Does not make any difference They are just as dead either way.

Did you read gomoho's post? It says that deaths, homicides or suicides do not have to be disclosed.
Why would anything as silly as paranormal activity have to be disclosed?

Yup have them in KY too lots of field battles there

Silly?? Wow..Maybe you should have lived in my previous house for a week or so. You wouldn't have thought it was silly.

Although I know this is a generalization, Americans characteristically have such a focus on death. I agree with Salybow (“A death or a suicide does not ‘put a hex’ on a home”) and Graciegirl (“Being born and dying is part of everyones life on earth”). Death is an integral part of life, yet the focus on disclosure seems to make it something abnormal or out of this world. You don’t find this attitude prevalent in much of the rest of the world. Why do we make such a thing about it?

Agreed, paranormal activity that seems to belong to a house (rather than to its occupants) is not a fantasy; it may not be horrific, but it certainly isn't "silly".... I too know of very real experiences of others--real indeed!

When a door would close on it's own, or if the wind blew it, my German grandmother would say...hintergiest or poltergeist. I only know that geist means ghost. What does the other part mean and tell us about your spooked house too, Gocubsgo.

I don't want to believe in the paranormal and I haven't had anything paranormal happen to me so I am a bit of a sceptic.

My mother died when I was born and when I was a little girl I would pray that she came and tell me that she loved me, but she never did.

Wow. Is this getting personal and scary?

I'm still trying to figure out the "grisly suicide" story. I thought I knew, but the one I thought it was happened more than two years ago.

I believe in paranormal activity, have experienced it. I think it really doesn't have to be in the location of passing, but people who are receptive are more likely to be visited.

You may not know it but, She watches you every day.

Maybe you HAVE had paranormal activity happen to you but because you are a skeptic, you didn't notice it! That was deep, huh?

Maybe it's my Irish ancestry but I have always had paranormal activity around me. This house in Chicago as I said was built on a John Doe cemetery of asylum patients.Our neighbor's had so much activity in their house, they moved out after 4 months. I stuck it out for 2 years and that was long enough. There was a Catholic priest who was new to the area and went around the neighborhood introducing himself. He came to my door and I invited him in. He stepped into the living room, stopped and turned white as the ghost that no doubt was there. he asked if he could come back and bless the house because he sensed something evil in it. After the blessing, the activity actually got worse...banging on closet doors all night, windows and bathroom mirrors breaking, rocking chairs rocking forward and backward HARD but the quilt draped over the back never moving and conversations...you could sit in a room and hear voices all around you like a party was going on. That's only a part of it.
I have a wonderful ghost picture from the Dungeon's in SC that I took last year. If I can figure out how to post it, I will.

I believe some people are more intuitive and sensitive than others due to several factors. I am somewhat of a sceptic, but it's an area of study I'm really interested in more and more as I get older because I don't believe in having a completely closed mind to things I don't yet understand.

Off topic but just a thought
 

The emphasis in the quote above is mine, and of course I have no way of knowing what "factors" DonH57 is considering. I had posted this on another thread and my response to the emphasized comment is below. One can be a skeptic, but as long as one keeps an open mind, then there's a world of potential knowledge to be gained!

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For what it's worth, the best friend of a cousin of mine is a psychic. Her explanation for this is what I emphasized above in part of the quoted comments [some folks are just more in tune with things spiritual or unseen…]. This woman has been called on by her local police to do everything from finding a body to locating evidence and has done things like this time and again. She has also served people in her community in matters relevant to her abilities.

She makes one point about her ability to do this that she says is crucial, and that is that it's a gift that she's been given, and it's her responsibility to use that gift to serve others. Consequently, she absolutely and categorically refuses, EVER, to accept any form of payment or gift or do anything (such as a lecture circuit or a book) that would generate personal income for her, stemming from her using her psychic abilities. She feels that it would be simply wrong to "capitalize" on her psychic abilities and does not agree with those who say that there is benefit to sharing what it's all about for her and be somehow paid for doing so. Her view is to simply use the skills to serve others. I mention this without comment other than to explain that this is simply her point of view....

