

Martian 09-17-2019 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Retiring (Post 1682191)
A rare instance where I get to use my Harvard Medical School education. The reason I rarely use it might be because I didn’t finish.

Anyway, I can appreciate the OPs frustration. You know there is enough room to pass yet you pass wide. The problem might also be age related. As we age, our vision starts to experience problems. A person’s visual acuity can be normal (e.g. 20/20) but other visual factors can present, light sensitivity, glare, poor depth perception, poor side vision, and diminished color perception.

When you pass that GC you (OP) can see there is plenty of room. To a person with “aging eyes” the GC might appear closer than it really is. I say err on the side of safety. If you think you’re too close, pass wide. If it looks like crossing the double yellow will conflict with oncoming traffic, slow till you see a gap in oncoming traffic and pass. Do not pass a vehicle so close as to make you uncomfortable. The last thing we want is you looking down on a bleeding GC occupant saying, I thought I had enough room. As we say in the airlines, when in doubt, take a safety pause.

But, But, But...

Rules are Rules. No exceptions. If you are too old to stay in your lane, why did you move into a senior citizen community. You should haver known you were going to have to pass golf carts here...

Polar Bear 09-17-2019 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Martian (Post 1682237)
...Rules are Rules. No exceptions...

Sorry, but there ARE exceptions.

Martian 09-17-2019 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Polar Bear (Post 1682248)
Sorry, but there ARE exceptions.

Sorry, it was sarcasm

dillywho 09-18-2019 11:17 AM

Just Wondering
 
Where are you supposed to drive to get around maintenance vehicles (yard maintenance, etc.) when your lane is substantially narrowed? That is an instance where crossing the double line becomes necessary......or you can just sit and wait for them to finish, I suppose.

Number 10 GI 09-18-2019 11:54 AM

I will move over when passing a GC after checking for oncoming traffic as the distance between a vehicle and a GC on many of the streets in TV is quite narrow. If for whatever reason the driver of the GC happens to drift a bit to the left they can strike the passing vehicle and the GC will not fare well against a 3,500lb vehicle. That little bit of extra distance I give them could be enough to avert a possibly severe accident for the GC.
My biggest complaint is with the people who seem to always be in a hurry and excessively exceed the speed limit. We are for the most part all retired so why are there so many in such a rush? In TV there are too many slow moving vehicles like golf carts and bicycles on our streets.

coffeebean 09-18-2019 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by VillageIdiots (Post 1682205)
Stay in your lane? How about stay on the road please? I was just out riding my cart over on the new MMP where it also doubles as part of the Hogeye sink walking trail. Here comes a blue Toyota Camry coming from the Hogeye sink area and going around a golf cart only roundabout. Not the first time I've seen or heard about cars getting on the cart paths. There are a couple that I can see how that mistake could be made - that particular area is NOT one of them.

Is there really a golf cart only RAB? South of 44 there are these golf cart only RABs? Can someone take a photo and post it. I'd love to see what it looks like and how it functions. Thanks.

coffeebean 09-18-2019 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by EdFNJ (Post 1682218)
Read my post again. Quoted above yours.

Got it....the car lanes were narrowed and the golf cart lanes were widened. I guess that was to minimize golf cart drivers slamming into the curb or driving partly in the vehicle lane. I still don't drive my golf cart north of 466. Scares the heck out of me.

coffeebean 09-18-2019 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 1682221)
Spainish springs is not north of 466 it’s east or northeast. District 3 and 4 north of 466.

Morse Blvd goes north and south. When I pass 466 heading north on Morse Blvd., anything in that area is north of 466 to me.

anothersteve 09-18-2019 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 1682472)
Morse Blvd goes north and south. When I pass 466 heading north on Morse Blvd., anything in that area is north of 466 to me.

And post #64 proves that point.
Steve

coffeebean 09-19-2019 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by anothersteve (Post 1682476)
And post #64 proves that point.
Steve

Yes, it does. Thanks, Steve.

DAVES 09-21-2019 10:06 AM

As i've posted before
 
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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 1681630)
The double yellow lines in the roadways are there for a reason. They define the space you have to keep your vehicle in the road.

I have seen, time and time again, folks crossing over the double yellow lines to give themselves more clearance from a golf cart which is well within their space in the golf cart lane. The roadway I travel most often within The Villages which has the double yellow lines is Odell Circle.

It surely isn't "snowbirds" who are guilty of this at this time of year. It is the full time residents who seem to have a big problem keeping in their space in the roadway. Is it a problem with spacial orientation? Is it a problem with depth perception? What exactly is the reason a driver seems to feel they must try to avoid a golf cart which is perfectly in their golf cart lane by crossing over the double yellow lines?

Do you recognize yourself or do you do this and not even realize you are doing this? One of these days, a car will enter the roadway in the opposite direction from a side street and a head on collision will occur. There is no reason to cross over the double yellow lines. There is plenty of room for four vehicles in these roads........one car and one golf cart in one direction and one car and one golf cart in the opposite direction. All four vehicles can be along side each other in the road and there is plenty of room for all four vehicles. I would, however, yield to a large service vehicle such as a fire truck. In that case, maybe four vehicles would not fit all in one line across the road.

Bottom line......please refrain from crossing the double yellow lines when driving alongside a golf cart which is well withing the golf cart lane. You will fit......I promise.

My dad taught me to drive in 1968. His main advice was expect people to to the stupidest possible thing because that is exactly what they are going to do. Later it was more politically correct called DEFENSIVE DRIVING.

Almost every accident can be avoided thus they are not really an accident. One or both parties did not remember what my dad said and I've shared will all of you.

Martian 09-21-2019 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by DAVES (Post 1682932)
Almost every accident can be avoided thus they are not really an accident. One or both parties did not remember what my dad said and I've shared will all of you.

I completely agree.

The exceptions are very rare - unless your name is Wile E. Coyote, then watch out for falling safes...


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