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queasy27 04-14-2020 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by EdFNJ (Post 1745838)
we weren't thinking about the floor but only getting my Spaghetti O's (out of stock of course).

Sorry about your SpaghettiOs, Ed! I was doing a happy dance today when, after being out of stock for weeks, I finally scored two of my favorite penne and sausage frozen dinner.

I was at Publix Southern Trace on Saturday and didn't notice the blue arrows until I'd been down a couple of aisles. As far as store policies go, I'm more appreciative of restricting the number of customers, installing plexi shields at checkout stands, and of employees who wear masks. Especially at the deli counter.

I wouldn't mind alternate shopping days like during the '79 oil crisis. Heck, maybe we're even heading back to the days of rationing coupons!

OrangeBlossomBaby 04-14-2020 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by queasy27 (Post 1746161)
Sorry about your SpaghettiOs, Ed! I was doing a happy dance today when, after being out of stock for weeks, I finally scored two of my favorite penne and sausage frozen dinner.

I was at Publix Southern Trace on Saturday and didn't notice the blue arrows until I'd been down a couple of aisles. As far as store policies go, I'm more appreciative of restricting the number of customers, installing plexi shields at checkout stands, and of employees who wear masks. Especially at the deli counter.

I wouldn't mind alternate shopping days like during the '79 oil crisis. Heck, maybe we're even heading back to the days of rationing coupons!

Alternate shopping days were a headache. But also the population of the country was only 225 million, and the big box stores hadn't been invented yet so there many more stores of smaller size, so the population was better able to spread out and not all be stuck in the same inside spaces.

Today, there are 331 million, big box stores are a thing which attracts millions of people to them - and there aren't as many ma and pa stores in existence to accommodate them all, should they become overfilled.

Bridget Staunton 04-14-2020 01:54 PM

I think one way aisles is a great idea

JoMar 04-14-2020 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Swoop (Post 1746083)
So, spending more time in an enclosed space makes more sense to you?

No, but neither does chaos and people bumping in to people. If you believe masks, gloves and spacing works then the risk in a store should be minimal. If you don't then don't go.

DianeM 04-14-2020 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by JoMar (Post 1746181)
No, but neither does chaos and people bumping in to people. If you believe masks, gloves and spacing works then the risk in a store should be minimal. If you don't then don't go.

Gee but I’ve been grocery shopping forever and never bumped into anyone or experienced any sort of chaos. Where in the world do you shop? I wore a mask last week and hated every second of that. I do not wear gloves because I can wash my hands. Common sense has to take control and 1/2” tape on the floor is meaningless.

coffeebean 04-14-2020 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1746087)
I really miss ice cream.

Hubby was actually able to get Ben and Jerry's New York Super Fudge Chunk ice cream at Winn Dixie. Yay! I haven't had that in ages since I usually treat myself to ice cream in either Kilwins or Hershey's in Brownwood. It was so weird to actually have a pint of ice cream in our freezer. He got it home still frozen.

coffeebean 04-14-2020 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Vknanu3 (Post 1746100)
Almost everyone is wearing masks at the grocery store. Social distancing was started to keep unmasked people from transmitting or contracting the virus.
So why are we so obsessive about this now?
Think!

We are still to be social distancing and washing our hands frequently. Wearing masks in areas where social distancing is not as easy to maintain is just an added bonus. We are not to be slacking off on the guidelines which have been in place prior to the request that we wear face protection too.

coffeebean 04-14-2020 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by DianeM (Post 1746102)
Because probably at least 50% are NOT wearing masks. Personally I think this one way aisle designation is a waste of time but just as a result of trying to do SOMETHING when feeling helpless.

I haven't been to any grocery stores in quite a while and have not seen the one way aisles. My aim is to get in the store and get out as quickly as possible. (I don't mow anyone down so don't worry about that!) One way aisles will be a hindrance to getting in and out quickly. Hope I''m wrong about that.

golfing eagles 04-14-2020 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Bridget Eichaker (Post 1746167)
I think one way aisles is a great idea

In theory, but people are generally clueless. Then of course you get the couple just standing in the aisle blocking with their cart while they decide between the 1% and 2% milk.
Before someone says it, NO I AM NOT WAITING.
Yesterday at Sam's Club I went to get something from one of the refrigerators and a woman was just standing in front of talking on her cell phone. When I said "excuse me" her response was "I'll be done in a minute or two". My response of course was "unless you want me 4 inches from your face, you're done NOW. I'm sure the cell reception is just as good 6 feet further down the aisle"