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This woman helps individuals as well, not just governmental agencies, again refusing ever to consider accepting a gift or payment. She was called to the home of a couple whose young adult child (who still lived at the family home) had committed suicide, seemingly out of the clear blue and with no explanation. The parents were naturally devastated and confused.

She spent a while sitting and chatting with the parents, listening to everything they said which by and large were expressions of feelings rather than anything concrete. She then asked if she could spend some time in the child’s room, just to get a “feel” or “sense” of something—anything at all. After doing so, she came back downstairs to where the parents were sitting and apologetically explained that, unusual as it was, she had sensed nothing and regretfully could offer them no explanation and no solace other than her condolences.

She then added that the only thought or picture that had come to her mind made no sense and seemed completely irrelevant but that she would run it past them. She asked them if a “penguin” would seem to have any meaning to them in relation to their child, explaining that that image kept coming to her. The parents could not connect a penguin with anything, told her that it seemed meaningless to them, and she left.

Several months later the parents finally confronted dealing with the child’s room, packing up clothing, books, music, equipment that they had no wish to keep, and so forth. Suddenly, out of one book, a favorite of the child’s who had spoken about it to the parents in the past as having been very moved by it, fell what turned out to be a suicide note, the contents of which at least offered an explanation for the child’s rejection of life, though sadly nothing more. The book had been published by Random House and was part of the Penguin Library series.

The parents naturally contacted the psychic to tell her; she in turn felt relieved that at least the parents had some degree of answer for these devastated people. And to her, serving others with this unique skill (if that’s even the right word) was ALL that mattered....

In New Jersey the agent is only required to disclose it if directly asked by the buyer. It may be the same in Florida. There is nowhere on a disclosure that says" has someone died in the home." It strictly talks about structural concerns. In most 55+ communities, most buyers do expect there to be deceased owner, in an estate sale. Ususally no one asks how they died.

Very interesting post. Restless spirits who have died by unnatural means might linger........

However, as someone else mentioned and I was going to say myself.....in the "olden days" people were born at home and died at home.

In New England many of these older homes remain........so obviously, there have been a lot of deaths prior to new owners purchasing a home.

As my mom used to say all the time......"It's not the dead that can hurt you, but the living".........she got that from her mom..........

However, as anyone who has watched "Ghost Whisperer" ....there are nice ghosts and not so nice ghosts.

Do tell what happened in your home...........

ditto

More things in heaven and earth, Horatio.......
 

So true......good post.

More things in heaven and Earth, Horatio definition :

A phrase used by the title character in the play Hamlet, by William Shakespeare.

Hamlet suggests that human knowledge is limited:

"THERE ARE MORE THINGS IN HEAVEN AND EARTH, HORATIO, THAN ARE DREAMT OF IN YOUR PHILOSOPHY."

First off I have to say I never intended to plagerize Quixote's quote. I should have said influences instead of factors. Overall I believe our genetic make up, upbringing and enviornment help to develope any abilities we may have. I guess developement is the key. I once read somewhere that children are more prone to have experiences until it's drilled into them that there is no such thing as ghosts, or spirits or the like. It was done to me but I refused to listen.

I think Shakespeare had a dog too.

Didn't he say "Out damned Spot" ". ;)

:1rotfl: Me thinks a little levity is a very good thing.

:bowdown: Good for you! Think with an open mind and you'll be surprised what happens!

Read about the indigo children
 

Indigo children - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Read about the INDIGO CHILDREN

Thank you Senior Citizen. I shall look into that article tommorrow morning.

I am in complete agreement with DonH57. The word makes no difference, whether “factors” or “influences.” (At first I just wasn’t sure what he was getting at.) Wherever it comes from, it’s real for some of us, as in the case of my cousin’s friend who has no idea either but just knows that she can sense things that most people cannot, that it’s a gift from somewhere that she’s been given, and that her responsibility is to use it for the good of others without expectation of reward.

