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J1ceasar 02-13-2021 07:15 AM

It's very simple if the development is in Sumter. The fee will get paid depending on how the law is written and the type of construction

J1ceasar 02-13-2021 07:17 AM

I can't understand the total lack of common Sense for the commissioners. There's no negotiation necessary they pass the laws. Roll the infrastructure taxes back the way they were to be comparable with the county surrounding Sumter. And result will be real estate taxes go down total taxes collected should stay similar roads will get built. If necessary something will just simply issue a few bonds that are paid by the taxes

Bill14564 02-13-2021 07:18 AM

I couldn't find the article but if the developer in The Villages offered a 40% increase on new homes in The Villages then while it is a step in the right direction, it is a very small step.

- If I understand it correctly, all developers in Sumter County are now paying only 40% of the impact fees. A 40% increase means they will pay 56% of the impact fee. Better, but still a good discount.

- This seems to affect "new homes built in the Villages." If you look at the impact fee schedule, there are rates for commercial development (high), new homes outside the villages (medium), and new homes in the villages (low). This is a 40% increase on the lowest tier only.

- It was reported that it is not legal to charge higher impact fees to one section of the market and not to others. It could be determined that this offer cannot be accepted since it would only apply to a portion of the market (only new homes in the Villages).

The offer, if given in good faith, is a positive sign but be careful not to make more out of it than is really there.

Travelhunter123 02-13-2021 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 1901122)
Congratulations are in order for the new Sumter County Commissioners. Today’s Daily Sun reported that the developer volunteered a 40% impact fee increase on all new homes built in the Villages. That certainly would not have happened if the 5 prior commissioners were still in office. Let the independent analysis and negations finally begin as a starting point has been identified. I will be interested to learn how much of the 25% property tax increase can be rolled back (revenue neutral) under that scenario.

Here is hoping that all parties involved can agree on the appropriate impact fee increase/property tax roll back that strikes the proper balance between putting the financial burden of new development on existing county residents and those responsible for the development.

If there first offer was 40%, I would suggest they are expecting a higher counter offer. I would offer 90%, a 10% discount!

dewilson58 02-13-2021 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by J1ceasar (Post 1901421)
I can't understand the total lack of common Sense for the commissioners. There's no negotiation necessary they pass the laws. Roll the infrastructure taxes back the way they were to be comparable with the county surrounding Sumter. And result will be real estate taxes go down total taxes collected should stay similar roads will get built. If necessary something will just simply issue a few bonds that are paid by the taxes

Share your numbers.

fastboat 02-13-2021 07:45 AM

So if he is willing to offer up 40% he knows he already getting one hellofva deal. Why can't he just pay what the bill is and be done with it? He obviously knows he's been getting a deal at the expense of everyone else. Time to pay their fair share and put the tab on those who benefit from all the roads to THEIR houses!!

Rich42 02-13-2021 07:51 AM

Wonder what this “volunteering” by the developer got him under the table, now and in the future, from the commission?

kappy 02-13-2021 08:06 AM

The Offer Has Strings Attached
 
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Originally Posted by fastboat (Post 1901449)
So if he is willing to offer up 40% he knows he already getting one hellofva deal. Why can't he just pay what the bill is and be done with it? He obviously knows he's been getting a deal at the expense of everyone else. Time to pay their fair share and put the tab on those who benefit from all the roads to THEIR houses!!

While it is a good sign that the developer is willing to come to the table, what they are offering is peanuts compared to the real impact fees of developing south of Rt. 44. Plus they are asking that that rate be frozen for four years. Most other Florida counties calculate impact fees on the real increased costs like fire stations, additional police, additional schools and yes, roads. The 2019 Sumter County study which is supposed to determine the total additional costs to the county ONLY includes the additional road costs. Because of that, the Sumter County taxpayers are footing the bill for all those other costs. It’s time to raise the impact fees to the amount recommended in the 2019 study, without a 60% or 44% discount for the developer. Commissioner Estep campaigned on rolling back the 2019 tax increase and raising the impact fees to the full 100%. Everyone who voted for the EMT team last August and again in November should send an email to Commissioner Estep reminding him of his campaign promise. His email is craig.estep@sumtercountyfl.gov. Remember, impact fees are paid only once, the tax increase in 2019 is included in our taxes EVERY year.

jbrown132 02-13-2021 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by vintageogauge (Post 1901137)
This will have no affect on the 7,000,000 sq. ft. of industrial space TV is building, nor will it affect their commercial and medical development, nor will it affect condos and apartments TV may be building just outside of The Villages. They have a lot going on in Sumter so passing on a thousand dollars or so to each new home will not affect their bottom line.

Even if it affected their bottom line slightly, how many billion do you need.

DanBrew 02-13-2021 08:20 AM

Impact Fees
 
I don't think asking a billionaire how many billions you need is a legitimate question. However, no matter how you slice it, making personal profit on public "investment" i.e. taxes, is just simply wrong. Issue some municipal bonds and let the investors gain a return on their investment.

Topspinmo 02-13-2021 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by DanBrew (Post 1901479)
I don't think asking a billionaire how many billions you need is a legitimate question. However, no matter how you slice it, making personal profit on public "investment" i.e. taxes, is just simply wrong. Issue some municipal bonds and let the investors gain a return on their investment.


You don’t get to be billionaires by spending their own money. You let somebody else pay for it.

dewilson58 02-13-2021 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by jbrown132 (Post 1901468)
Even if it affected their bottom line slightly, how many billion do you need.

Well, if each family member had one.........that would be $18bil. They are $16bil short. You asked.

dewilson58 02-13-2021 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by kappy (Post 1901465)
Commissioner Estep campaigned on rolling back the 2019 tax increase and raising the impact fees to the full 100%.

Haven't you figured it out yet??
Impact fee @ 100% WILL NOT offset a 2019 tax increase rollback.
Why did you vote for them and their "I have a promise, but no plan" ???????????????
:ohdear:

Mfrench 02-13-2021 08:52 AM

M French
 
The developers are billionaires. It’s a drop in the bucket for them.

dewilson58 02-13-2021 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 1901488)
You don’t get to be billionaires by spending their own money. You let somebody else pay for it.

:bigbow:


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