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graciegirl 07-19-2018 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1563881)
The effort has been made to have one day of garbage pickup, to have recyclables also included from our driveways...so someone must care.

I mean really, how hard would it be to put a recyclable can as a test, instead of all regular garbage cans... at the postal stations? :oops:

I would even bet that the recyclable can would be (based on my personal observation that the regular cans are filled +-80% with the spam mail received)...by far the most used.

Once those who never want any improvements/changes made get over their irrational emotional issues, leave one regular garbage can...and add whatever additional recyclable cans that are needed.

Pretty simple actually. :ohdear:

I don't understand. Are you for trash cans or think we need more or less at the mail drops? People use trash cans for trash. Some trash or garbage (the words are geographic)can be recycled. Please what do you mean by "irrational emotional issues"?

ColdNoMore 07-19-2018 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Barefoot (Post 1563879)
I'm well aware of the plastic retainers, they are horrible!
I always cut through each one before I discard them.

I agree, it would be much better to recycle cardboard holders.

Same here.

In fact, my hat is off to the school system my children attended because they were given photos of all the fish & animals caught by these '6-pack traps' to take home...to show their parents.

At our house, it became a big deal to my kids to be the one to take out all of the cans/bottles...and cut up the plastic holders. :thumbup:

graciegirl 07-19-2018 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1563884)
Same here.

In fact, my hat is off to the school system my children attended because they were given photos of all the fish & animals caught by these '6-pack traps' to take home...to show their parents.

At our house, it became a big deal to my kids to be the one to take out all of the cans/bottles...and cut up the plastic holders. :thumbup:

So. Back to the trash cans coming or going at the mail drop? Do you want them to stay or go?

ColdNoMore 07-19-2018 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1563885)
So. Back to the trash cans coming or going at the mail drop? Do you want them to stay or go?

At each postal station;

- 1 (if even that) trash/garbage can.

- 2 or more (as needed)...cans for recyclable paper/spam mail.


As others have so intelligently pointed out, exactly what real 'trash/garbage' do people have to get rid of when checking their mail...unless maybe it's dog poop? :oops:


:wave:

CFrance 07-19-2018 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1563886)
At each postal station;

- 1 (if even that) trash/garbage can.

- 2 or more (as needed)...cans for recyclable paper/spam mail.


As others have so intelligently pointed out, exactly what real 'trash/garbage' do people have to get rid of when checking their mail...unless maybe it's dog poop? :oops:


:wave:

CNM, the main problem I see with that is that people will put trash in the recycling bins. Or worse--poop bags. (There's always someone, unfortunately.) Then TV will get discouraged and take them away.


Our country is relatively new to recycling. People are loathe to change something they've been doing most of their lives. It's a challenge. Hopefully the younger generation will take over...

graciegirl 07-19-2018 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1563886)
At each postal station;

- 1 (if even that) trash/garbage can.

- 2 or more (as needed)...cans for recyclable paper/spam mail.


As others have so intelligently pointed out, exactly what real 'trash/garbage' do people have to get rid of when checking their mail...unless maybe it's dog poop? :oops:


:wave:

I don't have a dog. I put chewing gum in the trash/garbage (the word we use is geographic) Our Helene picks up the mail and brings every bit of it home so none of this personally affects me or our household. It just seems silly to remove a trash/garbage can from a place where people would put their trash/garbage. P.S. I think of garbage as apple peels and meat bones and coffee grounds. I think of trash as paper and plastic and cans. Perhaps we need a can for dog poop and a can for trash?

ColdNoMore 07-19-2018 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 1563882)
It makes a lot of difference when people are discarding recyclables into trash cans.


Most postal stations are by a pool. There is a trash can by the pool, not far from the postal station, but far enough that people are not going to walk over to it to throw their junk mail, which should be recycled, into the trash can. Use the trash cans for trash; take your junk mail home and recycle it.


It's not political. It's environmental. Too many people think the environmental awareness thing is political. I want this planet to still be around for my grandchild's children.

ABSOLUTELY! :BigApplause:


All too many think that since they're only one person and so many others don't think about recycling or the environment...why should they even bother?


The answer to that of course, is history is replete with a plethora of success stories of changing the status quo for the better, because just a few people at the beginning cared...and wanted a better future for their children/grandchildren. :thumbup:


We no longer read/see rivers catching fire because of the pollutants and unregulated dumping, and I for one...am darned glad about that.


And yet, there are still those of course who believe companies/communities/entities will police themselves and not put profits/money first...so those regulations aren't really needed.


Simply amazing. :ohdear:

ColdNoMore 07-19-2018 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 1563889)
CNM, the main problem I see with that is that people will put trash in the recycling bins. Or worse--poop bags. (There's always someone, unfortunately.) Then TV will get discouraged and take them away.


Our country is relatively new to recycling. People are loathe to change something they've been doing most of their lives. It's a challenge. Hopefully the younger generation will take over...

I understand and even share...your concern.

I guess I'm also hoping though, maybe naively, that even some old dogs...can learn new habits. :shrug:

I believe that the 'Environmental Movement' (that started when I was in school and has been so beneficial), has made a huge positive impact on most people, or has at the very least raised awareness...and has maybe even instilled a sense of guilt in the folks who eschew its principles.