I read the article about indigo children in the Wikipedia link. Here is a piece of that article:

Descriptions of indigo children include:

• the belief that they are empathetic [empathic], curious, strong-willed, independent, and often perceived by friends and family as being strange;
• possess a clear sense of self-definition and purpose;
• exhibit a strong innate sub-conscious spirituality from early childhood (which, however, does not necessarily imply a direct interest in spiritual or religious areas);
• a strong feeling of entitlement, or "deserving to be here."

Other alleged traits include:

• a high intelligence quotient, an inherent intuitive ability; and
• resistance to rigid, control-based paradigms of authority.

According to Tober and Carroll, indigo children may function poorly in conventional schools due to their rejection of rigid authority, being smarter (or more spiritually mature) than their teachers, and a lack of response to guilt-, fear- or manipulation-based discipline.

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Are there any of us who have not known children who fit this description? Did some of us fit this description when we were children? Did any of our own children? Continue to be a skeptic, if that is how you feel, but as DonH suggests, at least keep an open mind!

It looks as though we’ve completely hijacked this thread about real estate disclosure. Maybe this all belongs in a new one….

That's a great idea for a new post.

As a teacher, I've met a few parents who thought their children SHOULDN'T
be redirected. The parents of the children who these children were being mean to thought otherwise.

I haven't met any indigo children. Many of other colors and they were all fun to know and to teach.

I shouldn't be making light of your views, as I have said,I am skeptical....but tomorrow, I may change my mind.

I think this paranormal activity subject deserves a thread of it's own. Particulary that so many folks who I really respect are saying things I have never heard and talking about things I have never experienced.

A priest once told me that he was present at an exorcism and the ring on the subject was removed and passed to him and it burnt a mark on his hand.

That is the only experience that I can relate.

Yes, we've all known children and adults who might fit the description of Indigo children.......however, not all were....nor any, for that matter were autistic or learning disabled..........in fact they were near genius........definitely with extremely high I.Q.'s when tested. Quick learners. Bright, sharp.....intuitive and sensitive.
I might add that these children, the ones I've known anyway.........were all kindhearted and caring........because when you think of it.........anyone who is "sensitive" can also feel others' PAIN.....and others' SADNESS.

Empaths just feel things that others do not........and sense things that others do not.........just as some people are open minded and others are more rigid.

I certainly do not believe anyone who is "sensitive" to things unseen should be exorcised.

Remember what happened in Salem, Massachusetts.....just because a few teenage girls ate tainted bread from tainted rye flour.......by the way, that's a great place to visit for a long weekend........especially around Halloween in October........go down into the dungeon where they were kept. The cells were barely as wide as a typical kitchen pantry......not a walk in pantry.

Often, gifts like precognition and clairvoyance are inherited and passed down through the female side of family line.........not to say males cannot also have the gift.

People who think they do not have any such "gift" should ask themselves, "When I was last with my daughter, etc. and we finished each other's sentences before the other one could end theirs.........."......perhaps you have it also, but just aren't aware. I can finish my daughter's sentences in total.......before she's uttered two words out of her mouth. Explain that.

I've also had premonitions of those who would be "passing over" to the other side.....and within a short period......it's happened. It's not something you turn on or off..........you either have it or you don't have it.

With women, many of us just call it "women's intuition"......nothing spooky at all about that. Glad the men are acknowledging all of these psychic type events. Now , notice....I did not say psycho.

I relate to the thread off track as it is, as I would call myself an "empath" but not an indigo. I have met an indigo in his adulthood, Desai Panache, Indian, now in Naples, FL., an amazing psychic (who "read" my life), thoroughly joyful (annoyed me, really! too happy), follows no rules of how spiritual leaders should behave...a healer who behaved like a Pentecostal hindu playing rock music with lunatic joy. Said to have been recognized by age 7 as a healer by those standing near him. I believe he was born ready by the gift of God.