Solution - return it to the way it has been for the past ten years or more.

What advantage is it to villagers on the north side if TV expands into Fruitland Park or Wildwood and the developer wants to lie about cart access from other adjacent communities. Why is the developer still involved in the management of the north side villages?

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I repeat what was the purpose of this original post?

For sure, remember before the wall, nothing was said about Stonecrest, but then the wall was put up so people could not get OUT. Now, the 'outsiders' are all we hear about using the Village trails, when in fact, we are using trails that are not ours, to get to Walmart, etc.

I believe if most people were certain that Stonecrest would be the only community that would ever have/want golf cart access to The Villages, most would agree that it isn't worth the cost or trouble to install resident only gates.

The area around Stonecrest has largely been developed, and for this reason, many both in Stonecrest and the historic district of The Villages aren't worried about golf cart ingress from other communities. However, south of 466, there is a tremendous amount of undeveloped land East, West, and South of The Villages. If golf cart access is allowed from one community, it will make it more difficult or impossible to deny access to other communities. While it may not happen this year or the next, it is highly likely that new adjacent communities will develop, not to mention the cities of Fruitland Park and Wildwood.

A very large portion of the Villagers that I know aren't spiteful, and don't want to punish Stonecrest, but they also don't want to see the Village's cart paths overrun by non-Villagers. The potential for this to happen is very high if access is not limited to Villagers.

Could it be that the OP has been impeached ?? :o

You are a very nice person but if I recall you live in Stonecrest.

Some of us who live in The Villages, that would be me and my family, like how the developer and his family run things here. I have no need to serve on any committees or vote for anyone with big egos.

Where do you find that the Morses are telling lies about cart access?

It is now the Stonecrest ad by the Stonecrest developer that will have to change the lines about golfcart accessible to The Villages.

I like folks from Stonecrest, but you live there and we live here. If we live here and wanted access to your indoor pool would you allow it? You do not allow easy access into your community.

One just makes choices as to where they live and what comes with that ownership and what does not.

Here is the Stonecrest ad that says Stonecrest has golf cart access to The Villages.


http://thestonecrestcountryclub.com/


If I were a builder in business to sell houses, that would be a good line. Business is business don't you know.

Well said, Graciegirl...if Stoncrest residents care to use The Village's cart paths, they are welcome to buy a home in The Villages.

Very well put Gracie. Any other outside community or business developer will no longer be able to use the" access to the villages " ploy in their advertising but no garantee they'll stop.

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"Don't do the crime if you can't do the time". :D

Perhaps the developer is still involved because we of the north side are still a part of the villages?

And as far as returning access to the way it used to be - that should be left as a song concept for barbra streisand or people who are trying to get back their old insurance policies that were canceled.

Post #47 Graciegirl

Right on, as usual - Why does that not surprise me anymore?

[QUOTE=southguy66;780783]For sure, remember before the wall, nothing was said about Stonecrest, but then the wall was put up so people could not get OUT. Now, the 'outsiders' are all we hear about using the Village trails, when in fact, we are using trails that are not ours, to get to Walmart, etc.[/QUOTE]

But we are doing so with the permission and the facilitation of the owner of that path to Walmart/Lowes.

Well said GG

At the bottom of their webpage is an email address that you can click on (info@armstronghomes.net) .... you can always email them and ask why they are advertising "And take a short golf cart ride to all the amenities in The Villages, including shopping, healthcare and entertainment." Now that the gate is in place.

Bogie shooter You are spot on but you won't get a straight answer because the answer is obvious.

This discussion concerning outsiders use of private cat paths is as old as The villages. The main difference finally is that village residents finally recognized that it is a big concern, something I have steadily repeated for the last 7 years.

The Developer is wise in protecting his brand an I for one am thankful that he is doing so because the cat paths are beginning to feel like I-4

Gracie.....Perfectly thought out and written. Now it's time for the Stonecrest advertising team to change their wording, as it no longer applies!:clap2::clap2:

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To bad the friendly village people on this site can't understand this fact.



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[quote=chuckinca;782161]But isn't the difference that the villagers have permission to use the path to lowes/walmart and stonecrest residents do not have permission to enter the villages via golf cart?

[quote=njbchbum;782183]Yes, I think so. I think the problem stems from the fact that Stonecrest could access TV through the Paradise gate for a long time, and now that's been cut off. The difference is that they were accorded that access as a gift, not a right. And now that gift has been taken away, for whatever reason.

Gate was broken open this morning…who did it?

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To bad the friendly village people on this site can't understand this fact.



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I know it sounds unfriendly...and may be, or it just may be that we humans are a bit innately territorial like the animals that we are.

If we buy something and pay for it, it is ours and that if a normal feeling.

Generally most of us Villages humans are altruistic and feel like sharing, but some of the Stonecresters have challenged our rights in a most unfriendly way and like the humans we are, trying to be nice and good, that get's our back up a bit.

But there was no need to break the damned gate. Hope there were cameras.

Stonecresters that have family, or friends in the Villages, don't have a problem going thru the gate, just as in reverse, Villagers that have family or friends in Stonecrest, don't have a problem entering their gate.

That didn’t last long.

We could have a “Gate-A-Lotto” pick a number representing how long the gate will function xx-xx-xx-xx (Days-Hours-Minutes-Seconds). The proceeds could be a 50/50 split with Neighborhood Watch.

Broken already? There is a camera there. I certainly hope it wasn't intentionly damaged. There is no reason for property damage under any circumstances. If it was it's just plain juvenile.

Hasn't a lot of this whole event been rather juvenile?

I hope it was not intentional either. Who knows? The Bonita gate on Canal was broken yesterday and I am sure there were several others. Usually just carelessness or impatience. Just one more reason to tag each golf cart for ID purposes. The perps should pay.

I don't think there are any Stonecresters going to the gate anymore since it is a waste of their time now.

My guess is that one of the Villagers forgot their gate card and couldn't get back in to the Villages after shopping at Walmart. I wouldn't just assume it's a disgruntled Stonecrester that did the damage.

Maybe it was accidental, by a Villager. Check the Security Camera.

It's my understanding that you need the card to get out also. If that's the case, the Villager wouldn't have forgotten their card because they, indeed, got out.

We went through the gate yesterday afternoon. There was a Communty Watch person there when we left out of TV. Upon our return, there wasn't anyone monitoring the gate. The funny thing is that when reached the entrance, the gate was open! I was half afraid to go through thinking it may suddenly close on my new cart. As we passed through, it closed behind us. My guess is that it is malfunctioning in some way. Those that think they will tailgate, it is an iron gate that swings horizontaly, I wouldn't try it.....

I believe the original gate installed about 10 or 15 years ago was removed because it was broken every other week (sort of like many of the gates in TV) - the removal wasn't a gift to Stonecrest.

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The visitor's gate at St. James was broken last weekend too. CUI?

please check the previous thread[s] re 'the wall' where it was reported in lady lake town mtg mins that the gate was removed due to interference with access to paradise dr - a public street...and not because the gate was frequently broken.

Call to arms,gates down North and South
 

Men And Women the time has come to protect our borders,grab your drivers water balls first, save the pro v's for final assault, if it goes to trenches fix putters!The bubble must be protected at all costs!Since I am the closest to the crashed St.James gate
I will take it upon myself to recon Brownwood,Handyman out

Maybe so, but it still wasn't removed as a gift to Stonecrest.

I gotta stay outa some of these discussions. I think I have PMS.

Huh? I thought you said you had hemorroides. :confused:

PMS = Post Misgivings Syndrome?

PMS sounds sexier.:D