I don't understand your question. I think we should have a can for junk mail. Perhaps we need a can for dog poop too.

My question is what can I put in the 5 cans that are at my mailbox now? It seems as though, if I can put bottles and cans in it, I should also be able to put in the junk mail. I don't go to the mailbox to eat apples and meat, or to brew coffee. Isn't it pretty obvious that whoever decided to install 5 trash cans at the mailboxes intended for them to be used for junk mail?

I think you're asking permission to throw your recyclables away in the trash. I get your point because there are no public recycle bins anywhere in TV. It becomes a personal choice and boils down to how serious one is about recycling.


A good first step would be to install recycle bins beside the trash cans in the public spaces.


And for anyone who thinks that would be ugly, so are land fills, plus they smell!

That sounds reasonable. The "refuse" is different and going to different places. Removing waste cans altogether just seemed unrealistic.

It is a personal choice still, and no one way in itself is going to change global warming, it is just moving our arms and legs. REALISM is required. It is like the old saying, "every little bit helps, the old lady said as she peed in the sea". We all want to stop it, but unless the whole world participates it is a downhill slope. Lecturing others won't change them anymore than passing MORE laws about guns and drugs. We each need to do what we think is right. Lecturing people is like marching. It just ****es people off it they aren't on your wavelength.

I invested in some stainless steel and glass straws. I use the wider glass straws for smoothies so I can see better to clean them. The stainless steel for iced tea, selzer etc. I wash them right away. I use them everyday! I also carry a small container of hand sanitizer so I can use whenever I feel is necessary. At a restaurant, when someone shakes my hand, etc.

The whole problem in our world starts with straws.

How so? We don't use straws at home. Assuming the glass has been washed in a dishwasher in restaurants, they shouldn't be germy. If it eases the minds of those who worry, I would be willing to give up straws forever.

I couldn't disagree with you more. Realism isn't required, IMO. Action is. Now, by everyone, no matter how small.



If the younger people in our family, of which there are 12, at all represent the attitudes of their generation, something more will be done as soon as we're out of the way. Education is the key; pressure can be brought to bear. All of us old far!s will fade away, and they will be left with the power.


Until then, I'll do what I can.

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Please do.

If I felt that the world would be better if people all gave to a fund for research for rare disorders and I believed that with my whole heart, I could probably win the favor of young children for my cause and the cause IS a good one, BUT....Not everyone has exactly the same view of what they hold most important and how they see ANY situation. We may feel our way to deal with global warming is the right way. Global warming is a serious issue, but the answer may lie in science and converting Ozone and squelching volcanoes and stop making anything of plastic. I think we have all successfully defined the problem, but all the straws given up in this world is not going to stop global warming.

I love children and I can see that they are frightened to death right now of being shot at school, but the answers they have may not be the best answers. I think older, more experienced people need to see that they are protected, instead of changing laws that will NOT stop a mentally ill person from killing innocent kids. No one needs an assault rifle. I have never even touched a gun, we don't have them, but how I look at it and you look at it are at odds. I would like to have one if I ever need one.

I wonder what will happen to the young man who is so vocal about the shooting he survived in Broward county. Will he do better than those who are not activists? Time will tell. I wish we never had to be discussing this at all.

China and India are responsible for the vast majority of ocean trash .
The above aside ,I recently collected a number of relatively straight twigs . Then I went to the Villages Wood Shop and drilled holes thru the center . I washed them and now carry a couple with me wrapped in paper towel to use instead of any type of straw that might be offered .
Everyone should do this .

I can certainly agree with you that it is a sad state to have to be discussing this at all, GG.

I am very interested in these ideas. Especially the glass and stainless steel straws, since those are pre-made. Amazon has these.

It is an excellent idea to install recycle bins at each postal station.
Makes it easy for residents to do the right thing! :thumbup:

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I helped save the Earth today and was ecologically sensitve when I went to lunch at Beef O,Gradys.

I ate part of a cow. The cow had to be slaughtered for its meat so my hamburger has now contributed to less methane emitted from cow manure.

I refused a glass with my beer. No glass saves using electricity and water to clean it.

I feel this little part will help make the world cleaner and safer.

Since the topic of this thread is straws, I assume you drank the beer with a straw.

I let him try one of the wooden twigs which I hollowed out . I'm trying to promote these as the best and most natural alternative to manufactured glass and steel straws as they both consume a lot of energy in their manufacture .

My hollowed out wooden twigs are made from those which are found on the ground so no harm to nature . The paper towel I use to carry them around is of course both reusable and biodegradable .

FoxNews did a story on straws tonight, and yes, its dumb, they aren't going away and we aren't going to use metal ones.

Well, if FOX News said it, for sure it's the gospel truth.:icon_wink:

AND CNN, MSNBC, only tell you how THEY see it and how THEY feel about it. As Fox does too.