And I too hope that my children's generation and their kids... will continue to make an even greater impact. :thumbup:







Speaking of 'eschew,' if it's gum...just keep it in your mouth until you get home. :D

graciegirl 07-19-2018 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 1563882)
It makes a lot of difference when people are discarding recyclables into trash cans.


Most postal stations are by a pool. There is a trash can by the pool, not far from the postal station, but far enough that people are not going to walk over to it to throw their junk mail, which should be recycled, into the trash can. Use the trash cans for trash; take your junk mail home and recycle it.


It's not political. It's environmental. Too many people think the environmental awarerness thing is political. I want this planet to still be around for my grandchild's children.

Who doesn't want that? It is how we interpret how to accomplish that that becomes debate.

How much do we repair before we discard? ( Many people throw out appliances to make a home GREEN...with new appliances.) How much do we personally recycle, i.e. reuse?? How much are we willing to sacrifice in order to not waste? How much do we defile this world with smoking and bad habits. How many waste money? Just what are habits that will protect the earth and what is rhetoric? Each like to point the finger at the other. We cannot save the earth with only part of the earth participating. There is one woman in The Villages who earns my complete respect for her interpretation of being careful with this world we live in,and her name is Bernice and she is 105 years old. She called for me to get a Butterfly bush that they were going to discard when they added a pool. She grows a garden and she cans and she has all the right lights and she is careful with her money and her clothes. We need to be more like Bernice, who may very well live to see her efforts rewarded.

CFrance 07-19-2018 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1563925)
Who doesn't want that? It is how we interpret how to accomplish that that becomes debate.

How much do we repair before we discard? ( Many people throw out appliances to make a home GREEN...with new appliances.) How much do we personally recycle, i.e. reuse?? How much are we willing to sacrifice in order to not waste? How much do we defile this world with smoking and bad habits. How many waste money? Just what are habits that will protect the earth and what is rhetoric? Each like to point the finger at the other. We cannot save the earth with only part of the earth participating. There is one woman in The Villages who earns my complete respect for her interpretation of being careful with this world we live in,and her name is Bernice and she is 105 years old. She called for me to get a Butterfly bush that they were going to discard when they added a pool. She grows a garden and she cans and she has all the right lights and she is careful with her money and her clothes. We need to be more like Bernice, who may very well live to see her efforts rewarded.

The biggest disagreement I have with what you just said is that people can't change the earth because not everybody is participating. To a lesser extent I disagree with your statement that people are throwing out appliances to get green ones. I don't know anyone who has done that--changing to a greener one when they need a new one, or donating a working one to a good cause when buying a new one, yes, but throwing them out just to get a more efficient one? Are there statistics on that?


Instead of asking all those questions, just start doing something. Do the thing that's in front of you, however small.


My friend says nobody on her street recycles anything. That's just wrong. But it's not going to make me give up and not recycle.


If we hadn't had people campaigning against smoking, nobody would know it's bad for your health. It was the kids who started campaigning to their parents, after what they learned in school.


Same with recycling and other environmental issues. It has to start somewhere. Frustration doesn't let you off the hook. Stop asking and start doing. (That's my wish for everyone).

graciegirl 07-19-2018 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 1563929)
The biggest disagreement I have with what you just said is that people can't change the earth because not everybody is participating. To a lesser extent I disagree with your statement that people are throwing out appliances to get green ones. I don't know anyone who has done that--changing to a greener one when they need a new one, or donating a working one to a good cause when buying a new one, yes, but throwing them out just to get a more efficient one? Are there statistics on that?


Instead of asking all those questions, just start doing something. Do the thing that's in front of you, however small.


My friend says nobody on her street recycles anything. That's just wrong. But it's not going to make me give up and not recycle.


If we hadn't had people campaigning against smoking, nobody would know it's bad for your health. It was the kids who started campaigning to their parents, after what they learned in school.


Same with recycling and other environmental issues. It has to start somewhere. Frustration doesn't let you off the hook. Stop asking and start doing. (That's my wish for everyone).

You are preaching to the choir and so am I. NO kids stopped us from smoking. Wisdom from the medical community did.

ColdNoMore 07-19-2018 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 1563929)
Snip>The biggest disagreement I have with what you just said is that people can't change the earth because not everybody is participating.<Snip

Yep! :thumbup:




It even sounds familiar. :D
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Originally Posted by ColdNoMore
All too many think that since they're only one person and so many others don't think about recycling or the environment...why should they even bother?


Chi33 07-19-2018 05:11 PM

The isn't a big deal. We can't stop straws. This of all the plastic we use

Chi-Town 07-19-2018 05:20 PM

One trash can and one recycling can . No big deal. Happens all the time everywhere.

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retiredguy123 07-19-2018 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1563892)
I don't have a dog. I put chewing gum in the trash/garbage (the word we use is geographic) Our Helene picks up the mail and brings every bit of it home so none of this personally affects me or our household. It just seems silly to remove a trash/garbage can from a place where people would put their trash/garbage. P.S. I think of garbage as apple peels and meat bones and coffee grounds. I think of trash as paper and plastic and cans. Perhaps we need a can for dog poop and a can for trash?

I am really confused. If you cannot put junk mail in the postal trash can, then why can you put in paper, plastic, and cans? These are all things that you are supposed to recycle. The only logical thing to dispose of at the mail box is junk mail, especially when they provide 5 trash cans there, and pay someone to empty them on a regular basis. Also, almost everything that I dispose of in my house is on the recycle list, but they only pick it up once per week.


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