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CFrance 11-26-2020 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by bob47 (Post 1865859)
We're probably going to streaming television. Would appreciate recent experience from folks who are doing this already.

Between Hulu + Live TV and YouTube TV, is one clearly better than the other?

What is the minimum internet upload stream for successful streaming?

Thanks.
Who is your internet provider? Ours is Century Link. We started out with Hulu but got a lot of buffering to a very annoying level. Then my husband went to a few Cut the Cord group meetings a year or so ago, and they suggested YouTubeTV. One thing they liked about it is there is a guide that's is easy to get to. Shows you every channel and what's playing or going to play.


We have had very little buffering with You Tube. I'm happy with it, but the price has jumped to near the amount we were paying DirecTV.

mpalazzola 11-26-2020 10:54 AM
What about an antenna? One time purchase of $100, free TV for life. If you haven't watched TV over the air in 20 years. you need to see what your missing.

lennythenet 11-26-2020 11:03 AM
We like YouTubeTV. It has all the channels we would want. TCM, Golf Channel, B10 Network plus many others, along with unlimited DVR. What we also like about it is that we can also use it when we go north. You only have to go into app and change zip code and it will change your local channels. The only problem we had was using Xfinity/Comcast we were having a lot of buffering. Added a mesh WiFi extender and our problem was solved. The buffering wasn’t just for YouTubeTV, I think you might have same buffering problem using any of the apps. Something to consider when you decide to stream.

Curtisbwp 11-26-2020 11:10 AM
I have Netflix, hulu, and amazon prime and also havr a ruku tv. I do have cable but rarely watch it. I should cancel cable. I also am building a second home in Maine lake region and will NOT have cable.

fmeans 11-26-2020 11:11 AM
I bought a Freestream box from local Villager, Jerry Dillen, and am very, VERY happy with it. I get live television, local channels, sports and movies galore. Essentially I can search up ANYthing that has ever been broadcast. All that is required is an internet connection (which you have to have anyway, right, for email, surfing and such). So for the one time price of $350.00...you're done. Search Jerry up on Facebook or email him at mrdills96@gmail.com. He is nice as can be and will come install the device and tutor you on using it.

matandch 11-26-2020 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by jedalton (Post 1866220)
OTA antenna's won't work for most parts of TV due to the distance to the closest tower, which is in Orlando.
Look for smart phone apps like Antenna Point and NoCable to find out what’s available OTA where you live.

biker1 11-26-2020 11:48 AM
Not exactly. There are parts of The Villages where it works better than others but I would not use the word “most”. It also depends on your choice of antenna. I have a DB4E mounted in the attic and pull in over 50 channels from Orlando including NBC. I live between 466A and 44.

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Originally Posted by jedalton (Post 1866220)
OTA antenna's won't work for most parts of TV due to the distance to the closest tower, which is in Orlando.

Mrprez 11-26-2020 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by biker1 (Post 1866277)
Not exactly. There are parts of The Villages where it works better than others but I would not use the word “most”. It also depends on your choice of antenna. I have a DB4E mounted in the attic and pull in over 50 channels from Orlando including NBC. I live between 466A and 44.
Are you using any boosters? I live south of 44 and my garage attic faces south.

biker1 11-26-2020 12:24 PM
Yes, I have an amplifier with the DB4E. The DB4E is mounted in the attic at the peak. My garage faces to the southwest but I don’t see that as necessarily an issue since the roof will attenuate the signal regardless of our orientation. Since you are south of 44, I believe you have the radiant barrier on the underside of your roof sheathing. That may be an issue ??


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Originally Posted by Mrprez (Post 1866299)
Are you using any boosters? I live south of 44 and my garage attic faces south.

eweissenbach 11-26-2020 12:29 PM
Don’t know if you are interested, but as a seasonal resident I have had YouTube TV for three years and love it. I can get my local (KC) channels while I’m in TV so can watch Chiefs and Royals games and local news shows if I want. Last year it allowed me to watch the Super Bowl parade in KC. Also, all I have to do is connect in either place, no calling and pending or anything. The YouTube channels are perfect for us.

Mrprez 11-26-2020 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by biker1 (Post 1866302)
Yes, I have an amplifier with the DB4E. The DB4E is mounted in the attic at the peak. My garage faces to the southwest but I don’t see that as necessarily an issue since the roof will attenuate the signal regardless of our orientation. Since you are south of 44, I believe you have the radiant barrier on the underside of your roof sheathing. That may be an issue ??
No radiant barrier in the garage area.

Shutterbug 11-26-2020 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by bob47 (Post 1865859)
We're probably going to streaming television. Would appreciate recent experience from folks who are doing this already.

