[BogeyBoy]

Originally Posted by BigLew

if you watch closely you can also see how few people know what a turn signal is!

I was taught to signal your intentions not your accomplishments. Problem is they are so busy rolling by the stop sign that they don't realize they accomplished a turn in the process!

[Talk Host]

Originally Posted by iandwk

I think all, or at least 99.9% of us disobey some traffic laws on a regular basis. Turning right on red without stopping, rolling through stop signs, going a few mph over the speed limit, etc. I know I am guilty of this and a few more at times. I have been ticketed a few times in my life, and I have never had a right to complain about the ticket because I was doing exactly what I was ticketed for. When we violate the traffic laws we do so with the understanding that we may have to pay a penalty if caught. If we don't have that understanding, we have a problem. No one should consider themselves above any law, no matter how much we dislike that law.

It's our choice. I certainly won't accuse the police of doing wrong when they have ticketed me for doing wrong. That attitude makes me think of my younger brother who was caught breaking in to a house many years ago. He blamed the police for following him around everywhere he went. No one wants to take responsibility for their actions anymore. It's always the fault of someone else.

I believe that it's not just a matter of doing wrong and getting caught......it's primarily a matter of safety. Yours and others. One should not obey the traffic laws for fear of being caught, the motivation should be to not get hurt or killed.

How many people drive under the influence of alcohol and think "I sure hope I make it home without being caught?" How many think, "I sure hope I make it home without killed myself or somebody else?


JLK

[BigLew]

Originally Posted by Ajack

You don't need to take people's money. Just having the police at the corner will have people stop at the sign. Police presence is always a deterrent. It is just down right thievery. IMHO

you stop, no ticket....you don't stop, ticket
not thievery on the part of the cops
stupidity on the part of the driver
(as well as no concern for the safety of others)

[vj1213]

Originally Posted by BigLew

you stop, no ticket....you don't stop, ticket
not thievery on the part of the cops
stupidity on the part of the driver
(as well as no concern for the safety of others)

I agree! (and believe me I've had a few tickets to pay in my life) But I've been more attentive here of signs and speed limits!
but I've found people not only don't know what "Stop" means...."Yield" on the circles is just not in a lot of peoples vocabulary.

[Ajack]

Originally Posted by BigLew

you stop, no ticket....you don't stop, ticket
not thievery on the part of the cops
stupidity on the part of the driver
(as well as no concern for the safety of others)

Beg to differ. But of course there are those that willingly accept higher taxes because they tell you it will go for a good cause. Taking money away from citizens is thievery, no matter the method.

[BigLew]

Originally Posted by Ajack

Beg to differ. But of course there are those that willingly accept higher taxes because they tell you it will go for a good cause. Taking money away from citizens is thievery, no matter the method.

you're right, we shouldn't have schools, hospitals, police army, libraries................

[Ajack]

Originally Posted by BigLew

you're right, we shouldn't have schools, hospitals, police army, libraries................

I said higher taxes. But you knew that.

[LI SNOWBIRD]

Ooper-- really like your Sisyphus GIF.

[Bottaboom]

Originally Posted by Talk Host

I believe that it's not just a matter of doing wrong and getting caught......it's primarily a matter of safety. Yours and others. One should not obey the traffic laws for fear of being caught, the motivation should be to not get hurt or killed.

How many people drive under the influence of alcohol and think "I sure hope I make it home without being caught?" How many think, "I sure hope I make it home without killed myself or somebody else?


JLK

TH you're missing the point. You can roll through a stop sign and still be safe, same thing with right on red.

[uujudy]

Originally Posted by Bottaboom

TH you're missing the point. You can roll through a stop sign and still be safe, same thing with right on red.

Just don't try it at the Sonny's intersection at LSL. We played 'counting the unmarked cop cars' from the patio at Sonny's on Saturday night. It was very entertaining, until the police pulled over a car next to the turn-off for the golf cart path. The golf carts had to maneuver between the stopped cars to access the path. Now that was downright dangerous.

[dillywho]

Remember the story about the guy who slowed down and rolled through? When the cop pulled him over and started writing the ticket, the guy argued that there wasn't a car coming so he just slowed down and continued. When the cop stopped writing and starting banging the guy over the head with his stick, the guy hollered, "Stop!". The cop then asked him if he wanted him to stop or "just slow down".

[Ajack]

Originally Posted by dillywho

Remember the story about the guy who slowed down and rolled through? When the cop pulled him over and started writing the ticket, the guy argued that there wasn't a car coming so he just slowed down and continued. When the cop stopped writing and starting banging the guy over the head with his stick, the guy hollered, "Stop!". The cop then asked him if he wanted him to stop or "just slow down".

Must be a southern joke. Up north we would video-tape the goon and take his undeserved badge away.

[2BNTV]

Originally Posted by elevatorman

We were sitting outside at Sonny"s this evening and saw 6 cars pulled over by the police for rolling through the stop signs. Two unmarked cars working the intersection. FYI

I'm no angel and I should have gotten more tickets in my lifetime but here's my 2 cents worth.

What the police are specifically looking for is "your wheels are still turning". If they determine your wheels are moving at the stop sign, you did not make a full stop and will issue you a ticket.

IMHO - You can disagree and argue your case but you won't be successful.

[Talk Host]

Originally Posted by Bottaboom

TH you're missing the point. You can roll through a stop sign and still be safe, same thing with right on red.

No you can't be safe when you fail to stop.

I am a motorcycle enthusiast and a bicyclist, I can't tell you how many times people have rolled through stop signs and red lights and pull in front of me. Each year thousands of riders are killed. It's the number one cause of death in motorcycling. In almost every case, the car driver says, "I didn't see the motorcycle."

I don't understand the thinking that says, "I'll decide if I have to obey the law or not." A student driver would fail the driving test if they did that.

Applying the same logic, is it safe to speed up to 90 miles per hour if there are no other cars in sight? Most cars can safely handle that speed.

AND COOKIES THAT ARE BROKEN HAVE NO CALORIES IN THEM.

[JenAjd]

Oh...let me get this straight. The red octagon sign that has S.T.O.P. on it doesn't mean stop? It means you can either just go thru it or kind of stop and roll thru it depending on how you are feeling? Also Y.I.E.L.D.---that doesn't mean a "hill of beans" neither...just keep on going no matter what?!
I was taught in driver's education that there are laws and they are there for a reason---public safety. I know I'm being a bit of a smart aleck here but really people...the police are here for a good reason and so are the laws. I love The Villages life-style and all that is here for us to do and enjoy. It's a privilege for us to be here for sure and a great blessing besides. I would love it to be even known for it's safe drivers (cars AND carts)...I've seen far too many near misses to know we don't yet have that reputation.