[capecoralbill]

Originally Posted by N44125

We were playing Sarasota the other day and noticed that the street name signs by the new Walmart have been installed. The names are all in upper case (capital) letters. I was of the opinion that federal guidelines (law) mandated upper and lower case lettering.

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter

South of Tampa?
Oh, you mean the golf course.............
Starter Building is located on the West Side of the Sarasota Practice Center. Address: 2991 Morse Blvd. Phone: 674-2706

Huh? A NEW Walmart where?

[ColdNoMore]

Originally Posted by Polar Bear

Nope. From the MUTCD...

"Q: Can lettering on Street Name signs still be displayed in all upper-case letters?
A: No, lettering for place names and destinations on all guide signs, including Street Name signs, shall be in mixed-case lettering with the first letter in upper-case followed by lower-case letters."

Link?

The MUTCD/FWHA link I provided in Post #10...seems to contradict that.

[Mallory]

Don't really car the size of the letters but would like to know the names chosen for the streets.

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter

Pot stirring on a windy, rainy day.

Originally Posted by CWGUY

But have to add - I think they would look better in cursive.

Sorry, I was directing the pot stirring to my friend Gracie.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter

Sorry, I was directing the pot stirring to my friend Gracie.

THANKS OLD friend!

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by capecoralbill

Huh? A NEW Walmart where?

Plans for Walmart Neighborhood Market

[ColdNoMore]

Originally Posted by ColdNoMore

Link?

The MUTCD/FWHA link I provided in Post #10...seems to contradict that.

I found your link, but this letter I believe is what allows all capital letters on street name signs.

Interpretation Letter 2-603(I) - FHWA MUTCD

The lettering of Street Name signs is addressed in MUTCD Section 2D.38 and it states that on ground-mounted street name signs that are not on multi-lane streets, the letters should be at least 6 inches high where all capital letters are used, or you can use 6 inches upper-case letters with 4.5 inches lower-case letters.

For local roads with speed limits 25 mph or less, there is an option provided that allows the use of 4-inch letter height and words such as Street, Avenue, Road, or NW may be 3-inch letter height. The letter size of ground-mounted street name signs discussed above was originally added to the MUTCD in January 1997.

A 15-year compliance period was provided. This means the compliance date for increasing the letter size of all ground-mounted street name signs on roads that are not on multi-lane streets is January 2012. On multi-lane streets with speed limits greater than 40 mph, the lettering on ground mounted street name signs should be at least 8 inches in all capital letters, or 8 inches upper-case with 6 inches lower-case letters. This change to the MUTCD was adopted in November 2003 with a 15-year compliance period. This means the compliance date for increasing the letter size of all ground-mounted signs on multi-lane streets with speed limits greater than 40 mph is November 2018.

In other words, the way I read it is that either all capitals or just capitalizing the first letter...are both acceptable.

Not that it's really that big of a deal though, since I doubt the developer/county have been in violation of the regulations for all these years...by using all capitals.

[JoMar]

Originally Posted by capecoralbill

Huh? A NEW Walmart where?

You don't live here do you?

[Bob McKeever]

I don't think that Moyer Loop qualifies as a Highway.

[capecoralbill]

Originally Posted by JoMar

You don't live here do you?

Thank you Bogie Shooter for taking the time to update me, I was clueless. Hard to believe the Villages will have three Walmarts and a Sam's but no Whole Foods, or Costco.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by capecoralbill

Thank you Bogie Shooter for taking the time to update me, I was clueless. Hard to believe the Villages will have three Walmarts and a Sam's but no Whole Foods, or Costco.

Allow me to tell you why. It is not because The Villages Commercial Properties hasn't wooed them. It is because "at this time they are happy with their distribution", i.e. It costs THEM a lot to build a store and they do careful research on the demographics, population density and competition.

There is NO conspiracy.

You wouldn't be a Walmart snob would you? They have a lot of good stuff at very reasonable prices.

[capecoralbill]

No, I am not a wallymart snob, quite the opposite, i'm in there almost every day. Wallysnobs are cutting off their nose to spite their face. I've known some of them, they are usually closet Wally shopper anyway.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by capecoralbill

No, I am not a wallymart snob, quite the opposite, i'm in there almost every day. Wallysnobs are cutting off their nose to spite their face. I've known some of them, they are usually closet Wally shopper anyway.

I owe you an apology. Very glad you like Walmart. I am glad we have Publix too. AND Winn-Dixie has an AWESOME chocolate layer cake. We are doin' o.k. here I think.

[MrGolf]

How about having them in upper case, lite up and audio controlled so that you roll down your window, beep your horn within 20 feet of the sign and tells you where you are in 5 different languages? Problem solved

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by MrGolf

How about having them in upper case, lite up and audio controlled so that you roll down your window, beep your horn within 20 feet of the sign and tells you where you are in 5 different languages? Problem solved

Excellent. But we won't have to pay for it will we?