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Old 03-21-2018, 09:06 AM
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I like Paddock square for listening to music and dancing. I really like the bleachers, though we don’t plan on sitting in the high season.

There are groups that cater to the “south of 60” folks. I like American Martian, the Hooligans, Chuck Barrios, And Second Slice. I’m sure there are others.

However, I think they should have the floor seating right in front of the stage for a few rows with the dancing behind it. Right now, for folks to see or take pictures they tend to stand right in front of the stage, and there is a lot of jostling going on for people to get a better view, usually causing people to stomp on the plants in front of the stage. Seating would allow those folks that get to the square early the opportunity to see the band, and save the plants. As one who loves to dance, I’m happy to be a bit farther back, and can see over the folks in the seats.
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If anyone would pay attention to the future development plans you would see the Morses are putting a lot of eggs into the Brownwood basket. The Villages Adminstrative offices, a large medical center, a hotel & conference center, etc. The Brownwood area will be the administrative & commercial center hub of The Villages.
And what were the future plans when Brownwood opened in the fall of 2012? Of course, that Brownwood would be half full after 6 years! You residents of Fenny, don't think about getting a town square anytime soon!
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Old 03-21-2018, 03:34 PM
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And what were the future plans when Brownwood opened in the fall of 2012? Of course, that Brownwood would be half full after 6 years! You residents of Fenny, don't think about getting a town square anytime soon!
I don't believe Fenney will have a square but Southern Oaks will at some point in time. 26,000 homes is a lot, when this is half built out down here Brownwood will be doing well and as they get near to the complete build out of what is already known, there will be another square of sorts but who knows how much more they'll build after these 26,000. heck there could be 2 more squares several years down the road. It's a lot of fun watching this area grow on a daily basis, that is one thing you can't see anywhere else in TV.
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And what were the future plans when Brownwood opened in the fall of 2012? Of course, that Brownwood would be half full after 6 years! You residents of Fenny, don't think about getting a town square anytime soon!
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....more shade, organic or artificial

I'm trying to think of a tourist attraction or street where you can walk in the shade in front of stores and restaurants. Does anyone know any?

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How about a food court. The vacant space on the southwest corner of Brownwood Square could be subdivided into individual stalls with various food vendors similar to a mall food court. They could include Chinese, Japanese, pizza, subs, tacos, sandwiches, frozen yogurt, Wendy's, McDonalds or Burger King or some other burger joint, cookie and deserts, Cinnabon, organic salad/fresh fruit bar, etc., etc. They could have 10-12 mini restaurants with tables in the center and outside. I think this would give residents plenty of eating choices and draw more business to the square. It also would lower the closing possibility of one large restaurant. The opposite corner has had at least two restaurants close and now it is vacant. If a single small food place closed in the food court, it would have less impact and would be easier to replace. Plus, lower rents for smaller food places, but possibly more rent for The Villages in total. I think it is a win-win for all.
You are not going to see a McDonalds, Burger King or Wendy’s on a villages owned property. The return on investment isn’t there. The rent in the villages is high and they want a piece of the action
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You are not going to see a McDonalds, Burger King or Wendy’s on a villages owned property. The return on investment isn’t there. The rent in the villages is high and they want a piece of the action
There are at least two McDonald's, two Burger Kings plus at least one each of Wendy's, Arby's, Chick-fil-a, Taco Bell and PDQ fast-food locations on Villages property already.
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You are not going to see a McDonalds, Burger King or Wendy’s on a villages owned property. The return on investment isn’t there. The rent in the villages is high and they want a piece of the action
Where did you get this info?
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Retail space rentals in TV are about the same as in any of the modern malls...open air or closed.

As far as TV getting their cut. A totally misunderstood concept and how it is applied here in TV.

The rents and developer cuts are always the excuse every business that went out of business uses.
Remember the rents and any other expenses are all spelled out and agreed to long before they sign on the line.
So how can there be a complaint about a KNOWN cost to the business.

Way off topic but I have a hard time letting this subject pass without commenting.
Subject for another thread.
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You are not going to see a McDonalds, Burger King or Wendy’s on a villages owned property. The return on investment isn’t there. The rent in the villages is high and they want a piece of the action
Xkeowner is right, you need to get out more!
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Retail space rentals in TV are about the same as in any of the modern malls...open air or closed.

As far as TV getting their cut. A totally misunderstood concept and how it is applied here in TV.

The rents and developer cuts are always the excuse every business that went out of business uses.
Remember the rents and any other expenses are all spelled out and agreed to long before they sign on the line.
So how can there be a complaint about a KNOWN cost to the business.

Way off topic but I have a hard time letting this subject pass without commenting.
Subject for another thread.
Your post is absolutely spot on.

I believed from the "
Rumors " floating around that the Villages got a certain % at xyz break point ....not so. I asked one of the owners of Red Sauce and he filled me in on the truth.

Bottom Line ask the owner.

Footnote: Whatever the establishment is if it's good...everyone wins.

Actually when ya get down to it, it is an agreement between the owner and the occupant so what purpose is served by stirring up unfounded facts.

Basically mind your own business
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I think this is a great idea. I would like to see something similar in LSL. I live north but play all the southern golf courses. There have been many times where I thought it would be great to have a fast food restaurant in LSL for a grab and go.

I would guess the current restaurants would be against this concept. Why would 5 Guys want to compete with a Burger King. Let’s see a $5.00 BK whopper vs a $12.00 Five Guys burger.
With the high rents, you would never see a $5.00 burger. Check out 5 guys monthly rent and you will see why they have to charge higher prices.
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[QUOTE=EnglishJW;1524031]Given the explosion of growth in the southern areas of The Villages, I think there are a number of things we need for Paddock Square and the Brownwood area.

For starters, we should have at least one Market Night.

It would be great to add a water feature of some sort. There is a lake in the middle and a pool with fountains in the north. Both the north and middle have little streams as well. It would be nice to add something in the south (maybe building upon the popularity of Larry).

Of course, we need more retail. Personally, we would love to see more restaurants like a Panera Bread (just like the other two squares), a Bonefish Grill and maybe a Carabbas.

While 44 is gradually showing signs of life, it would be great to have more shopping to eliminate some of the traveling all of us southerners have to do. My wife wants a Michaels (or Joanns or Hobby Lobby or AC Moore). A Trader Joe's and a Costco would be nice.

What would you like to see or add?

Real Simple and inexpensive: A " Hot Dog Stand " 7 days a week ( Nathans ) of course .
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