DianeM 04-14-2020 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1746193)
In theory, but people are generally clueless. Then of course you get the couple just standing in the aisle blocking with their cart while they decide between the 1% and 2% milk.
Before someone says it, NO I AM NOT WAITING.
Yesterday at Sam's Club I went to get something from one of the refrigerators and a woman was just standing in front of talking on her cell phone. When I said "excuse me" her response was "I'll be done in a minute or two". My response of course was "unless you want me 4 inches from your face, you're done NOW. I'm sure the cell reception is just as good 6 feet further down the aisle"

I would have said the same thing to cell phone Sally.

coffeebean 04-14-2020 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1746193)
In theory, but people are generally clueless. Then of course you get the couple just standing in the aisle blocking with their cart while they decide between the 1% and 2% milk.
Before someone says it, NO I AM NOT WAITING.
Yesterday at Sam's Club I went to get something from one of the refrigerators and a woman was just standing in front of talking on her cell phone. When I said "excuse me" her response was "I'll be done in a minute or two". My response of course was "unless you want me 4 inches from your face, you're done NOW. I'm sure the cell reception is just as good 6 feet further down the aisle"

How can people be so clueless and inconsiderate? It baffles me.

coffeebean 04-14-2020 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1746193)
In theory, but people are generally clueless. Then of course you get the couple just standing in the aisle blocking with their cart while they decide between the 1% and 2% milk.
Before someone says it, NO I AM NOT WAITING.
Yesterday at Sam's Club I went to get something from one of the refrigerators and a woman was just standing in front of talking on her cell phone. When I said "excuse me" her response was "I'll be done in a minute or two". My response of course was "unless you want me 4 inches from your face, you're done NOW. I'm sure the cell reception is just as good 6 feet further down the aisle"

What was her response? Did she move her ass?

golfing eagles 04-14-2020 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 1746274)
What was her response? Did she move her ass?

Yep, after showing quite a bit of "attitude". She was about 400#, so I didn't want to get sat on.

Topspinmo 04-14-2020 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Jazzman (Post 1745975)
They should hang the arrows in a placard from the ceiling. Most people don’t look at the floor when walking.

Especially pushing cart.:)

coffeebean 04-14-2020 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1746283)
yep, after showing quite a bit of "attitude". She was about 400#, so i didn't want to get sat on.

lol!

xcaligirl 04-14-2020 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Rapscallion St Croix (Post 1745714)
One-way aisles to facilitate social distancing. They are doing this in Northern Virginia now.

I was in Publix and saw an arrow in the MIDDLE of the aisle, not on the entrance or exit. That really doesn't help the customer... I haven't been to any other Publix's in the area, just one that I normally won't go into due to 'poor service'

OrangeBlossomBaby 04-14-2020 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 1746189)
Hubby was actually able to get Ben and Jerry's New York Super Fudge Chunk ice cream at Winn Dixie. Yay! I haven't had that in ages since I usually treat myself to ice cream in either Kilwins or Hershey's in Brownwood. It was so weird to actually have a pint of ice cream in our freezer. He got it home still frozen.

I'll have to check tomorrow morning then. I know Publix doesn't carry Talenti banana caramel fudge swirl, but maybe I can find B&J's coffee toffee crunch. And god forbid anyone down here ever heard of Giffords and the planet might just bust open. What I wouldn't give for their toasted coconut. Le sigh.

JoMar 04-14-2020 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by DianeM (Post 1746188)
Gee but I’ve been grocery shopping forever and never bumped into anyone or experienced any sort of chaos. Where in the world do you shop? I wore a mask last week and hated every second of that. I do not wear gloves because I can wash my hands. Common sense has to take control and 1/2” tape on the floor is meaningless.

That was my response to a previous poster who wants it to be the same way. So for those that want to rush through and those that are willing to help each other trying to occupy the same space will create chaos....it has happened when hurricanes come here and really occurs when nor'easters hit the mid atlantic. The good news is it appears the majority seem to get it.

EdFNJ 04-14-2020 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1746344)
I'll have to check tomorrow morning then. I know Publix doesn't carry Talenti banana caramel fudge swirl,

Ohhhhh but they do! Likely just out of stock. Just finished our 2nd pint last night from a couple weeks ago BOGO at Publix Colony ! I love the little rubber balls on the bottom. :D Now we have to work on the 2 Caribbean Coconut!

They are "vendor filled" items so the store doesn't order by flavor, it up to the vendor rep guy filling the freezer what they get depending on what's on his truck at the time. PRO TIP: Best selection is the day or 2 BEFORE the BOGO starts. You pay more but get better selection :D :D :D :1rotfl:

DianeM 04-14-2020 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by JoMar (Post 1746359)
That was my response to a previous poster who wants it to be the same way. So for those that want to rush through and those that are willing to help each other trying to occupy the same space will create chaos....it has happened when hurricanes come here and really occurs when nor'easters hit the mid atlantic. The good news is it appears the majority seem to get it.

Not sure I follow but I’ve been here for hurricanes and saw no chaos - crowded but no chaos. Most people, if they brave going to the store, do not want to make an all day project out of it.

Swoop 04-14-2020 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by JoMar (Post 1746181)
No, but neither does chaos and people bumping in to people. If you believe masks, gloves and spacing works then the risk in a store should be minimal. If you don't then don't go.

Chaos & bumping into people? The stores are already limiting customers to a fraction of their rated capacity. Before limiting the number of shoppers, there wasn’t chaos. Directional isles only slow things down further, without any benefit. I don’t know about you, but I don’t really want to spend more time in the store than necessary. If you are that uncomfortable in a grocery store, just get someone to shop for you, or get your groceries delivered.

OrangeBlossomBaby 04-14-2020 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Swoop (Post 1746372)
Chaos & bumping into people? The stores are already limiting customers to a fraction of their rated capacity. Before limiting the number of shoppers, there wasn’t chaos. Directional isles only slow things down further, without any benefit. I don’t know about you, but I don’t really want to spend more time in the store than necessary. If you are that uncomfortable in a grocery store, just get someone to shop for you, or get your groceries delivered.

Publix isn't limiting the customer capacity. Some of the stores were already pretty busy during certain times of the day before the virus. Once the virus hit and people swarmed to get items they thought they'd need in case the country shut down, it was pretty chaotic in some of the aisles. Especially canned veggies and fruits, and the cereal and bread aisles.

We're supposed to try and maintain a 6' distance from each other. That's impossible to do if you have a cart on the other side of the aisle with a woman standing to the side of it in the middle of the aisle, checking products while another person is slightly ahead of you stopped to read labels, and you have to squeeze between the two to get past them to where you want to be. Soon as you do that you are now putting three different people in jeopardy. Now multiply that situation by 10, in each very long aisle, at the same time employees have their floats stacked with boxes of product that they have to unpack and put on the shelves.

If you limit it to one-way aisles, you reduce the number of people in the aisle at any given moment and provide some semblance of order during busy times. This reduces the risk of getting too close to the other people.

The concern isn't that they're bumping into each other - which happens. The concern is getting too close. You can't carry around a measuring tape and measure 6 feet to ensure no one is crossing the line. But you can estimate if you're barely an arms-length away from someone else.

One way traffic reduces that risk.

Nucky 04-15-2020 02:58 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1746283)
Yep, after showing quite a bit of "attitude". She was about 400#, so I didn't want to get sat on.

LOL :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl: I hate to tell you who she was on the phone with GE. I'll let you guess. :ohdear:

I saw a young lady in he mid 30's coming out of Publix today with 4 children between 8 & 12. No Mask's, No Gloves probably no responsible adult at home to leave them with. Who knows? This woman was stressed out. I try not to judge. I understand and agree with leaving the extra tonnage at home. Let us not forget some people have no choice to do the things the do.

I have given up totally on going inside anywhere to buy anything. The Pick up stores are Walmart, Publix, Sam's and the mail it to me joints are Amazon & Boxed and Boll & Branch! :boxing2: The people who bring our orders out are stressed and many of them choose to not wear a mask. They are the nicest people and I don't rag on them about their choices cause they are over the age of 3 times 7 but I do make them stand back while we're talking because their problem isn't gonna become mine. The Publix Pharmacy even will bring out your prescriptions if you pay for the order when they notify you it's ready.

I try not to put myself in a spot where any social distancing mistake can be made but if it looks like its gonna happen I'm not gonna let it happen. Case :boxing2: Closed!

santiagobob 04-15-2020 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Swoop (Post 1745919)
So, explain to me how passing someone going in the same direction in the isle is that much safer than passing someone going in the opposite direction?!?!? In theory you should spend less time within their 6’ social distancing space if you pass them going the opposite way.

You cannot keep 6 feet of separation if you are passing someone.You must stop and follow the person in front of you just like you are in a line. If you pass the person in front of you, you are a line jumper.