Hard news and old fashioned reporting of the facts in journalism is dead C.

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The best news network today is OAN, channel 347 on Direct TV

The best news is NO news.

I'll say.

My point is that the three major news networks are just political talking heads, giving their opinion, mostly on politics, occasionally breaking for hard news, usually national disasters which are soon interpreted by whether or not this would have happened because; (you got it)

I remember clearly when who, what, when,where and why was the criteria of good reporting and not the opinion of the owner of the company that broadcast. I understand about business competition, ratings and clickbait, but the stress engendered by broadcasting incendiary wording is changing the country in a bad way. Everyone is ready to BITE. Oh I long for JUST THE FACTS!

Good suggestion about the straws.

Which one?:pray:

Sunglow: Quoting dubious facts.

NBC News on Sunday backed off a dubious claim*that Americans use 1.6 straws a day on average, after critics noted*it was based on research from a nine-year-old boy whose methodology never has undergone any significant scrutiny.

This Kid Single-Handedly Ignited the Plastic Straw Ban Movement

Do you have a (different) link showing something about "research from a 9 year old kid"...much less anything about "methodology?"

Because the link you provided, certainly doesn't say anything about..."research or methodology." :oops:

My bamboo straws are on the way. They come with a brush cleaner and a cloth storage sac. I'd be happy to share them with all the people who are scared of the germs they might encounter on glasses without straws.

Anti straw movement based on unverified statistic of 500 million a day

NBC News backs off fishy statistic about plastic straws from research by 9-year-old boy | Fox News

You suck...



...in a very good and responsible way. :thumbup:




:D

More links;

How a 9-Year-Old Boy’s Statistic Shaped a Debate on Straws - The New York Times

Meet the boy who launched the movement to ban plastic straws eight years ago in Vermont | Daily Mail Online

Anti straw movement based on unverified statistic of 500 million a day

One Child's Outsized Influence On The Debate Over Plastic Straws : NPR

Here's the point: one straw is one too many.

"Through his research, Cress estimated Americans use about 500 million straws — including clear plastic straws, bendy straws, straws on juice boxes, cocktail straws and plastic drink stirrers — every day, a number that has been cited by many publications including the Wall Street Journal and the Washington Post in recent coverage about the wave of plastic straw bans by major corporations like Starbucks. Some have said his number is too high, while others say it’s too low. But Cress, now 17, says that’s not the point.

“'I think getting stuck on what the exact number is sort of misses the point of my project, which is to reduce our use and waste of straws,' he tells MONEY. 'I think we could improve on pretty much any number as long as we’re continuing to waste plastic. Any number is too high.'"

Meet the Kid Who Came Up With the 500 Million Straws Statistic | Money

The bottom line is we're heaping non degradable stuff into our landfills needlessly. It's time to change our habits, from straws to bottled water.

Wake up people. Straws, shopping bags, styrofoam and a thousand other things are destroying our planet. It is cause for concern. As responsible people we should do what we can to prevent future generations from dying because of our indifference. You may not believe it's true, but what if it is? An island of garbage is not part of nature. And just because some other countries aren't working towards a cleaner world is no excuse for us not to do what we can. We are Americans and have always led the world. Let's keep leading. Keep the Earth alive.

Outstanding post! :bigbow:

I cannot think of any person who would disagree with your post. It is a wonderful tribute to your kindness and your caring heart and to the good in all people.

But until someone, and I think it will happen, comes up with biodegradable plastic, nothing much will change. I think that the issue of not using straws is a tiny step that won't ever amount to a hill of beans. And this issue underscores the basic difference in all of the political rhetoric today. One side accuses the other of being selfish, shortsighted and hateful. One side is much more vocal. One side is often very unrealistic.

We cannot legislate morality. We cannot MAKE anyone do the right thing....except for parents raising children under five. And that ship has sailed. Most small children are now given over to people that the parents would not trust their car keys with.

Back to global warming; I know of no one that doesn't believe that the ozone layer is in danger, that carbon fuel is the culprit and that something needs to be done. There is climate change, undoubtedly. I don't believe in our country joining other countries who don't do anything but take our money is going to help one tiny bit. It is all talk and money drain for this country. I would rather see the money go to research that would find a way to make plastic biodegradable, or improve the ozone layer, or squelch volcanoes and stop forest fires. That CAN be done.

We each have to do what we think is best. Each person take care of himself and their family. Each country take care of themselves. We cannot control the world. Every little bit helps the old lady said as she peed in the sea.

Well said and appreciated.

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What about the currency you just paid the hot dog vendor and then ate the hot dog without washing your hands? Ever think about how many people have handled one single dollar bill? Or a quarter?

Outstanding post, and beautifully written. :mademyday: