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GrumpyOldMan 06-20-2021 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by richs631 (Post 1962368)
Please guys let’s not over analyze this. A 2 gallon can is more than enough to fill a standard lawn mower at least 4 times and is plenty safe to store in your garage. Your house is not going to blow up because you have a 2 gallon gas can stored

If it is a gasoline storage can, that is not damaged. Two gallons is more than enough accelerant to burn your house down - but NOT if you take simple precautions.

Actually, the correct place for the OP to ask this question was at any fire station in TV.

If it is too hard to ask the Fire Department - here is some useful information:

http://ameriburn.org/wp-content/uplo...atorsguide.pdf

MrFlorida 06-20-2021 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Velvet (Post 1961499)
I’m leaning towards storing gas in the car’s tank. And when I need it just siphon it into the gas can and then whatever is not used siphon back. Any suggestions?

You will not be able to siphon gas out of your car's tank, there is an anti rollover valve in the fill at the bottom near the tank.... a siphon hose will never be able to enter the tank.

Dimagolfer 06-20-2021 11:51 AM

Gas Storage
 
Storing gas containers 1 to 5 gal. in garages, barns, storage sheds, golf cart garage for 60 years with no issues!

Velvet 06-20-2021 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by GrumpyOldMan (Post 1962380)
If it is a gasoline storage can, that is not damaged. Two gallons is more than enough accelerant to burn your house down - but NOT if you take simple precautions.

Actually, the correct place for the OP to ask this question was at any fire station in TV.

If it is too hard to ask the Fire Department - here is some useful information:

http://ameriburn.org/wp-content/uplo...atorsguide.pdf

Great idea. I will ask, next door neighbor is a retired fireman.

MrFlorida 06-20-2021 02:13 PM

Buy a battery powered lawn mower , and sleep well at night.

golfing eagles 06-20-2021 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by MrFlorida (Post 1962402)
You will not be able to siphon gas out of your car's tank, there is an anti rollover valve in the fill at the bottom near the tank.... a siphon hose will never be able to enter the tank.

Please read post #40, and get the person from post #51 to read it with you:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

GrumpyOldMan 06-20-2021 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Dimagolfer (Post 1962460)
Storing gas containers 1 to 5 gal. in garages, barns, storage sheds, golf cart garage for 60 years with no issues!

Hmm, so, have you ever had an Aortic Aneurysm? If not, that must mean they don't happen.

GrumpyOldMan 06-20-2021 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by MrFlorida (Post 1962535)
Buy a battery powered lawn mower , and sleep well at night.

EXCELLENT suggestion!

GrumpyOldMan 06-20-2021 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Velvet (Post 1962505)
Great idea. I will ask, next door neighbor is a retired fireman.

Good idea!

Bill14564 06-20-2021 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by GrumpyOldMan (Post 1962549)
Hmm, so, have you ever had an Aortic Aneurysm? If not, that must mean they don't happen.

Never been hit by falling space debris, never had a part off an airplane fall on my head, never been hit by a foul ball but I *could* wear a helmet 24 hours a day just in case.

I wonder if there is any data on the number of fires caused by the storage of five gals or less of gasoline in an approved container (gas can)? Not speculation on what *could* happen and not damage caused when a fire engulfed a gas can but a fire *caused* by the can. There have been a whole lot of people storing gas in this way for decades - if it was a problem then there ought to be statistics out there somewhere.

GrumpyOldMan 06-20-2021 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 1962586)
Never been hit by falling space debris, never had a part off an airplane fall on my head, never been hit by a foul ball but I *could* wear a helmet 24 hours a day just in case.

I wonder if there is any data on the number of fires caused by the storage of five gals or less of gasoline in an approved container (gas can)? Not speculation on what *could* happen and not damage caused when a fire engulfed a gas can but a fire *caused* by the can. There have been a whole lot of people storing gas in this way for decades - if it was a problem then there ought to be statistics out there somewhere.

I don't know if there is data on the number of fires caused by 5 gals or more. B ut I do know the fire department takes storing gasoline very seriously, and that numerous residential fires are caused every year by flammable liquids.

"According to the NFPA, every year more than 50,000 fires start as the result of flammable gas while more than 160,000 fires start as the result of a flammable or combustible liquid. Combined, flammable and combustible liquids and gases cause more than $2.1 billion worth of property damage and more than 600 deaths annually."

So, at 3,000 AAA's (Abdominal Aortic Aneurysms) deaths per year, there are more house fires caused by flammable liquids than those, but I bet your doctor would take your AAA very seriously - ask me how I know...

Effects of Fire | Home Fire Statistics | The Hartford

Bill14564 06-20-2021 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by GrumpyOldMan (Post 1962606)
I don't know if there is data on the number of fires caused by 5 gals or more. B ut I do know the fire department takes storing gasoline very seriously, and that numerous residential fires are caused every year by flammable liquids.

"According to the NFPA, every year more than 50,000 fires start as the result of flammable gas while more than 160,000 fires start as the result of a flammable or combustible liquid. Combined, flammable and combustible liquids and gases cause more than $2.1 billion worth of property damage and more than 600 deaths annually."

So, at 3,000 AAA's (Abdominal Aortic Aneurysms) deaths per year, there are more house fires caused by flammable liquids than those, but I bet your doctor would take your AAA very seriously - ask me how I know...

Effects of Fire | Home Fire Statistics | The Hartford

NFPA Fact Sheet on flammable gas and combustible liquids fires:
- 50,000 flammable gas fires nearly all involve natural gas, LP-gas, or unknown-type gas
- 160,000 combustible liquid fires include 55,000 fires at home
- gasoline involved in 6% combustible liquid first ignited in home structure fires = approximately 3,300 gasoline-ignited home fires
- no mention of whether gasoline was stored in approved containers

NFPA article on hoarding gasoline, May 31,2021:
These same listed, labeled, and approved containers with a cap are the only suitable way to store gasoline in garages and sheds.
...
Store gasoline in a tightly capped container that has been listed, labeled, and approved for gasoline.
Store the container outside the home in your garage or garden shed, never in your basement.



So about 1.5% (3,300/year) of home fires caused by flammable gas or liquids were attributed to gasoline. However, there was no mention of whether the gasoline was stored in approved containers.

The NFPA recommends approved containers when storing gasoline in a garage.

TCNY61 06-20-2021 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by MrFlorida (Post 1962535)
Buy a battery powered lawn mower , and sleep well at night.

Maybe not so much!

Tesla set itself on fire and exploded in Shanghai China! - YouTube

GrumpyOldMan 06-20-2021 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by TCNY61 (Post 1962713)

I hope this was in jest.

About 250 million miles per fire with Tesla's. Wanna look at how many ICE power cars burst into flame.

Freaking amazing.

Mrprez 06-21-2021 04:23 AM

The house behind us caught fire due to a recharging battery left in the sun. Owners were out of the house for a year.


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