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Advogado 03-12-2021 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by tvbound (Post 1914756)
The developer flexing political muscles?

Obviously.

Two Bills 03-13-2021 04:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 1914751)
Here is a recent article about the two bills. I haven't looked for a link to the actual bills yet

I never wrote that, and I deny anything it says!!:icon_wink:

dewilson58 03-13-2021 05:43 AM

Oh People.
The entertainment never ends.


Take away all of the current impact fee discounts.
The Developer will not care.
The cost will be passed onto new home buyers.
(Won't start for a couple years since land has been plotted & dirt moved on a lot of land)


Once the new fees start, it will amount to about $4mil per year.
$4mil out of a $250,000,000 budget..........there is your potential property tax roll-back.


Don't spend it all in one place.

Professor 03-13-2021 06:14 AM

Correct.

Rodebd1 03-13-2021 06:37 AM

So happy to see the commissioners doing their job and something positive for the people.

Rsenholzi 03-13-2021 06:47 AM

Ridiculous raising of taxes instead of impact fees
 
In the past year our taxes have been raised by 25% and now they are tripling our fire rates yet the developers impact fees remain far lower than any other county in the entire state of Florida. Now a senator from Sumter County is co-sponsoring a bill that will only allow impact fees to go up 3% . They taxes being imposed on us are far greater than 3% and are to cover the new services imposed on us by the developer! Why should they get off with 3% when we are getting jumps of 25% and now tripling the fire rates as a result of what they are doing! We need to fight this and impose the impact fees on the developer much in line with the real costs. The proposed impact fees are over 2 years old. Not one county in the state of Fl pays impact fees even close to the new amount. All the other counties pay triple that amount! We as citizens , need to take a stand before July when the bill for the 3% raise goes into effect. The developer needs to pay their share of the costs and not impose it on the citizens of Sumter County

algi45 03-13-2021 06:54 AM

Miller is okay. It's Estep who's wavering. Search is in the middle.

mydavid 03-13-2021 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by golf2140 (Post 1914734)
I just opened my mail and received a notice that they also was to raise the Fire Protection fee from $125.00 to $360.00 what else are the going to raise?

Someone has to pay to protect all the new multiple level apartment's buildings.

birdiebill 03-13-2021 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Advogado (Post 1914796)
Did it occur to you that the Developer's impact fee is 0% with regard to fire protection?

Did it occur to you that impact fees can not be used to pay for operating costs or for maintenance to existing roads, facilities etc?

I don't know what the fire protection fee pays for on our property tax bill, but I surmise it is for the services we get from the Fire Department and EMT coverage. If the costs of those services go up, as do the costs for most things over time, either the service has to be cut or the fee for the service has to increase. This may be a situation of increase the fee or cut the number of fire stations, personnel, maintenance, wages, insurance. Just look at what is happening to the cost of gasoline and home owners insurance. Wages increase over time. I surmise the maximum cap of the fire fee has been reached as the fee has increased over time. Now the cost of the services exceeds the $124.00 per taxable entity.

Altavia 03-13-2021 07:24 AM

Be careful not to throw the baby out with the bathwater.

Emergency services here are excellent and we need to support our first responders with good equipment and pay.

dewilson58 03-13-2021 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by birdiebill (Post 1914854)
Did it occur to you that impact fees can not be used to pay for operating costs or for maintenance to existing roads, facilities etc?


Nothing occurs to Guacamole.
I want the best trained & equiped, highest paid firefighters & EMS responders in Florida in TV.

Advogado 03-13-2021 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by birdiebill (Post 1914854)
Did it occur to you that impact fees can not be used to pay for operating costs or for maintenance to existing roads, facilities etc?

I don't know what the fire protection fee pays for on our property tax bill, but I surmise it is for the services we get from the Fire Department and EMT coverage. If the costs of those services go up, as do the costs for most things over time, either the service has to be cut or the fee for the service has to increase. This may be a situation of increase the fee or cut the number of fire stations, personnel, maintenance, wages, insurance. Just look at what is happening to the cost of gasoline and home owners insurance. Wages increase over time. I surmise the maximum cap of the fire fee has been reached as the fee has increased over time. Now the cost of the services exceeds the $124.00 per taxable entity.

I know that impact fees can only be used to pay for infrastructure necessitated by the new development, not operating costs. The point is that the Developer's impact fees pay only 40% of the cost of his roads and nothing for the costs of his other infrastructure-- like fire stations, fire trucks, and other fire-fighting equipment. We make up the shortfall through our property taxes and the fire assessment.

Bogie Shooter 03-13-2021 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by algi45 (Post 1914840)
Miller is okay. It's Estep who's wavering. Search is in the middle.

Descriptions from the past.......

Of the Three Stooges!😀

elevatorman 03-13-2021 08:10 AM

The base rate for a firefighter is $11.35 / hour to start. That is roughly $4.00 above todays minimum wage. 60% of Florida voters voted to raise the minimum wage in Florida to $15.00. If a firefighter is to stay at the same $4.00 above rate an increase in Fire Protection Fees will be needed. I don't want a firefighter to be paid minimum wage.

diva1 03-13-2021 08:10 AM

It is a bill in the legislature right now that, if passed, would go into effect July 1.


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