[Villageswimmer]

Maybe y’all already know, but they are posted on the Property Appraiser’s site now.

[graciegirl]

what is a trim notice in florida - Bing

[CWGUY]

For the vast majority:

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Sumter County Property Appraiser - Joey Hooten - Bushnell, Florida - 352-569-6800 Put in a name or a street name (with the street name don't use a number or St., Ave., Pl., Loop, etc.)

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[tophcfa]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

what is a trim notice in florida - Bing

Thanks Grace, I was wondering what a trim notice was.

[kcrazorbackfan]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

what is a trim notice in florida - Bing

Thank you.

[Goldwingnut]

In case you don't notice, the school taxes have a proposed 13% increase, some of this is coming from the state but most of it is local. This is absolutely outrageous, more so than event he proposed 24% property tax increase. Over 2000 new homes were added to Sumter county last year and the vast majority of them (the homes in The Villages) added a grand total of ZERO students to the school district.

Looking at my tax bill, I paid just over $1200 in state and local school taxes. I have no problem with this, it's like this almost everywhere, everyone pays school taxes even if they have no children in school.

My beef is that 2000 new homes in TV each paying $1200 or more is $2,400,000 more to their budget with very little proportional student population increase county. Adding insult to injury this 13% increase is about a $70 (or more) increase for every home in TV in Sumter County or about $2,500,000 increase. This is more than a $4,900,000 increase in the school budget from just The Villages, there is additional increases from the rest of the homes in the County.

According to the school district website there are approximately 8,200 students in the Sumpter County School District, this equates to an increase of nearly $600 per student. Or if we look at the total school budget of nearly $113,000,000, that is over $13,750 per student, per year.

When I left Memphis Tennessee 12 years ago the Memphis city school system spent an average of $6,200/student annually, and Shelby County school system (the rest of the schools in the county not within the city limits of Memphis) were spending $5,200/student. Even adjusting for inflation I find it difficult to accept the costs here in Sumter County are so high, especially when one considers the poor conditions of the non-charter schools in the county.

I am absolutely for the children getting a first rate educations and for funding that education. But the numbers here just don't work.

I'm not sure who is being cheated more, us the taxpayers or the students of Sumter County.

[EdFNJ]

Well, bottom line for me is at worse I see a total $125 increase if they get what they want and a $100 decrease if it remains the same which it obviously won't. My yearly taxes including bond and all the other "stuff" is equiv to slightly under 2 months of what it used to be up north. Spread that $125 over the 3 years we will have been here at the end of this year and I can't complain. How it is spent, that's another issue. Still can't see why they needed to spend $88mill (or whatever it was) on repaving Morse & BV where they could have done only the sections that were needed which probably would have cost 1/20th of what was spent because most of those roads were pretty good shape except for certain sections.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Education is sort of important. Teachers in the Villages area start out at only $40,875/year, and can't earn more than $59,248/year. Out of that, they have to pay for their own professional re-certifications and continuing education, some of which are yearly. A teacher who has worked over 25 years in Sumter County, will earn $59,248 at the end of this school year.

How many other professions do you know, where you can work a job where you are responsible for the training and safety of thousands of other people, doing several hours every week from home in addition to a 6-hour per day 5-day per week scheduled workweek, sometimes requiring you to travel at your own expense on special field trips, spend your scheduled unpaid vacation time planning the next month's training - and not even hit $60k/year after 25 years of doing it?

Pay them more. Pay more taxes. Be grateful that there are people willing to do this kind of work, and give them more tools to do it successfully. The future leader of this country might be among that 3rd grade classroom of kids. We should strive to make every single child succeed. They won't all succeed. But it's our responsibility to do whatever is necessary to give them the same chance as every other kid in the country.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by Jazuela

Education is sort of important. Teachers in the Villages area start out at only $40,875/year, and can't earn more than $59,248/year. Out of that, they have to pay for their own professional re-certifications and continuing education, some of which are yearly. A teacher who has worked over 25 years in Sumter County, will earn $59,248 at the end of this school year.

How many other professions do you know, where you can work a job where you are responsible for the training and safety of thousands of other people, doing several hours every week from home in addition to a 6-hour per day 5-day per week scheduled workweek, sometimes requiring you to travel at your own expense on special field trips, spend your scheduled unpaid vacation time planning the next month's training - and not even hit $60k/year after 25 years of doing it?

Pay them more. Pay more taxes. Be grateful that there are people willing to do this kind of work, and give them more tools to do it successfully. The future leader of this country might be among that 3rd grade classroom of kids. We should strive to make every single child succeed. They won't all succeed. But it's our responsibility to do whatever is necessary to give them the same chance as every other kid in the country.

How much do they earn where you now live? Disclaimer. I have always voted for school levies.

[skip0358]

I think a lot of that school tax increase is because of all the extra resource officers and security measures being put in because of the school shootings that have occurred.

[Goldwingnut]

Originally Posted by skip0358

I think a lot of that school tax increase is because of all the extra resource officers and security measures being put in because of the school shootings that have occurred.

Actually that's not the case, those increased costs for security and resource officers were rolled into the 24% increase they are proposing for the property tax not the school budget.

There are only 8 schools in the county not including the charter school in The Villages, all of which already have at least part time resource officers assigned.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Gracie, salary range is $41,320 for first-year entry-level minimal education (I believe that's 4-year BS degree plus certification courses) full-time kindergarten and goes up to $98,760 for a teacher with a Master's degree and tenure in the High School.

[EdFNJ]

Originally Posted by Jazuela

Gracie, salary range is $41,320 for first-year entry-level minimal education (I believe that's 4-year BS degree plus certification courses) full-time kindergarten and goes up to $98,760 for a teacher with a Master's degree and tenure in the High School.

Where in NJ are you from? Same as was in our town. My wife was in same school system for ~35 years (unfortunately not as a teacher) and that was almost identical to last contract they negotiated back in 2015 except now new personnel are contributing heavily to medical benefits.

[Martian]

All the teachers wages from around the country are interesting, but have little to do with this area - you might as well quote San Francisco or NYC.

In the Sumter country area, as near as I could find the salaries for teachers range from $29k to $75K.

[Packer Fan]

Originally Posted by Jazuela

Education is sort of important. Teachers in the Villages area start out at only $40,875/year, and can't earn more than $59,248/year. Out of that, they have to pay for their own professional re-certifications and continuing education, some of which are yearly. A teacher who has worked over 25 years in Sumter County, will earn $59,248 at the end of this school year.

How many other professions do you know, where you can work a job where you are responsible for the training and safety of thousands of other people, doing several hours every week from home in addition to a 6-hour per day 5-day per week scheduled workweek, sometimes requiring you to travel at your own expense on special field trips, spend your scheduled unpaid vacation time planning the next month's training - and not even hit $60k/year after 25 years of doing it?

Pay them more. Pay more taxes. Be grateful that there are people willing to do this kind of work, and give them more tools to do it successfully. The future leader of this country might be among that 3rd grade classroom of kids. We should strive to make every single child succeed. They won't all succeed. But it's our responsibility to do whatever is necessary to give them the same chance as every other kid in the country.

Yes - Nurses, Medical Assistants, Phlebotomists. On top of it they don't have 3 months off a year and retire with pensions. I get so sick of Teachers whining about their pay. We don't seem to have trouble getting teachers so the pay is obviously adequate. On top of that the whole "we work at home" stuff may be true for some, but the reality is the school parking lots are sparse when I go to work at 7:30 and EMPTY at 5 PM when I drive past on the way home.