Between Hulu + Live TV and YouTube TV, is one clearly better than the other?

What is the minimum internet upload stream for successful streaming?

Thanks.
Go for a streaming box. One time purchase price with no monthly fee. You get all of what you want. Also, an outside digital antenna for about 50 local channels, also free after purchase of antenna.

The new Dynalink Android TV Box is currently being sold by Walmart, and for the price, it is crazy good.

biker1 11-26-2020 12:54 PM
Wow, they decided to not use the roof sheathing with the radiant barrier over the garage area ? I guess it saved them a few dollars.


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Originally Posted by Mrprez (Post 1866307)
No radiant barrier in the garage area.

John_W 11-26-2020 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Shutterbug (Post 1866311)
The new Dynalink Android TV Box is currently being sold by Walmart, and for the price, it is crazy good.
What's the difference between this Android box and Amazon Firestick and Roku stick? They're enabling your smart TV to play more or all the apps out there. For live TV you'll need to subscribe to youtube.tv or hula live or some other streaming service unless you're satisfied with just the local channels from your OTA antenna. I have a Roku stick but I only keep it as a backup in case my Directv were to go out. Otherwise, Roku has quite a lot of free programming, but nothing great without paying extra. I also have an antenna in the attic and have it connected to the guest BR, I pick up about 50 channels but no channel 2 unless I were to add a second antenna If I could only watch what was on local TV, I would probably sell my TV. My main go-to for watching live TV is Directv with 300 channels, been with them since 2008.

matandch 11-26-2020 02:13 PM
BTW. I use a roof mounted antenna and pickup 63 OTA channels. Also use Ruku for streaming on my dumb TVs. Plus I connect it all to the Sling AirTV 2 which integrates the OTA channels with my Sling channels into one guide for a near cable like environment.

mikemalloy 11-26-2020 02:20 PM
We got tired of cable bills since we have 4 TVs and the monthly equipment charges were annoying. We used You Tube streaming but they raised the price so we're currently using Hulu+live. Hulu just announced that they were raising their prices. Slowly the streaming services are turning into cable at least with their cost. We considered Spectrum streaming but they don't have the golf channel. We'll probably dump the new charge Hulu if we find a cheaper replacement.

Mrprez 11-26-2020 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by mikemalloy (Post 1866360)
We got tired of cable bills since we have 4 TVs and the monthly equipment charges were annoying. We used You Tube streaming but they raised the price so we're currently using Hulu+live. Hulu just announced that they were raising their prices. Slowly the streaming services are turning into cable at least with their cost. We considered Spectrum streaming but they don't have the golf channel. We'll probably dump the new charge Hulu if we find a cheaper replacement.
Good luck in your search. The rates keep going up due to increases that Hulu and the like have to pay for the feeds. I found that I wasn’t watching as much live tv anymore so now only use Hulu no ads, Amazon Prime, CBS All Access and recently added the Disney + bundle to my Hulu account. That gives me Hulu, Disney, and ESPN for $19 a month.

Miatea416 11-26-2020 07:36 PM
We went to you tube tv and we are very happy ... we have 80 from century link

Dan2013 11-26-2020 07:55 PM
I got a rotating over the air TV Antenna at market of Marion.
$300 for the antenna and to have it installed. I’m loving it so far.
I get 76 channels. No monthly fees or expenses.

NAB20 11-26-2020 09:00 PM
We looked at supposetv which was recommended on this forum and ended up with Xfinity, which provides local channels, then added Sling TV Blue with the Blue Sports and News option so we can get the Golf Channel. If it was not for the Golf Channel we may have gone another way. We are also here for only the winter six months, so we wanted to be able to suspend the services without penalty or a two year contract. Good luck.

John_W 11-26-2020 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by fmeans (Post 1866250)
I bought a Freestream box from local Villager, Jerry Dillen, and am very, VERY happy with it. I get live television, local channels, sports and movies galore. Essentially I can search up ANYthing that has ever been broadcast. All that is required is an internet connection (which you have to have anyway, right, for email, surfing and such). So for the one time price of $350.00...you're done. Search Jerry up on Facebook or email him at mrdills96@gmail.com. He is nice as can be and will come install the device and tutor you on using it.
That's called a jail break Firestick, you should get 6,000 channels, Already noted earlier on post #38 by heyitsrick, that's illegal, you probably won't ever get caught but you're getting loads of programming without paying a fee. BTW, the jailbreak firestick they sell at Market of Marion by 3 vendors for $140, or you buy a firestick from from Amazon and go on youtube and learn how to do it yourself.

Here's what heyitsrick posted earlier, he says it a lot better than I can.

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Originally Posted by heyitsrick
I'm not the morality police - trust me.