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 04-15-2020 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Swoop (Post 1745919)
So, explain to me how passing someone going in the same direction in the isle is that much safer than passing someone going in the opposite direction?!?!? In theory you should spend less time within their 6’ social distancing space if you pass them going the opposite way.

First of all, you don't have to pass people going in the same direction. You can simply wait until they move. But it will reduce the number of people that are in a hurry and decide to pass within six feet.

Nothing is perfect and not everyone is going to obey. But if we can reduce the amount of close contact it will be better.

I still have met people telling me that this is no big deal and that nothing should be closed. Fortunately, they are few and far between. I believe that the reason that this virus hasn't spread like wild fire in The Villages is that, because so many of us are in very high risk categories that the vast, vast majority are following the social distancing rule and other recommended procedures.

santiagobob 04-15-2020 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by DianeM (Post 1746085)
Nonsense. Do you not pass the car doing 20 on a 45 road? I’m not standing behind some label reader when I want to get in and out as quickly as possible.

So you think it is proper to cut in front of the person in line in front of you. A one way aisle is not a highway, it's the same as in the check out line or a line at a movie theater. It's far better to wait 6' back than to pass within 6" of another person, give them space.

NewRealms 04-15-2020 09:51 AM

How childish. Should we line up eyes front with our hands by our sides too?

sipops 04-15-2020 09:57 AM

Publix is doing it but a lot of people are not fooling the arrows. If a worker sees someone going in the wrong direction they should stop and explain the new way of navigating the store.QUsOTE=Rapscallion St Croix;1745714]One-way aisles to facilitate social distancing. They are doing this in Northern Virginia now.[/QUOTE]

coffeebean 04-15-2020 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by santiagobob (Post 1746606)
You cannot keep 6 feet of separation if you are passing someone.You must stop and follow the person in front of you just like you are in a line. If you pass the person in front of you, you are a line jumper.

Sorry, I don't agree with this. I'm not going to wait "in line" for a person ahead of me to stand in the aisle reading labels. It's just not going to happen. I hold my breath as I wear my mask and break out of "the line" and move on my way as quickly as it is to be safe.

coffeebean 04-15-2020 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by santiagobob (Post 1746633)
So you think it is proper to cut in front of the person in line in front of you. A one way aisle is not a highway, it's the same as in the check out line or a line at a movie theater. It's far better to wait 6' back than to pass within 6" of another person, give them space.

Nope, I'm not going to wait for someone who is reading labels and undecided about what to buy. Hold my breath until I get past them. I'm not cutting a line. Be real!

golfing eagles 04-15-2020 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by santiagobob (Post 1746633)
So you think it is proper to cut in front of the person in line in front of you. A one way aisle is not a highway, it's the same as in the check out line or a line at a movie theater. It's far better to wait 6' back than to pass within 6" of another person, give them space.

Totally and completely IDIOTIC

It is not a line like check out or a movie, it's more like the cart lane on the side of the road. If you come up on cyclist going 3 mph, are you supposed to "wait for him"? If 2 pedestrians are in the middle of the cart lane having a conversation are you supposed to stop and wait for them to be done?

Scratch that idiotic label---more like MORONIC

DianeM 04-15-2020 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by santiagobob (Post 1746606)
You cannot keep 6 feet of separation if you are passing someone.You must stop and follow the person in front of you just like you are in a line. If you pass the person in front of you, you are a line jumper.

I pass the person doing 20 on a 40 MPH road and I’ll be passing the couple reading labels on every box of cereal. I want in and out. Food shopping is not an excursion.

DianeM 04-15-2020 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by santiagobob (Post 1746633)
So you think it is proper to cut in front of the person in line in front of you. A one way aisle is not a highway, it's the same as in the check out line or a line at a movie theater. It's far better to wait 6' back than to pass within 6" of another person, give them space.

The aisles are more than wide enough to pass. I’m not making a day of it getting groceries. I would never cut the check out line but I’m not waiting while mr. and mrs. label reader analyze every type of Cheerios.

DianeM 04-15-2020 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by NewRealms (Post 1746683)
How childish. Should we line up eyes front with our hands by our sides too?

Nailed it. Maybe by height as well.

WhoDat 04-15-2020 12:17 PM

This would only work well at military commissaries. They know how to follow orders!

DianeM 04-15-2020 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by WhoDat (Post 1746816)
This would only work well at military commissaries. They know how to follow orders!

We are civilians. We are not under martial law. The one way designation is a suggestion. No one orders me around in a supermarket


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