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Dr Winston O Boogie jr 09-07-2014 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by denise adams (Post 934431)
Can you provide some education to us on how to enter and exit the circles? I think I know the only legal way to do it (per the Sheriff's Dept) but wanted to hear what you'd say. If I'm right, a perfectly safe exit from the circle is impossible

"Its sometimes OK to roll through stop signs if you can clearly see no traffic coming from either direction" was one of the quotes on this thread. Where does the law say thats OK? Or is it more of an "attitude" by the driver?

If you are entering the round about at six o'clock and are going to exit it at three o'clock should use the left hand lane. If you're planning on exiting it at 12:00 you can use either lane. If your going to exit at 9:00 or continue all around and exit where you entered, you should use the left hand lane. How is it that a perfectly safe exit is not possible?

A driver obviously needs to be aware of other cars around him and sometimes we need to make a decision on whether to go in front of a car or slow down and let that car pass. These decisions are made all the time whether or not you're in a round a bout.

tommy steam 09-07-2014 01:20 PM

People will roll thru stop signs until the get a ticket for a moving violation and their insurance goes up. I always stop, full at stop signs. I don't interpret the law to suit myself.

Christine G 09-07-2014 02:22 PM

Lol, taxi or tax, cost you dollars to pay for either.

justjim 09-07-2014 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 934446)
If you are entering the round about at six o'clock and are going to exit it at three o'clock should use the left hand lane. If you're planning on exiting it at 12:00 you can use either lane. If your going to exit at 9:00 or continue all around and exit where you entered, you should use the left hand lane. How is it that a perfectly safe exit is not possible?

A driver obviously needs to be aware of other cars around him and sometimes we need to make a decision on whether to go in front of a car or slow down and let that car pass. These decisions are made all the time whether or not you're in a round a bout.

Dr. I think you meant right lane if you enter the round about at 6:00 and exit at 3:00. Studies do show the round abouts are efficient.

JCMSr 09-07-2014 04:43 PM

While I agree that "most" of the time it is possible to perform a safe right hand turn at an intersection without coming to a complete stop this still does not make this action legal! If the sign says Stop then do so or face the consequences. If the sign say Yield you can proceed without first stopping.

KeepingItReal 09-07-2014 07:14 PM

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Maybe we need a few of these.....

Christine G 09-07-2014 07:47 PM

Yes!

denise adams 09-07-2014 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by justjim (Post 934552)
Dr. I think you meant right lane if you enter the round about at 6:00 and exit at 3:00. Studies do show the round abouts are efficient.

Like you, I also hope Dr. meant the right lane. But, to continue with his scenario, think about this:
Car enters from 6 o'clock and wants to exit at 12 o'clock (get in the left or right lane per Dr. instructions). At the same time, another car enters at 3 o'clock and wants to exit at 9 o'clock (right lane per Dr.). How does the car coming from 3 o'clock continue past 12 o'clock if the 6 o'clock vehicle is in the left lane?
BTW, the sheriff says if you go 1/4 or 1/2 the way around, use the right lane. if you go 3/4, use the left lane. But, wait a minute, they also say STOP at STOP signs, not slow and go so they can't be right:police:

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 09-07-2014 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by justjim (Post 934552)
Dr. I think you meant right lane if you enter the round about at 6:00 and exit at 3:00. Studies do show the round abouts are efficient.

Of course you are correct. sorry about that.

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 09-07-2014 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by denise adams (Post 934698)
Like you, I also hope Dr. meant the right lane. But, to continue with his scenario, think about this:
Car enters from 6 o'clock and wants to exit at 12 o'clock (get in the left or right lane per Dr. instructions). At the same time, another car enters at 3 o'clock and wants to exit at 9 o'clock (right lane per Dr.). How does the car coming from 3 o'clock continue past 12 o'clock if the 6 o'clock vehicle is in the left lane?
BTW, the sheriff says if you go 1/4 or 1/2 the way around, use the right lane. if you go 3/4, use the left lane. But, wait a minute, they also say STOP at STOP signs, not slow and go so they can't be right:police:

It's very simple. You have to either go in front or or behind the other car. You check your mirror before entering the round a bout and make a decision. In fact when I see another car entering the roundabout I start planning on where I'm going to go.

I've been here for a year and a half and have never had a problem.

Are people driving with blindfolds on? Can they not see the other cars? Do they not have mirrors on their cars?

It's not rocket science. Make sure that your car and another car don't try to occupy the same space at the same time.

Mikeod 09-07-2014 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by denise adams (Post 934698)
Like you, I also hope Dr. meant the right lane. But, to continue with his scenario, think about this:
Car enters from 6 o'clock and wants to exit at 12 o'clock (get in the left or right lane per Dr. instructions). At the same time, another car enters at 3 o'clock and wants to exit at 9 o'clock (right lane per Dr.). How does the car coming from 3 o'clock continue past 12 o'clock if the 6 o'clock vehicle is in the left lane?
BTW, the sheriff says if you go 1/4 or 1/2 the way around, use the right lane. if you go 3/4, use the left lane. But, wait a minute, they also say STOP at STOP signs, not slow and go so they can't be right:police:

The car coming from 3 o'clock should not enter until after the cars that entered at 6 o'clock have passed. You don't enter if there are cars in either lane to your left already in the roundabout. That means that even if there is only a car in the inside lane, you still don't enter the outside lane until they have passed. This prevents the scenario you described from happening.

Bonanza 09-07-2014 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Christine G (Post 934371)
I don't need a taxi thanks, I obey the rules of the road and the laws of the state , thanks very much!

NYGUY didn't say taxi . . .

He said T A X !!!

NYGUY 09-07-2014 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 934717)
....It's not rocket science....

Don't be so sure....:22yikes:

NYGUY 09-07-2014 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Bonanza (Post 934731)
NYGUY didn't say taxi . . .

He said T A X !!!

Thanks Bonanza, I tried, but somedays it does no good!!

dotti105 09-08-2014 12:37 AM

Anywhere you might be, you will find drivers who think the laws do not apply to the. Thus the stop sign issues.

Cameras would be very effective in catching those offenders. Word would spread like wildfire and The Villages would be a safer place to drive, certainly.

The "round a bouts" are a very effective means of traffic control. There are simply too many drivers who do not understand how to use them and want to make up their own rules. That is what makes them dangerous. If everyone drove them as intended, there would not be a problem.

Pedestrians do have the right of way. Coming out of a store where there is a marked crosswalk it is the drivers responsibility to yield to the pedestrians. There is often a series of shoppers leaving and it can be frustrating to wait. But it is the drivers who are to yield.

I'm not talking about "jay walkers". I'm talking about marked crosswalks in shopping areas.

Many people have a "me first" attitude and feel entitled behind the wheel. We all need to drive very defensively and with courtesy. That would solve any of the problems we see here. Oh yes, and call about getting cameras put in at major intersections. It would be safer and a real moneymaker for these small counties.


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