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dewilson58 03-14-2021 06:36 AM
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Originally Posted by perrjojo (Post 1915200)
I’m confused. Some post are referencing impact fees and others are referring to the ad valorem tax. It’s apples and ranges
Logic is not allowed on ToTV.

harleyfarmer 03-14-2021 07:05 AM
EMS. Right on
 
We the small people voted them in and they are representing us. Why should the older houses have to pay for our roads and the new ones also. This place is already way overcrowded

Dantes 03-14-2021 07:16 AM
Opinion they are doing this so we can be like NewYork and that lovable place Portland
Enjoy the ride it’s coming to TV

Aloha1 03-14-2021 08:06 AM
So many NIMBY comments here ( not in my back yard). And a lot of lack of caring about the greater good. More like, "I got mine so shut the door."

Yes, the Troika quickly panicked after the legislature indicated they were passing a tax increase limits bill. After all, since they apparently never intended to do any due diligence on this no need to wait until July. Beware the Law Of Unintended Consequences.

dewilson58 03-14-2021 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Aloha1 (Post 1915167)
As a sage once said: "Never underestimate the ignorance of the American electorate."
One of my favorites.........Sage Dressing. :icon_hungry:

merrymini 03-14-2021 08:34 AM
Vote with hope! Looks like we may have substituted one can of worms with another but the point has been made. Onto the next election. Anyone voted in can be voted out!

diva1 03-14-2021 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Aloha1 (Post 1914730)
Surprised this hasn't already been posted here. The latest move by the "Gang Of Three" to ignore their own decision to table any tax increase until their July meeting and proceed to increase everyone in Sumter County's taxes smacks of a violation of their fiduciary responsibility.

And why is this happening? Because the State legislature has put a halt to these egregious increases as of July 1st. So our new overlords want to enact their increase on June 30th. Way to go. Just ignore any research or learning and proceed to "kill" without due process.
You obviously do not know the history on this issue. The old 'Gang of Five' owned by the Developer put the screws to taxpayers a couple years ago with a 25% property tax increase while simultaneously lowering the Developer's impact fees significantly. Thus the POd people threw out the 3 of them up for reelection last November. Now the Developer wants to take local issues away from the oversight of local people and vest it in the hands of the state of FL where they have more control. If their Bill's are passed they would go into effect July 1. This is not a good thing and our Commissioners need to be proactive before then. The Republicans don't like big government interference...until they do!

diva1 03-14-2021 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Aloha1 (Post 1914730)
Surprised this hasn't already been posted here. The latest move by the "Gang Of Three" to ignore their own decision to table any tax increase until their July meeting and proceed to increase everyone in Sumter County's taxes smacks of a violation of their fiduciary responsibility.

And why is this happening? Because the State legislature has put a halt to these egregious increases as of July 1st. So our new overlords want to enact their increase on June 30th. Way to go. Just ignore any research or learning and proceed to "kill" without due process.
You obviously do not know the history on this issue. The old 'Gang of Five' owned by the Developer put the screws to taxpayers a couple years ago with a 25% property tax increase while simultaneously lowering the Developer's impact fees significantly. Thus the POd people threw out the 3 of them up for reelection last November. Now the Developer wants to take local issues away from the oversight of local people and vest it in the hands of the state of FL where they have more control. If their Bills are passed they would go into effect July 1. This is not a good thing and our Commissioners need to be proactive before then. The Republicans don't like big government interference...until they do!

Taltarzac725 03-14-2021 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by diva1 (Post 1915321)
You obviously do not know the history on this issue. The old 'Gang of Five' owned by the Developer put the screws to taxpayers a couple years ago with a 25% property tax increase while simultaneously lowering the Developer's impact fees significantly. Thus the POd people threw out the 3 of them up for reelection last November. Now the Developer wants to take local issues away from the oversight of local people and vest it in the hands of the state of FL where they have more control. If their Bills are passed they would go into effect July 1. This is not a good thing and our Commissioners need to be proactive before then. The Republicans don't like big government interference...until they do!
That is interesting and sounds accurate.

The Villages is the developers' grand scheme and they should not just avoid keeping things fair after they have made a great deal of money from the venture. Firemen and the like need to be well financed as well as do the roads.

ken.yotz 03-14-2021 09:19 AM
If the impact fee that new buyers would essentially pay is increased, what is the worst that can happen? A reduction in growth! Is that really so bad? Only the Developer is hurt. Impeach Bret Hage!
The fire department wants a blank check to nearly triple rates any time they want. Would you really vote for that?

stan the man 03-14-2021 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by ken.yotz (Post 1915345)
If the impact fee that new buyers would essentially pay is increased, what is the worst that can happen? A reduction in growth! Is that really so bad? Only the Developer is hurt. Impeach Bret Hage!
The fire department wants a blank check to nearly triple rates any time they want. Would you really vote for that?
All firemen and EMTs should be paid a minimum of $30 p/hr, not $11 what a joke First responder training, Hazmat training, Firefighter training, Operating the pumps, Building inspection, and a multitude of other incidents they respond to in the performance of their duties...and they do not get sabbaticals, or great retirement like school teachers, military personal, etc They put their life on the line every day

daddymac1127 03-14-2021 10:54 AM
Forgive me if i don't understand. It is Sumter County who wants to raise the Fire Impact Fee. The Villages has their own Fire Department which seems large enough to handle The Villages property and residents. So why does Sumter County need such a large increase?

newgirl 03-14-2021 11:24 AM
Wages do not raise when you are retired or on social security.
Also, we are charged for rescue privately, ambulance is not covered here as it has been in every other city/ state I have ever lived. There is no reason other then to put more coins in the developers pocket at the expense of those who moved here because the promises made back in the 90's.

Bogie Shooter 03-14-2021 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by newgirl (Post 1915404)
Wages do not raise when you are retired or on social security.
Also, we are charged for rescue privately, ambulance is not covered here as it has been in every other city/ state I have ever lived. There is no reason other then to put more coins in the developers pocket at the expense of those who moved here because the promises made back in the 90's.
Are you saying the Developer should be paying for ambulance service?:confused:

What are the documented promises you mention.

Joe V. 03-14-2021 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by newgirl (Post 1915404)
Wages do not raise when you are retired or on social security.
Also, we are charged for rescue privately, ambulance is not covered here as it has been in every other city/ state I have ever lived. There is no reason other then to put more coins in the developers pocket at the expense of those who moved here because the promises made back in the 90's.
What promises. You have them in writing don't you? Records??


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