But I think you need to be upfront about what you're recommending here. Sportziptv is known as an "iptv" service that carries "streams" of what would ordinarily be premium-based ($$$) content. In other words, for a small monthly fee, the home viewer would have "free" access to tons of content regular users would have to pay the normal subscription fee for. If a content provider (movie studio or company that owns the distribution rights to premium content like movies/tv shows/sports) finds people have been accessing it in this way, those people could be on the hook for a lot money in damages.

Now, will users of such a service get caught? Probably not, if they take the proper precautions. Even the sportziptv web page warns people should get a "VPN" (virtual private network) that masks/hides one's real internet address. No one needs to do that for legal services.

You're also posting your own affiliate link here - the "aff=1044" part of the URL you're linking to, which means you get some kind of cash back or free access or whatever their affiliate relationship is. You should be making that obvious, too.

A lot of people are newbies where it comes to streaming online services. Throw out a "you can get everything you want for $9.95 / month" to new people looking to cut costs and they think they've found TV/Movie/Sports nirvana. What they've found is "theft of service", and common sense would tell anyone that if these services like YouTube TV or Hulu or Disney+, etc., are charging up to or over $60 / month what you're promoting for $9.95, something's not kosher.


If people want a "service" like iptv, go for it. But know in advance exactly what it is you're going for, because there is some potential legal/financial jeopardy in doing so. What I'm concerned about is uninformed people who just think this is some kind of crazy "secret" legit deal that just happens to get them the viewing options they want much, much cheaper than their neighbors. "If it's too good to be true..." applies.

mydavid 11-27-2020 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted by jedalton (Post 1865947)
you're better off with firestick 4-K and streaming service. service cost $9.95/mth and gives you 5,000 channels. all local, all sports and much more. Contact me and I can set you up. jedalton@gmail.com. The Villages Firestick guy. min of 35 Mbs for streaming.

Dalton Consulting Services
you may want to try this streaming service
Google
due to overwhelming response here is what I have decided to do.
I recommend you purchase your own router instead of renting from cable company for $12-15/mth.. The netgear c7000 v2 works very well. If you would like a demo I can come out and show you the demo for $70 (takes about 1 hour) and if you decide to go with it I will deduct it from your bill. I am booked until next week, Available next week on Wed, Thurs, Fri and Sat. Let me know what works for you. I live in Duval.
Spectrum
100 Mbps Internet
(wireless speeds may vary)
FREE internet modem
No data caps
$49.99/mth
I have (3) TV's do you need a firestick for each?

jedalton 11-27-2020 07:19 AM
dead wrong
 
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Originally Posted by Heyitsrick (Post 1866206)
I'm not the morality police - trust me.

But I think you need to be upfront about what you're recommending here. Sportziptv is known as an "iptv" service that carries "streams" of what would ordinarily be premium-based ($$$) content. In other words, for a small monthly fee, the home viewer would have "free" access to tons of content regular users would have to pay the normal subscription fee for. If a content provider (movie studio or company that owns the distribution rights to premium content like movies/tv shows/sports) finds people have been accessing it in this way, those people could be on the hook for a lot money in damages.

Now, will users of such a service get caught? Probably not, if they take the proper precautions. Even the sportziptv web page warns people should get a "VPN" (virtual private network) that masks/hides one's real internet address. No one needs to do that for legal services.

You're also posting your own affiliate link here - the "aff=1044" part of the URL you're linking to, which means you get some kind of cash back or free access or whatever their affiliate relationship is. You should be making that obvious, too.

A lot of people are newbies where it comes to streaming online services. Throw out a "you can get everything you want for $9.95 / month" to new people looking to cut costs and they think they've found TV/Movie/Sports nirvana. What they've found is "theft of service", and common sense would tell anyone that if these services like YouTube TV or Hulu or Disney+, etc., are charging up to or over $60 / month what you're promoting for $9.95, something's not kosher.


If people want a "service" like iptv, go for it. But know in advance exactly what it is you're going for, because there is some potential legal/financial jeopardy in doing so. What I'm concerned about is uninformed people who just think this is some kind of crazy "secret" legit deal that just happens to get them the viewing options they want much, much cheaper than their neighbors. "If it's too good to be true..." applies.
the service is not for downloading, just watching. As long as you don't download anything it's legal.
So for example, viewing content from an IPTV service is technically not disobeying the DMCA. However, downloading such content and then sending the files to others or posting it online would, in fact, be in violation of the DMCA.

