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If the guy hadn't turned his SUV around and yelled at golf carts to get out of HIS way according to the OP, I'd have a lot more sympathy. I drive a golf cart about 95% of the time. More than once I've had to sheepishly back up when I started to go up a path rather than the road (didn't get far enough to even touch the center pole, but ...).

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Originally Posted by ijusluvit (Post 701864)

I wish the author of this thread had not used such a harsh descriptor to describe this behavior. And it looks more a more like 'Stupid!' has become the standard TV descriptor for any less than perfect action by anyone.

Let's take a breath folks, and realize that for us, this is the 'new normal'. We recently came from places where a greater percentage of the population is more coordinated, capable and less impaired. Oh sure, there is a lot of 'stupid' outside the bubble, but less than here. Did you know that fully 40% of the TV population has a stage one or higher level of some cancer? Some of them drive on treatment and fatigue days, most with no doctors advising against it. Then there are literally thousands more afflicted with other ailments and natural impairments afflicting us as we age. Together I'm suggesting these wonderful people make up the MAJORITY of the TV population, and I am not even counting those who voluntarily impair themselves occasionally or regularly.

Are you willing to give up driving your car and then your cart when you have some problems or close calls you realize you shouldn't have had, or probably wouldn't have had 10 years ago? Probably not, if you are like most people. We don't want to think about that and it's NORMAL that this is one of the last decisions we are willing to make.

So lets concentrate a little more on the real circumstances in which we now live. We love the beauty, enthusiasm and activity here, but the flip-side is that we are all aging and becoming more impaired at a rate we've never experienced before. It's not pretty, but if we can learn to accept it we will be a lot better off. I believe we can even be happy as we feel ourselves aging.

Let's understand this about ourselves and others and extend this understanding to others by expressing more tolerance.

Practicing tolerance can even help us. It lessens the confusion, frustration and embarrassment when we make our own mistakes.

Really??? more tolerance. Please read this.

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Originally Posted by Warren Kiefer (Post 701897)

40% of we Villagers have cancer is quite a fact, where did you get that number?? Also I agree with the orginal oposting, stupid is the perfect description.

Yes. When someone does something that endangers life of another, that is stupid. If you sugar coat it, you may as well say it is OK.

I don't think stupidity has anything to do with such actions. I would use the term impaired, for whatever reason. Many bright people develop 'issues' as they age. I don't excuse the result at all, but believe categorizing it as stupid diminishes the seriousness of the problem.

i am confused about the cancer thing...40% i hope not..still car on cart path car will always win

I don't think the OP meant any harm, but was using a catchy title.

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Originally Posted by asianthree (Post 701966)

i am confused about the cancer thing...40% i hope not..still car on cart path car will always win

My oncologist operates out of the Moffat Center here in TV. She is a nationally known researcher as well. She said that the statistics show that nationally, stage one or greater cancer affects about 15% of the total population. In Florida it is 20%, and here among our 100.000 population, the latest figures are 40%. This does not even include folks with any skin cancers except melanoma.

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Originally Posted by ijusluvit (Post 701864)

Did you know that fully 40% of the TV population has a stage one or higher level of some cancer?
mistakes.

I did not know that 40% of the TV population has stage one or higher cancer. Where did this statistic come from? What is your source for this statistic? It is interesting to me that it came out to an even number of 40% and not 33.6% or 41.2% that scientific analyses often come out to. The fact that the Villages is populated by older folks makes that a possible statistic, but I would be interested in finding out where you got that number from.

Information from one oncologist at the Moffitt Cancer Center is not very scientific. It may be accurate but we have no idea of knowing until we see the actual data.

The 2012 Annual Support on Cancer For Leesburg and The Villages Regional Hospitals states one in two males and one in three females will be stricken with cancer in one form or another, which would be about 40%

http://www.cfhalliance.org/PDF/AnnualCancerReport.pdf

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Originally Posted by DougB (Post 701987)

Interesting analysis, but not necessarily statistically accurate.(Good try though!) Unfortunately many people who get cancer die from their disease. Thankfully many others do survive. So determining who is living as a cancer survivor after having a stage one or greater cancer may be a much smaller number than the number of people who have gotten cancer over their lifetime. Look to the NCI or other national data bases for accurate estimates of cancer incidence in the US population. They break it down by types of cancers as well as separate them by age and sex. You can also look up statistics for the number of cancer survivors in the USA and this will give you a good estimate of the percentage of people in the country who are alive today and have survived cancer. The number may be lower than you think.

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Originally Posted by Bizdoc (Post 701642)

After he managed to turn around, he went tearing back toward Sanibel gate yelling at carts to get out of his way.

To get back on topic, and away from how many of us are impaired or have cancer etc............ I think his reaction may have been pure panic and sheer embarrassment.

Several years ago, four of us left Belvedere Rec with my husband driving our car, we were all laughing over something and he instinctively followed the golf carts headed into the golf cart path, until the other guy in the car brought it to his attention. Stupid - no; inattentive - yes.

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Originally Posted by redwitch (Post 701905)

I have to agree with this!

It's one thing to make a mistake, but his actions after were obnoxious.

I do NOT believe the 40% cancer rate.

If you think the golf cart lanes on the Morse bridge are dangerous when two carts pass each other, try driving a Chevy Trailblazer over the bridge in these lanes like I did the first month we lived here.

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Originally Posted by DougB (Post 702143)

LOL. You know your bad
Doug....