jedalton 11-27-2020 07:21 AM
yes, you need a firestick for each tv
 
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Originally Posted by mydavid (Post 1866496)
I have (3) TV's do you need a firestick for each?
yes, you need a firestick for each television

retiredguy123 11-27-2020 07:21 AM
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Originally Posted by mydavid (Post 1866496)
I have (3) TV's do you need a firestick for each?
Yes. But, I would recommend the Roku stick instead of a Fire stick. I think it is the best of the streaming devices. But, in any case, you will need a separate stick for each television.

jedalton 11-27-2020 07:29 AM
very legal
 
[QUOTE=John_W;1866456]That's called a jail break Firestock, you should get 6,000 channels, Already noted earlier on post #38 by heyitsrick, that's illegal, you probably won't ever get caught but you're getting loads of programming without paying a fee. BTW, the jailbreak firestick they sell at Market of Marion by 3 vendors for $140, or you buy a firestick from from Amazon and go on youtube and learn how to do it yourself.


the service is not for downloading, just watching. As long as you don't download anything it's legal. So for example, viewing content from an IPTV service is technically not disobeying the DMCA. However, downloading such content and then sending the files to others or posting it online would, in fact, be in violation of the DMCA.

Jerseyborn 11-27-2020 08:20 AM
We moved in 3 weeks ago and opted for the Disney + bundle (Disney plus, hulu and ESPN+.) We bought our own router modem (Netgear) and so far it's working great (as long as you don't mind being a day late on everything). We used to DVR all our shows so it's the same for us. The only exception-no Jeopardy.

Mrprez 11-27-2020 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Jerseyborn (Post 1866526)
We moved in 3 weeks ago and opted for the Disney + bundle (Disney plus, hulu and ESPN+.) We bought our own router modem (Netgear) and so far it's working great (as long as you don't mind being a day late on everything). We used to DVR all our shows so it's the same for us. The only exception-no Jeopardy.
That’s pretty much what we have too. That and CBS all access.

Kanputt7743 11-27-2020 08:53 AM
Youtube TV
 
We are using Youtube TV and are very satisfied with it. We get 83 channels for $72 per month, including tax, including all of the local network channels, national news channels and The golf channel which gives us pretty much all we want.

I believe it is download speed rather than upload speed which impacts streaming quality. We use Centurylink for internet service and get 80 megabytes per second for $45 per month for life which is more than enough to provide high quality reliable streaming. I believe the minimum requirement is about 25 MBPS.

We also have a supplemental Netgear Orbi 20 wifi router system (Amazon) which provides a strong signal to all of our four tv sets.

Quote:
Originally Posted by bob47 (Post 1865859)
We're probably going to streaming television. Would appreciate recent experience from folks who are doing this already.

Between Hulu + Live TV and YouTube TV, is one clearly better than the other?

What is the minimum internet upload stream for successful streaming?

Thanks.

Acorrie1 11-27-2020 09:01 AM
We only have smart TV's and Spectrum internet which is great for everything. No TV service needed, there are plenty of free channels.

Uncle Pepe 11-27-2020 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by bob47 (Post 1865859)
We're probably going to streaming television. Would appreciate recent experience from folks who are doing this already.

Between Hulu + Live TV and YouTube TV, is one clearly better than the other?

What is the minimum internet upload stream for successful streaming?

Thanks.
Hi. I am not an expert but I stream with no monthly cost. I have both g-box and Firestick. Once you have whichever hardware you want download the Filelinked apk. When you have that you search for the filelinked codes and use them to find other aps such as CinemaHD BeeTV and Mobdro to play movies and TV shows to your hearts content for free.

airstreamingypsy 11-27-2020 10:18 AM
It's cheaper to bundle Spectrum Internet and TV.

wiltma 11-27-2020 10:20 AM
Hulu
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by bob47 (Post 1865859)
We're probably going to streaming television. Would appreciate recent experience from folks who are doing this already.

Between Hulu + Live TV and YouTube TV, is one clearly better than the other?

What is the minimum internet upload stream for successful streaming?

Thanks.
Grab Hulu today. Black Friday deal $1.99 month for a year

Pommom91 11-27-2020 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Mikeodonnell73 (Post 1865982)
We went over to streaming with YouTube TV about 5 months ago and wouldn’t go back. I cut my monthly bill down by $150 and I can still DVR all the shows I had before and all the stations I watched.
How do you use the DVR if you no longer have the cable service? Don’t they want that equipment back if you cancel cable service and only keep Internet?

retiredguy123 11-27-2020 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Pommom91 (Post 1866607)
How do you use the DVR if you no longer have the cable service? Don’t they want that equipment back if you cancel cable service and only keep Internet?
Many streaming services have a cloud based DVR service that requires no equipment. Actually, I think most of the cable TV services now use a cloud based system also.

kathyspear 11-27-2020 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by jedalton (Post 1866500)
As long as you don't download anything it's legal.
Oh, please ...

kathy


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